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Genzler Amplification Club
- Thread starter Discount Saint
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- Sep 3, 2006
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In the early 80's I had several Peavey basses and had a special relationship with the company. For SOME reason which I did not question, they handed me off to the Artist relations special tech. Anytime I wanted a new neck, adjustment or ANYTHING I just showed up, unannounced, and was escorted in to a room where the fellow immediately took care of any concern I had. Now THAT was a lesson in how to do business and make lifetime consumers. I know they began re-making the Cirrus as Indonesian (I think) recently, but I sincerely wish they had of re-tooled the USA factory. Not that the new one is bad (I have not tried it) but because of the history of the USA Cirrus. The Genzler equipment matches this bass perfectly for me.
Yes, original pre - I have always loved the sound. IS there something better out there? Possibly, but not enough for me to change it. I also love the Darkglass pre in my NG2 but this Peavey has a special place at my side until I die.
NICE!!! Looks better than mine although exactly like mine. Mine has rode hard put up wet syndrome
Yeah well mine saw several years of closet time I'm ashamed to say, but I've been playing again and am glad to have her. The millennium pre peavey came out with a few years later is supposed to have a bit more push. Sweepable mids also...IDK just what I've heard. People say they can get way more growl out of those pickups.In the early 80's I had several Peavey basses and had a special relationship with the company. For SOME reason which I did not question, they handed me off to the Artist relations special tech. Anytime I wanted a new neck, adjustment or ANYTHING I just showed up, unannounced, and was escorted in to a room where the fellow immediately took care of any concern I had. Now THAT was a lesson in how to do business and make lifetime consumers. I know they began re-making the Cirrus as Indonesian (I think) recently, but I sincerely wish they had of re-tooled the USA factory. Not that the new one is bad (I have not tried it) but because of the history of the USA Cirrus. The Genzler equipment matches this bass perfectly for me.
Yes, original pre - I have always loved the sound. IS there something better out there? Possibly, but not enough for me to change it. I also love the Darkglass pre in my NG2 but this Peavey has a special place at my side until I die.
NICE!!! Looks better than mine although exactly like mine. Mine has rode hard put up wet syndrome
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That should not have caused any kind of damage, but you should find that you have more headroom with your 8-ohm F112 when the switch is set to 4/8 ohm.
Just received my BA-350 combo. It is a thing of beauty! I like the way all the contact points for the cradle are lined with a thin foam to keep from having metal-to-metal contact that might cause rattling. Fit and finish is outstanding, all the parts fit together on the first try, no squeezing or jamming pieces to make them fit, screw holes line up perfectly.
I have a couple of minor questions that aren't explained in the manual - there are two nylon washers for the screws that hold the amp to the cradle. At first I thought they might be meant to keep the screws attached to the cradle if the amp is removed, but that didn't seem to work so I placed them at the base of the screw, against the plastic knob portion (maybe to help keep the screws tight?). Also, when removing the tiny screws in the amp where the cradle screws attach, there were two tiny nylon bushings that popped out... I'm guessing those aren't needed when using the cradle?
The manual states there is a HPF in the input module. Was curious what the cutoff of that is...
I won't get a chance to play the combo till the weekend, can't wait to try it out!
I have a couple of minor questions that aren't explained in the manual - there are two nylon washers for the screws that hold the amp to the cradle. At first I thought they might be meant to keep the screws attached to the cradle if the amp is removed, but that didn't seem to work so I placed them at the base of the screw, against the plastic knob portion (maybe to help keep the screws tight?). Also, when removing the tiny screws in the amp where the cradle screws attach, there were two tiny nylon bushings that popped out... I'm guessing those aren't needed when using the cradle?
The manual states there is a HPF in the input module. Was curious what the cutoff of that is...
I won't get a chance to play the combo till the weekend, can't wait to try it out!
As I understood the circuitry of input and preamp of 800 and 350 version is pretty much the same (except absence of drive channel and the continuance of gain knob on 350 as there is no pad switch), so I would guess the HPF cutoff is "very step filter set around 30 Hz" as on my Magellan 800 head.
Jeff Genzler
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Thank you for your purchase and your initial remarks. We always appreciate the feedback. We will update the instructions for the CRADLE. Just to confirm, yes, the flat plastic washers that come with the CRADLE do slide onto the aluminum (not plastic) thumbscrews so that you don't scratch the outside of the CRADLE when mounting the amp. On the MG-350 amp, we do place screws and a plastic washer into the chassis holes where the CRADLE thumbscrew mounts. When removing these also remove that small plastic washer there. it usually pops right out as you found. And as stated by @Cube Bass, the HPF is the same in MG 350 and MG 800. The "knee" of that circuit is approx 30 Hz and does roll off at a steep 24dB/octave.
I hope this info is helpful. We'll look forward to your comments after you have a chance to gig with your new rig.
thanks @Jeff Genzler and @Cube Bass for the responses!
Would not have thought that those thumbscrews are aluminum - not that they look cheap, just they are so smooth and shiny I figured they were plastic... I guess like everything else about this combo they are built to last!
Would not have thought that those thumbscrews are aluminum - not that they look cheap, just they are so smooth and shiny I figured they were plastic... I guess like everything else about this combo they are built to last!
