I checked out the back story on the Genzler website...very cool! And it sounds like there will be more pedals in the future. Interested to see what's next!
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I checked out the back story on the Genzler website...very cool! And it sounds like there will be more pedals in the future. Interested to see what's next!
That is an awesome story! The best of the best working together. That pedal is very interesting. I will probably get one. Description and demo shows it’s versatility. Well done! Thank you. My BA cab still amazes me every time I hear it can not imagine playing any other cab! I imagine there are more things to come, thanks Jeff.
Joeykun
pronounced ジョーイくん
- Jun 22, 2007
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- Endorsing: LAKLAND SADOWSKY GENZLER DARKGLASS NORDSTRAND TEMPLEBOARD KIRLIN DRSTRINGS ACCESS
I’ll be ordering one. It’ll be absolutely perfect for my all-analog mini board I’m putting together as a backup/alternative to my Helix.
I’m not a pedal guy but this looks like something I’ve always wanted actually. Clever marketing btw with the 4otf drive idea Jeff…I’ve been out of the loop here for awhile and glad I popped in to see this.
(pre) Ordered! - Now gotta get a bigger board....nah, this'll probably kick out at least a few pedals!
My question is really if the 4OTF pedal duplicates the drive pre section of the MG800? Is it redundant if you have an MG800 or, as in my case, really just like a little bit of drive in an otherwise clean sound? I've intentionally steered away from distortion/fuzz/drive in my bass tone except for the little that I dial in on the 800. Is this pedal really aimed at non-Magellan amp owners? Or 350 owners wanting drive? As much as I want to buy at least one of everything Jeff makes, I'm having trouble with this...
--Anxious and unsure in Norcal
--Anxious and unsure in Norcal
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The way I see it - you can replicate a lot more sounds with this as well as craft new ones.
I really like the drive on my Magellan and can get pretty close to an SVT esque sound out of it but it does lose a bit of low end when you start to turn up the drive.
I can get a jack bruce sound no problem maybe a Lemmy if I really lean into the drive but I can’t really get a Chris squire so much. The 4OTF should be able to get me there since I can mix in my dry signal and use the low pass on the distortion side. (Also what most studios are doing for that “metal bass” sound)
I really like the drive on my Magellan and can get pretty close to an SVT esque sound out of it but it does lose a bit of low end when you start to turn up the drive.
I can get a jack bruce sound no problem maybe a Lemmy if I really lean into the drive but I can’t really get a Chris squire so much. The 4OTF should be able to get me there since I can mix in my dry signal and use the low pass on the distortion side. (Also what most studios are doing for that “metal bass” sound)
Bloody heck. It’s a great time to be a bass player, that’s all I’m gonna say. So many Genzler options, so little time…
@Jeff Genzler - no worries on the added batting. It works for me…for now. Thank you!
@Jeff Genzler - no worries on the added batting. It works for me…for now. Thank you!
Classy!Bloody heck. It’s a great time to be a bass player, that’s all I’m gonna say. So many Genzler options, so little time…
@Jeff Genzler - no worries on the added batting. It works for me…for now. Thank you!
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Jeff Genzler
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- Feb 9, 2007
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@dwellers ---- Certainly when we designed the 4-OTF-PEDAL we wanted it to be a great compliment to our MAGELLAN 800/350 amps. I actually had some fun running the 4-OTF into the DRIVE channel of the MG-800 for some more aggressive passages, when I needed it. As mentioned before, while you can get a somewhat similar overdrive with the pedal as the MG-800 DRIVE channel, they are different. AND with the HPF/LPF options to shape the overdrive engine on the pedal it does give you even more flexibility than just the MG-800 DRIVE channel. The 4 OTF is also color coordinated with the DRIVE pedal for the MG-800, so you could have both overdrive options. Actually using the new pedal as a CLEAN BOOST only into the DRIVE CHANNEL of the MG-800 had some nice flavors as well. While maybe not quite the BASKIN/ROBBINS of tonal flavors, with different basses and different pedal settings, there is a lot to use as needed in this pedal.
And for what its worth, the Magellan's have always had a very "pedal friendly" input section and this pedal is right at home there.
Thanks Jeff...I appreciate the "color" on the pedal and the way you designed it. I'll take a good Haagen-Daazs palette of quality over quantity any day!
Much to mull over but I'll probably order one soon. Now about that new pedalboard I'll need...
Joeykun
pronounced ジョーイくん
- Jun 22, 2007
- 4,200
- 16,150
- Disclosures
- Endorsing: LAKLAND SADOWSKY GENZLER DARKGLASS NORDSTRAND TEMPLEBOARD KIRLIN DRSTRINGS ACCESS
The Magellan is the most pedal friendly amp I've ever used easily, honestly it ruined trying to play a practice amp with pedals for me because it just can't get anywhere close. Clean boosting the drive channel of the MG800 rules so no doubt the 4OTF will have many many usable options to fool around with.
