Genzler Amplification Club

[Tdub77]

Ok, back in my day I rarely would consider placing a cab up off the floor. Of course this would completely depend upon the stage structure.
Now that you have 2 cabs I think a 12" riser would be plenty. If your able to get a few feet in front of the cabs that should be a great sweet spot.

Good to know thanks I'll update with results

 

[bebass]

So you do lift your stack up off the floor a bit. Are there any disadvantages to lifting the stack up? Worse bass response etc? Maybe @Jeff Genzler would comment. I currently have my single off the ground about 2 feet. Will I be ok stacking up from there with the second one or should I be a bit closer to the floor?

I most always de-couple (mostly) MECHANICALLY from the floor. But this still allows ACOUSTIC coupling. I do it for two reasons; help eliminate stage rumble and primary reason is ergonomics - it makes it very simple to position my cabs. I use the small dollys from Harbor Freight. Inexpensive and work well for me. In fact I have these on all 20 of my store's bass setups as well as use them on stage. Beats heck out of lifting to re-position. If I use a single cab and need to get the amp/cab up to where I can use it/hear it I use a simple amp stand that points the cab toward my ears. With two cabs the dolly works for me.

 

[Tdub77]

I most always de-couple (mostly) MECHANICALLY from the floor. But this still allows ACOUSTIC coupling. I do it for two reasons; help eliminate stage rumble and primary reason is ergonomics - it makes it very simple to position my cabs. I use the small dollys from Harbor Freight. Inexpensive and work well for me. In fact I have these on all 20 of my store's bass setups as well as use them on stage. Beats heck out of lifting to re-position. If I use a single cab and need to get the amp/cab up to where I can use it/hear it I use a simple amp stand that points the cab toward my ears. With two cabs the dolly works for me.

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[bebass]

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They had 3 different sizes and I have all 3, For the cabs it will work with, I like the poly one best. But if I recall, without going to my store and looking, I believe the 12 bass array fit on the larger wooden one better due to foot spacing. It was very close , and if I took the trouble to grind just 1/4-1/2 inch from the poly one, the 12 bass array would fit (with feet on each front and back side and cab all the way down). It has to do with the feet being on the cab. With the feet on the front and the back ones off, it would add a slight tilt but stability may be a factor. A rubber padding on top of that would further isolate the cab (not sure if it would make enough a difference as to actually do that, but possibly yes), Otherwise, using the wooden one, the feet are on the wood with the cab off it, so this may be better mechanical isolation, and the solution I use for the 12-3. I will try to get a pic this afternoon.

 

[S-Bigbottom]

I am finally close enough to getting a Magellan 800, now I fell comfortable asking the one question I have.
Will the carry bag front pocket squeeze in a Boss TU-3 tuner pedal? 2-3/8 inches high.

I have a laptop messenger bag that has a padded place that the amp will fit in, but it is loaded with cables and accessories (over packer). Coming from a rack rig, I would love to have the smaller Genzler bag for the weekly Church quick grab, as a few cables and my tuner pedal is all I need. Tuner will not fit in my SKB Bass hard case.

 

[noahw1]

I am finally close enough to getting a Magellan 800, now I fell comfortable asking the one question I have.
Will the carry bag front pocket squeeze in a Boss TU-3 tuner pedal? 2-3/8 inches high.

I have a laptop messenger bag that has a padded place that the amp will fit in, but it is loaded with cables and accessories (over packer). Coming from a rack rig, I would love to have the smaller Genzler bag for the weekly Church quick grab, as a few cables and my tuner pedal is all I need. Tuner will not fit in my SKB Bass hard case.

The carry bag will definitely hold the pedal. I always have my 6' speaker cable, a short extension cord and the instrument power cord in mine and can fit in a pedal (or two), if needed.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

The carry bag will definitely hold the pedal. I always have my 6' speaker cable, a short extension cord and the instrument power cord in mine and can fit in a pedal (or two), if needed.

Yes, I also confirm this. Thank you for considering our Magellan 800.

 

[S-Bigbottom]

Thank you noahw1 and Mr. Genzler.
The matching carrying case it is. drool

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Couldn't help myself. Just paid for a MG800 that popped up here used for a nice price.

