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#16,721
Saetia said:
I’d love to check out the Magellan next to the Kinetix. Was able to play a Magellan and I have to say it’s a wonderful sounding amp. Have done some reading and searching but would love to hear some more first hand comparisons.
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I use my Magellan for cover band gigs. My cover band are blues/soul/classic rock.
I use my Kinetix for my Zeppelin tribute gigs, just gives more grit and just says "let's rock" more.
One more polite (but can get gnarly if you want) and one starts more gnarly and goes from there.
that's IME and YMMV
 
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#16,722
I'm really considering getting the Kinetix to replace my MG800.
I just got the MG350 to pair with my MG12-TV (it'll be so convenient with the mounting bracket). I've been down to just 1 amp for so many years now, I thought it would be good to have another (just in case).
The MG800 is closing in on 10 years old, still going strong, but just "maybe" it needs to be replaced.
The Kinetix should pair REALLY nice with the NC212.
 
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Fishface said:
I'm really considering getting the Kinetix to replace my MG800.
I just got the MG350 to pair with my MG12-TV (it'll be so convenient with the mounting bracket). I've been down to just 1 amp for so many years now, I thought it would be good to have another (just in case).
The MG800 is closing in on 10 years old, still going strong, but just "maybe" it needs to be replaced.
The Kinetix should pair REALLY nice with the NC212.
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The MG350 mounted to that cab is such a greta little combo rig. That's what I use when I get to use an amp. Although I bet a Kinetix would sound great thru that cab as well. :) Too bad the Kinetix can't be mounted.
 
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#16,727
In Laconia, NH tonight. 😎
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Now that's its warming up, had the first outdoor show with the magellan 800 and 2x bass array2 1x12s. The rig performed absolutely amazingly. I had tons of clean head room with plenty of room left on the dial and tone was perfect and projected great. The sound man, who had run sound for this group before, even came up during a break and commented to me how great the bass sounded. He had never done that before with my old rig.
 
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#16,732
EricOnTheBass said:
Anyone rocking a Bass Array 210 cabinet vertically? I'm thinking of putting some feet on one end to facilitate this. Does the dispersion change much by having the array horizontal instead of vertical? I'm guessing the array speakers disperse equally in every direction?
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The pattern is wider in the normal horizontal direction and narrower in the vertical direction, so rotating the cabinet 90 degrees will change this.
 
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EricOnTheBass said:
Anyone rocking a Bass Array 210 cabinet vertically? I'm thinking of putting some feet on one end to facilitate this. Does the dispersion change much by having the array horizontal instead of vertical? I'm guessing the array speakers disperse equally in every direction?
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If you want to use it as a personal monitor on stage and don't move from one side of the stage to the other, then it wouldn't make a big difference.
The dispersion would change FROM the default wide horizontal dispersion (from the vertically oriented midrange/hf driver array) To a narrow horizontal dispersion (from the horizontally oriented midrange/hf driver array).

To put it another way, a vertical array of drivers gives wider horizontal dispersion and a horizontal array of drivers gives taller vertical dispersion.

[I haven't been awake very long, so I might have totally screwed all of this up.]
 
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Thanks guys. I didn’t notice any features on the array that looked like wave guides, so I was thinking they’d disperse equally in either direction, but now I know. The band I’m in now has a PA with plenty of low end support, so this is primarily for my own benefit to hear and feel the bass better on stage.

I have a 115 and 210, but for most gigs we do a single cabinet is more than enough. I’m tall and would like a taller rig for when I use a single cab. Maybe a stand or milk crate is the way to go?
 
#16,735
EricOnTheBass said:
Thanks guys. I didn’t notice any features on the array that looked like wave guides, so I was thinking they’d disperse equally in either direction, but now I know. The band I’m in now has a PA with plenty of low end support, so this is primarily for my own benefit to hear and feel the bass better on stage.

I have a 115 and 210, but for most gigs we do a single cabinet is more than enough. I’m tall and would like a taller rig for when I use a single cab. Maybe a stand or milk crate is the way to go?
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The line array principle is independent on the waveguides or flairs.

Waveguides and flairs can improve sensitivity, and can alter the native horizontal/vertical pattern. Taken to extreme, the waveguide can terminate in a slot which then (kind of) acts as a diffraction aperture for very wide patterns.

There are many ways to skin this cat, but they all depend on the basic principle of constructive/destructive interference of vertically placed, close coupled point sources.
 
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EricOnTheBass said:
Thanks guys. I didn’t notice any features on the array that looked like wave guides, so I was thinking they’d disperse equally in either direction, but now I know. The band I’m in now has a PA with plenty of low end support, so this is primarily for my own benefit to hear and feel the bass better on stage.

I have a 115 and 210, but for most gigs we do a single cabinet is more than enough. I’m tall and would like a taller rig for when I use a single cab. Maybe a stand or milk crate is the way to go?
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I used a black towel covered milk crate for many years with a variety of cabinets.

I suggest you try the 210 vertically at a practice initially, the taller dispersion should be enough to get plenty of sound to your ears.

Another benefit of a stand or milk crate (&/or an Auralex type isolation pad) is decoupling your cab on hollow or boomy, resonant stages.
 
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