Genzler Amplification Club

[RColie]

Great UBER options! Question for you or others who have the UBER 210 - do you ever use it on its side for a vertical approach? Would there be any concerns with doing so?

While I haven't used an UBER 210, conventional wisdom says that drivers in a vertical orientation yield better horizontal dispersion and get the top speaker closer to your ears. I would think this is a good option for the UBER 210 and I can't imagine any issues with it.

 

[RColie]

About the quality. I have owned my 350 combo now for almost 3 years and stack it on one or two other BA 10-2's. Potent, awesome sounding mini-rig. I purchased the 350 combo used. So it had typical wear when I received it. That combined with my schlepping it to gigs and mostly just grabbing it by the handle instead of utilizing the carry bag, it has obtained visible signs of wear over time. The metal corners are scraped up and on the tolex (?) type covering there are scuffs and even white paint transfers from lugging it up and down from the 100 year old narrow basement stairway. It looks like it has been used and well, it has. So I yanked off the grill, the amp, the speakon cable and wiped everything down with a vinyl cleaner type cloth. Wiped out all the accumulated dust behind grill and then wiped everything down with a vinyl protectant. Then I took a black sharpee to all the scrapes, white paint transfers, and even the metal corners and then wiped everything down again. While not flawless, it looks brand new! Not only do these product sound fantastic day in and out, and outperform their perceived stature, the fit and finish holds up to the purpose that they were intended for. Great stuff Mr. Genzler. Thanks
Cannot wait for my 4 on the floor!!

I've been using the 350 combo with an extra BA10-2 in a number of venues with great success. I just picked up another BA10-2 so I now have three for larger outdoor gigs. I'm curious if you or anyone else has gigged a stack of three BA10-2s. I stacked them in my house and while they seem pretty stable it looks a little scary to me. Interested in any feedback on the stability of the three BA10-2s stacked.

Thanks!

Bob

 

[erhoth]

Never had any issues with the 3 stack. Never put it to the test on any kind of bouncy make-shift stage either. Love being able to hear everything clearly with combo

 

[agedhorse]

While I haven't used an UBER 210, conventional wisdom says that drivers in a vertical orientation yield better horizontal dispersion and get the top speaker closer to your ears. I would think this is a good option for the UBER 210 and I can't imagine any issues with it.

Vertical stacking of drivers have almost no effect on horizontal dispersion but does narrow the vertical pattern some depending on frequency. It also changes the interference pattern as well as the size, shape and location of the resultant lobes that occur with any combination of point type sources (ie. the drivers)

 

[erhoth]

stacked up high on the other two cabs. Sounds fantastic. If the stage is hinky or bouncy, then just stack two with one off to the side.

 

[Basselink]

Vertical stacking of drivers have almost no effect on horizontal dispersion but does narrow the vertical pattern some depending on frequency. It also changes the interference pattern as well as the size, shape and location of the resultant lobes that occur with any combination of point type sources (ie. the drivers)

Thanks - am I reading this correctly that putting the UBER 210 on its side/vertical may yield something less than optimal sound (since it wasn't designed for that orientation) but there's no other harm in doing so?

 

[Jeff Genzler]

About the quality. I have owned my 350 combo now for almost 3 years and stack it on one or two other BA 10-2's. Potent, awesome sounding mini-rig. I purchased the 350 combo used. So it had typical wear when I received it. That combined with my schlepping it to gigs and mostly just grabbing it by the handle instead of utilizing the carry bag, it has obtained visible signs of wear over time. The metal corners are scraped up and on the tolex (?) type covering there are scuffs and even white paint transfers from lugging it up and down from the 100 year old narrow basement stairway. It looks like it has been used and well, it has. So I yanked off the grill, the amp, the speakon cable and wiped everything down with a vinyl cleaner type cloth. Wiped out all the accumulated dust behind grill and then wiped everything down with a vinyl protectant. Then I took a black sharpee to all the scrapes, white paint transfers, and even the metal corners and then wiped everything down again. While not flawless, it looks brand new! Not only do these product sound fantastic day in and out, and outperform their perceived stature, the fit and finish holds up to the purpose that they were intended for. Great stuff Mr. Genzler. Thanks
Cannot wait for my 4 on the floor!!