I was either going to grab a poweramp (Crown, Crest, etc etc) for use as my "big outdoor" rig, or a MG800 (if the price was right). Well...The price was right!

I had a MG800 and a Subway 800 together for a hot minute. Both are truly great amps. I feet the MG800 has a slight edge over the Subway amps in terms of clean headroom and/or being used as a straight poweramp. I get my "character" from my Noble and small pedal board.

Anyway...Just kinda excited.

Sorry I didn't buy new @Jeff Genzler, but I do feel there's another BA cab in my future! LOVE the little 10-2. Man, that thing has broken in and is kickin' some ass. I've tried a bunch of small/light cabs and the 10-2 is the most bestest of the bunch.

 

[bebass]

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They had 3 different sizes and I have all 3, For the cabs it will work with, I like the poly one best. But if I recall, without going to my store and looking, I believe the 12 bass array fit on the larger wooden one better due to foot spacing. It was very close , and if I took the trouble to grind just 1/4-1/2 inch from the poly one, the 12 bass array would fit (with feet on each front and back side and cab all the way down). It has to do with the feet being on the cab. With the feet on the front and the back ones off, it would add a slight tilt but stability may be a factor. A rubber padding on top of that would further isolate the cab (not sure if it would make enough a difference as to actually do that, but possibly yes), Otherwise, using the wooden one, the feet are on the wood with the cab off it, so this may be better mechanical isolation, and the solution I use for the 12-3. I will try to get a pic this afternoon.

Well, didn't get a good pic of the dolly - the one I am using is the larger one. Our recording system had problems so we used the big stage as a practice for next Saturday's gig. I am playing my new NG2. Even though this is a fairly large venue, after the first 3 songs the guitar player and I both had to turn down, so I ended up just unplugging one of the cabs. ONE BA12-3 easily carried the mid-sized amphitheater and I barely had the volume turned up.

 

[Tdub77]

Well, didn't get a good pic of the dolly - the one I am using is the larger one. Our recording system had problems so we used the big stage as a practice for next Saturday's gig. I am playing my new NG2. Even though this is a fairly large venue, after the first 3 songs the guitar player and I both had to turn down, so I ended up just unplugging one of the cabs. ONE BA12-3 easily carried the mid-sized amphitheater and I barely had the volume turned up.
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So that's the 30x18 wood one?

 

[cultrvultr]

Just got my MG-350/10-2 combo. After using the Shuttle 3.0-8T combo for many years, I'm so happy to hear the evolution in tone. Its great to hear these two rigs side by side. You can hear how much clearer the MG and Array are compared to the somewhat boxy tone of the shuttle 8T speaker.

The amp is much nicer too. Feels great and easy to dial-in a good sound really quickly. I usually hate contour controls, but this one is different. A little bit of Contour A had me smiling with my Rob Allen fretless. Contour B made my jazz bass sit right in the mix. I've played lots of amps and never had a contour control that I used for more than a few seconds. I didn't really feel the need to eq once I set the contour where I wanted it.

This has to be the best designed rig for your everyday bass player. It has everything you need and nothing you don't. Will easily keep up with my drummer.

 

[bebass]

So that's the 30x18 wood one?

Sorry, I haven't been on the board much the last few days. Yes, I believe so. On many cabs the smaller ones work, but the feet of the cab being on the board do help with removing vibrational coupling. and the extra space on the dolly is great for a power distribution switch. In the pic below you can just see the wood of the dolly and the space above the stage. This still allows plenty good acoustical coupling. It was funny that one BA12-3 kept up so easily with the two 412 cabs of the guitarists. I have been trying the last 3 months to get them to go with a single 12 each so we could have more vocal gain before feedback and simplify the stage. But ignorance keeps them going, so it is a lost cause. The soundman at this venue backed me up so hopefully these guitar players will think about it. Them, "I have to have a 412 to get my tone" Me, "Nonsense. If that is true then I have to use 412's to get MY TONE" Of course, that said, I have no problems playing through a 312 or a 412 setup , it just simply is not needed.