Side note, I have finally gotten to the point where I'm messing with the amp EQ like @Loring said because the contour and overall soul of the amp is wonderful even flat. Used mine live somewhat recently on a theatre gig and it performed as wonderfully as in the past.
@Joeykun also helped convince me into getting a B7k Ultra v2 which has been a real blast to mess with so far.
Side note, I have finally gotten to the point where I'm messing with the amp EQ like @Loring said because the contour and overall soul of the amp is wonderful even flat. Used mine live somewhat recently on a theatre gig and it performed as wonderfully as in the past.
@Joeykun also helped convince me into getting a B7k Ultra v2 which has been a real blast to mess with so far.
Joeykun
pronounced ジョーイくん
- Jun 22, 2007
- 4,200
- 16,150
- Disclosures
- Endorsing: LAKLAND SADOWSKY GENZLER DARKGLASS NORDSTRAND TEMPLEBOARD KIRLIN DRSTRINGS ACCESS
Another great practice tonight with my rehearsal rig. My Sadowsky & Magellan 800 into the amazing BA15-3 SLT! Drive channel with A contour. It’s about as cool as the Genzler T-shirt! 
I used my new MG350/BA10-2 combo on its first gig last night with exceptional results and I have some comments comparing it to my MG350/MG12T-V.
I used it in a venue where I've used my MG350/MG12T-V about 10 or 12 times over the last three months so I'm familiar with the stage and the room.
Some details:
The venue is a restaurant/lounge/bar/dance floor, capacity maybe 75 people.
The same band, with a light touch drummer, 2 electric guitars using small combo amps, and three voices through the PA (no instruments).
The same bass, a 4-string active Fender Jazz, no cut/boost on the bass, pickup blend centered.
The same settings on the MG350, EQ at 12 noon, contour off.
The same spot on the stage, off the floor at about the same height (about 20 inches).
The MG12T-V is definitely fuller, a bigger sound, especially on the E string. The notes are "softer" or more diffuse, maybe with a slight bit of bloom in a good way. Although I'm sure there's more volume potential than the BA10-2, I can't comment since I was nowhere the limits of either combo. None of this is a surprise based on previous comments and reviews.
I took both BA10-2s to the gig but never hooked up the second one. The BA10-2 is very punchy (which I define as strong upper bass / lower mid with a quick attack like a punch in the chest). The note definition is better than the MG12T-V to my ear. And the dispersion is something to behold. The band mates commented that they could hear me better. I don't know how real speaker break-in is, but the BA10-2 went from the shipping box to the gig. I didn't try boosting the bass to see if it could give me a bit more low end; I'll try that next time.
I have to say I prefer the sound of the BA10-2. I think it has more low end to offer than its first gig after a bit of EQ, and it's just so smooth, punchy and clear. If the BA10-2 didn't exist, I'd be completely happy with the MG12T-V. In fact I can't see selling the MG12T-V, it's jut another flavor of great.
With either cabinet, I'm still incredibly impressed with the MG350. The tone is perfect for me with no EQ needed, and it has power to spare.
Of course all this is just to my ears, so other opinions might differ.
I forgot to take a picture at the gig, but I did take a picture at home of my growing Genzler family...
I used it in a venue where I've used my MG350/MG12T-V about 10 or 12 times over the last three months so I'm familiar with the stage and the room.
Some details:
The venue is a restaurant/lounge/bar/dance floor, capacity maybe 75 people.
The same band, with a light touch drummer, 2 electric guitars using small combo amps, and three voices through the PA (no instruments).
The same bass, a 4-string active Fender Jazz, no cut/boost on the bass, pickup blend centered.
The same settings on the MG350, EQ at 12 noon, contour off.
The same spot on the stage, off the floor at about the same height (about 20 inches).
The MG12T-V is definitely fuller, a bigger sound, especially on the E string. The notes are "softer" or more diffuse, maybe with a slight bit of bloom in a good way. Although I'm sure there's more volume potential than the BA10-2, I can't comment since I was nowhere the limits of either combo. None of this is a surprise based on previous comments and reviews.
I took both BA10-2s to the gig but never hooked up the second one. The BA10-2 is very punchy (which I define as strong upper bass / lower mid with a quick attack like a punch in the chest). The note definition is better than the MG12T-V to my ear. And the dispersion is something to behold. The band mates commented that they could hear me better. I don't know how real speaker break-in is, but the BA10-2 went from the shipping box to the gig. I didn't try boosting the bass to see if it could give me a bit more low end; I'll try that next time.
I have to say I prefer the sound of the BA10-2. I think it has more low end to offer than its first gig after a bit of EQ, and it's just so smooth, punchy and clear. If the BA10-2 didn't exist, I'd be completely happy with the MG12T-V. In fact I can't see selling the MG12T-V, it's jut another flavor of great.
With either cabinet, I'm still incredibly impressed with the MG350. The tone is perfect for me with no EQ needed, and it has power to spare.
Of course all this is just to my ears, so other opinions might differ.
I forgot to take a picture at the gig, but I did take a picture at home of my growing Genzler family...