Hello @erhoth --- thank you for this. This is a great post as it really provides context for users on how their gear may fair over the years. We're always excited for the new gear we get but nice to see that even through the bumps and bruises of relying on "working gear" the products quality can still shine through. This is very helpful to a manufacturer, so thank you for this post.
As for 4 ON THE FLOOR pedals, new stock is on the way to our warehouse for shipments later next week and all through-out September.
Much appreciated.

 

[RColie]

Vertical stacking of drivers have almost no effect on horizontal dispersion but does narrow the vertical pattern some depending on frequency. It also changes the interference pattern as well as the size, shape and location of the resultant lobes that occur with any combination of point type sources (ie. the drivers)

Thanks for clarifying this. It's often difficult to sort out "conventional TalkBass wisdom" from reality. Your posts are very much appreciated!

 

[agedhorse]

Thanks - am I reading this correctly that putting the UBER 210 on its side/vertical may yield something less than optimal sound (since it wasn't designed for that orientation) but there's no other harm in doing so?

Not necessarily, better or worse. Just a little different.

 

[Joeykun]

Tonight’s rig shot. A 2000 seater in MA. Rig sounds killer in this place!

 

[Holdsg]

fantastic. now, of course, I'm also enjoying the Kronos and Nord p''rn, and a Z-stand on wheels? huh? that' just me. no need to reply.

 

[Michael Vee]

Joey, those theaters you're playing look absolutely terrific. And what a gig you have with FJ!

 

[DrSteve]

I've been using the 350 combo with an extra BA10-2 in a number of venues with great success. I just picked up another BA10-2 so I now have three for larger outdoor gigs. I'm curious if you or anyone else has gigged a stack of three BA10-2s. I stacked them in my house and while they seem pretty stable it looks a little scary to me. Interested in any feedback on the stability of the three BA10-2s stacked.

Thanks!

Bob

I have stacked 3 BA-10s for outdoor gigs and they sound fantastic. Nothing to worry about as far as tilt or vibrations. After all, the head is secured to the top cab with the cradle, so nothing to worry about. Just make sure you don't forget to flip the Ohms switch down to 2.67.

Last 2 outdoor gigs I tried out one BA 10-2 with a BA 12-3 and it was amazing. But I'm thinking of going back to 2 or 3 BA 10-2s. While not as thick sounding, still full, rich and punchy. And easier to transport.

 

[biggredd]

@biggredd --- Thanks for the pic. Wow, that is certainly a great stash of UBER cabs. And that is a great Rack Kit you've got for the Magellan 800 head.
Did you get that from Penn/Elcomm?
And interesting how the old and new products look like they just naturally go together. Who would-a-thunk that.
Nice rigs!!

Hey @jeffgenzler glad you like how my racked Magellan looks. I purchased the rack shelf from Amazon and the vented faceplate from Newark (formerly MCM Electronics). I had to cut out the faceplate.

 

[Joeykun]

Outdoors tonight. Looking forward to this one. Weather is a perfect 69°!!

 

[PaulS]

Don’t forget your bug spray!

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Outdoors tonight. Looking forward to this one. Weather is a perfect 69°!!
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I love the look of a nice clean board!

 

[RColie]

I have stacked 3 BA-10s for outdoor gigs and they sound fantastic. Nothing to worry about as far as tilt or vibrations. After all, the head is secured to the top cab with the cradle, so nothing to worry about. Just make sure you don't forget to flip the Ohms switch down to 2.67.

Last 2 outdoor gigs I tried out one BA 10-2 with a BA 12-3 and it was amazing. But I'm thinking of going back to 2 or 3 BA 10-2s. While not as thick sounding, still full, rich and punchy. And easier to transport.

Thanks for your reply! No worries about the head falling off, it's definitely secure. That top cabinet looks like it could slip right off backwards, but I guess the rubber feet grip well enough. The next outdoor gig I'll give it a try.

Interesting that you tried the BA12-3 with the BA10-2. I ordered a 12-3 a few days ago and will have it for next weekend's gigs. I'm sure it will add more low end, but it's a bigger cab with more footprint. I think it will be worth the extra effort (which really isn't that much). I'll report back after next weekend.

Bob

 

[jjk2007]

Downbeat coming up.

 

[SteveC]

Bug spray and towel. Things I frequently forget.