 

[jlepre]

Question:

I was working with my MG800 last night and needed to switch from 8/4 ohm to 2.67 ohm when I noticed that the switch was already moved over to the 2,67. I have been using this head with my 8 ohm Fearless F112 recently, and was wondering if using the amp in this fashion could have done any damage? I don't hear anything off, but was just curious.

 

[Tdub77]

Sorry, I haven't been on the board much the last few days. Yes, I believe so. On many cabs the smaller ones work, but the feet of the cab being on the board do help with removing vibrational coupling. and the extra space on the dolly is great for a power distribution switch. In the pic below you can just see the wood of the dolly and the space above the stage. This still allows plenty good acoustical coupling. It was funny that one BA12-3 kept up so easily with the two 412 cabs of the guitarists. I have been trying the last 3 months to get them to go with a single 12 each so we could have more vocal gain before feedback and simplify the stage. But ignorance keeps them going, so it is a lost cause. The soundman at this venue backed me up so hopefully these guitar players will think about it. Them, "I have to have a 412 to get my tone" Me, "Nonsense. If that is true then I have to use 412's to get MY TONE" Of course, that said, I have no problems playing through a 312 or a 412 setup , it just simply is not needed.
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Cool I'll go take some measurements. And yeah you could use four 12-3 BA's and two 800's right? Thats a 412 i want to hear!!!

 

[Tdub77]

Sorry, I haven't been on the board much the last few days. Yes, I believe so. On many cabs the smaller ones work, but the feet of the cab being on the board do help with removing vibrational coupling. and the extra space on the dolly is great for a power distribution switch. In the pic below you can just see the wood of the dolly and the space above the stage. This still allows plenty good acoustical coupling. It was funny that one BA12-3 kept up so easily with the two 412 cabs of the guitarists. I have been trying the last 3 months to get them to go with a single 12 each so we could have more vocal gain before feedback and simplify the stage. But ignorance keeps them going, so it is a lost cause. The soundman at this venue backed me up so hopefully these guitar players will think about it. Them, "I have to have a 412 to get my tone" Me, "Nonsense. If that is true then I have to use 412's to get MY TONE" Of course, that said, I have no problems playing through a 312 or a 412 setup , it just simply is not needed.
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Also is that an old Peavey Cirrus I see there? great bass!

 

[bebass]

Cool I'll go take some measurements. And yeah you could use four 12-3 BA's and two 800's right? Thats a 412 i want to hear!!!

Also is that an old Peavey Cirrus I see there? great bass!

I have tried a 312 setup; one with the MG212 plus MG112 and one with three BA12-3 cabs. It IS nice, but overkill for anything I would do.
Yes, I used to live one hr from the Peavey factory. I got my USA Cirrus the year they came out with them. I just love the bass. Although I finally broke down and got a NG2, I still will take the Cirrus to every gig except my smoky bar country gig, where I take a Peavey Millennium AC.

 

[svtb15]

The Cirrus is a Great bass. I saw Duran Duran a few years ago. It may have been the best LIVE bass sound that i have ever seen or heard.. Slotted Perfectly in the mix ..
I was on tour with the pop star debbie gibson in the 80s and 90s and I had a peavey TL5.
It played and sound as good as my other boutique basses of the time.

I have tried a 312 setup; one with the MG212 plus MG112 and one with three BA12-3 cabs. It IS nice, but overkill for anything I would do.
Yes, I used to live one hr from the Peavey factory. I got my USA Cirrus the year they came out with them. I just love the bass. Although I finally broke down and got a NG2, I still will take the Cirrus to every gig except my smoky bar country gig, where I take a Peavey Millennium AC.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Quick hit playing reggae at an elementary school in a cafegymatorium at an elementary school.

The MG800 performed well in a really bad sounding room.

 

[Tdub77]

I have tried a 312 setup; one with the MG212 plus MG112 and one with three BA12-3 cabs. It IS nice, but overkill for anything I would do.
Yes, I used to live one hr from the Peavey factory. I got my USA Cirrus the year they came out with them. I just love the bass. Although I finally broke down and got a NG2, I still will take the Cirrus to every gig except my smoky bar country gig, where I take a Peavey Millennium AC.

Do you have the original pre in that or the milli or something else. My 2000 one is the original and I have been thinking about swapping it for a pope maybe...I've heard the milli pres are great but seem very hard to find