OOOOOOHHHHH I get to jam my second BA 12-3 tonight for the first time!!!! Can't wait to hear what two can do!!!
Cocktail hour at a wedding. Was supposed to be 2 hours but only ended up being one. Easy peasy lemon squeezey.
I need more gigs where I feel guilty about how easy they were.
The little 10-2 is just fantastic. Sounded just like my upright.
I need more gigs where I feel guilty about how easy they were.
The little 10-2 is just fantastic. Sounded just like my upright.
I posted this question in the 10-2 thread but.......here it is again.....can anyone comment on how the new 10-2 array cab sounds as compared to the Shuttle 10 box. I love the 3-10T combo....the 10-2 box looks (to my untrained eye) to be a bit larger and heavier.......does it get louder or go lower than the Shuttle 10? My guess is that those mid drivers are a significant upgrade from the teeny tiny tweeter in the Shuttle.
The little rig looks quite discrete and unobtrusive; just the thing for such a gig.
Double posting this...............
....can anyone comment on how the new 10-2 array cab sounds as compared to the Shuttle 10 box. I love the 3-10T combo....the 10-2 box looks to be a bit larger and heavier with a slightly higher power handling rating and the same freq response.......it should get louder and may go lower at drummer volume than the Shuttle 10? My guess is that those mid drivers are a significant upgrade from the teeny tiny tweeter in the Shuttle. My 3-10T is fine for stage volume in a "mature" rock setting with a sane drummer.....but if I could have a tad more headroom/ volume comfort it'd be worth it to me.
....can anyone comment on how the new 10-2 array cab sounds as compared to the Shuttle 10 box. I love the 3-10T combo....the 10-2 box looks to be a bit larger and heavier with a slightly higher power handling rating and the same freq response.......it should get louder and may go lower at drummer volume than the Shuttle 10? My guess is that those mid drivers are a significant upgrade from the teeny tiny tweeter in the Shuttle. My 3-10T is fine for stage volume in a "mature" rock setting with a sane drummer.....but if I could have a tad more headroom/ volume comfort it'd be worth it to me.
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From what I've read yes. I asked as I have a Shuttle 3.0-10T and 110 extension cab as my amp and love it. Yet, it is a little mid forward or boxy. Trying to decide between a 350 comno and 800 with 12BA-3 myself.
Really enjoying the B Contour while adding just a little grit from the OD channel.
I wonder about that for myself. I purchased my single 12-3 before the smaller rig was even announced... and the 800 head after the "combo was announced but before either part was available. So, I didn't have to wrestle with the question when it was real, but I wonder now whether the combo would be a better match for my needs. Sometimes I even think of selling my rig and picking up a combo... (but only for a few seconds).
At the risk of being repetitive here, I am really pleased with my rig. Every setting I have played, it has been stellar - two original pop bands, church band, and with a couple of acoustic singer/songwriters, sometimes with percussionists. The DI has been great when using FOH, and in the settings where we didn't have that, it was still more than what I needed. At times when I've played with a provided backline, I have been profoundly disappointed that I didn't have my sound.
So... what makes me wonder? Last week I had a restaurant gig and it would have been nice to have had a bit less footprint on a very tiny stage area and as light as the 800 & 12-3 are, having an even lighter rig that is just a carry in one hand with no brake down would have been nice. You may remember too that I find that I need to get the single 12-3 up on a stand for it to work for me (=more footprint) especially when on a tight stage. The angled 10-2 might eliminate that need. At the least, it would help make things more hearable. I'm 90% sure that the combo would still be enough for all my needs but... there is that 10% lack of sureness. And the bottom end of the 12-3 is wonderful and obviously more hefty than the 10-2.
If I could swing it, I'd love to have both rigs... I'd probably leave one of the rigs at the church (unsure which one) and have the other at home for quick and easy schleps to gigs and for practice, substituting when necessary... but I can't justify that financially at this point in my life. Maybe one of these days I'll pick up one of the 10-2 cabs... it wouldn't quite be as easy a schlep as the combo, but would give me a slightly smaller option and it would be an easier purchase to justify at this point. Right now, my rig does spend most of its time at the church. Home practice is either unamplified or through headphones.
Bottom line, I think I would have been more than satisfied with either rig... except that I would still likely have a bit of GAS for the other one... regardless.
@lomo The answer is yes. The combo is a little bigger than the shuttle 10, but a huge step forward in clarity and depth.
I used the shuttle 3.0-8t more than the 10t, but the new combo is really the next evolution in sound quality. It's a big step up and worth the upgrade.
Let me know if you have any questions about it. I find that it hangs with a sensible drummer (and a small vocal PA) really well.
I used the shuttle 3.0-8t more than the 10t, but the new combo is really the next evolution in sound quality. It's a big step up and worth the upgrade.
Let me know if you have any questions about it. I find that it hangs with a sensible drummer (and a small vocal PA) really well.
I gotta think if you were/are basically happy with the Shuttle that the new 350 - especially with a 2nd BA10-2 would be a killer mini stack. As I have no need for drive, and like my Shuttle, I may have talked myself back into a 350 combo. If I think I need more I'd add another cab for the mini stack.
