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Genzler Amplification ! New Genz Benz ?

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1.) Im sorry. I don't have that answer.

2.) in my opinion it is fatter feeling without bloated low end EQ that many talked about. It can do STL900 if you want but it can do MUCH MUCH More..
The notes hang and don't fade thin as i noticed in my STL900 when i really pushed it hard and to the limit. I think it has to do with the newer 700 module.. The MG800 feels that it has more heft to each note when set flat at 12 noon..
Which is LOUDER? I did not A/B them..I just sold my STL900... But the MG800 feels to have more punch ..



jlepre said:
I tried to search this massive thread but couldn't find what I was looking for.

1.) Does the MG800 offer a foot switch, and if so what does it control?
2.) How does it compare to the STM-900.
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The footswitch can switch between the Clean and Drive channel.
The Magellan compared to the Streamliner is less pillowly in the low end and very flexible.
Don't get me wrong, I love my SL 900 and will not depart with it, but the Magellan is kind of like having multiple amps due to the channels, counter and EQ.
So far, I am really liking it, more so than my Mesa subway
 
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svtb15 said:
1.) Im sorry. I don't have that answer.

2.) in my opinion it is fatter feeling without bloated low end EQ that many talked about. It can do STL900 if you want but it can do MUCH MUCH More..
The notes hang and don't fade thin as i noticed in my STL900 when i really pushed it hard and to the limit. I think its teh newer 700 module.. The MG800 feels that it has more heft to each note when set flat at 12 noon..
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Thanks for that information, but I was asking about the comparison with the STM-900 (Streamliner) not the STL-9
 
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.. Subway is nice.. But that Limit light always pops on when i feel like it shouldn't.. . However its a great amp too... IMO I love Mesa too.. But the Magellan has the edge IMO>

mikeluch said:
The footswitch can switch between the Clean and Drive channel.
The Magellan compared to the Streamliner is less pillowly in the low end and very flexible.
Don't get me wrong, I love my SL 900 and will not depart with it, but the Magellan is kind of like having multiple amps due to the channels, counter and EQ.
So far, I am really liking it, more so than my Mesa subway
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It doesn't come with a foot switch, and I don't think there is an official one from Genzler available yet. From the manual available online:
FOOT SWITCH – This 1/4” TS connector is for connecting any single button foot switch to the MAGELLAN 800 and operates the CLEAN and DRIVE channel switching on the front panel. The front panel CHANNEL switch must be in the OUT position for the foot switch to engage. (Foot switch not included.)

Beyond that, I do not know. Sorry.
Jeff is good about answering emails/questions though.
 
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So some saying you can cop some of the STM-900 tone thru the MG800? I sold my STM-900 last summer, shouldn't have. I just bought a lightly used, Gen-2 BF, Big Twin-T and I now I'd like to see what the STM-900 and a few other big watts amps might do with this cab, its an awesome cab. So I've been looking in the classifieds at used STM-900's. But if the MG800 can get close and offer a lot more tone-wise, great, much rather go with a new amp w/warranty anyway.

Also been considering the Subway 800, maybe the PV MM1000 but don't need a lot of the features it offers. So far at home loud volume thru the BF BT-T, I've used my GK MB800, GB12.2, Ashdown Mag300 and Ampeg ri-V4B; V4-B sounds great.

I'm just too lazy to always wanna haul the Ampeg to a small bar gig. I'm even considering trying my long stored away Carvin B1500 thru the new-to-me, BF cab. But again, don't always feel like hauling big heavy amps around. Looking more for a clean, big lows, nice mid-options, light amp. I don't need a lot of distortion in my loud, blues-rock or variety bands.

So I'm watching close here. :whistle: Love all my Genz Benz gear I've owned/still own, so glad to see Jeff's back in the game.
 
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ErnieD said:
So some saying you can cop some of the STM-900 tone thru the MG800? I sold my STM-900 last summer, shouldn't have. I just bought a lightly used, Gen-2 BF, Big Twin-T and I now I'd like to see what the STM-900 and a few other big watts amps might do with this cab, its an awesome cab. So I've been looking in the classifieds at used STM-900's. But if the MG800 can get close and offer a lot more tone-wise, great, much rather go with a new amp w/warranty anyway.

Also been considering the Subway 800, maybe the PV MM1000 but don't need a lot of the features it offers. So far at home loud volume thru the BF BT-T, I've used my GK MB800, GB12.2, Ashdown Mag300 and Ampeg ri-V4B; V4-B sounds great.

I'm just too lazy to always wanna haul the Ampeg to a small bar gig. I'm even considering trying my long stored away Carvin B1500 thru the new-to-me, BF cab. But again, don't always feel like hauling big heavy amps around. Looking more for a clean, big lows, nice mid-options, light amp. I don't need a lot of distortion in my loud, blues-rock or variety bands.

So I'm watching close here. :whistle: Love all my Genz Benz gear I've owned/still own, so glad to see Jeff's back in the game.
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I had a STM 900 and a BF Big Baby T Gen2. I found the STM 900 just too much bottom and couldn't get the mids right with the BBT. I went back to my Shutttle9 with the BBT, and then to a MB800 with that cab. The STM 900 sounded great with the Gen2 BF Midget T
 
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mikeluch said:
The footswitch can switch between the Clean and Drive channel.
The Magellan compared to the Streamliner is less pillowly in the low end and very flexible.
Don't get me wrong, I love my SL 900 and will not depart with it, but the Magellan is kind of like having multiple amps due to the channels, counter and EQ.
So far, I am really liking it, more so than my Mesa subway
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This is the first thread I’ve seen with a comparison between the two amps.
Any other info you can share about the differences between the two would be very helpful.
For example, what things does one amp do better than the other?
 
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jlepre said:
I tried to search this massive thread but couldn't find what I was looking for.

1.) Does the MG800 offer a foot switch, and if so what does it control?
2.) How does it compare to the STM-900.
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Yes, the foot switch changes channels only and can be used with any simple single button latching footswitch.

Since there have been a lot of questions about comparisons to past products, I wanted to provide some additional background info in response to your question. The Streamliner still is a completely different animal than the Magellan 800, based upon its all tube preamp. When Scott Andres and I were working side-by-side on the Streamliner, we wanted to deliver an extremely musical amplifier design in a more strait forward format than the Shuttles.
With the Magellan 800 we feel we've "bridged the gap" in the heft and weight of the notes that the Streamliner provided, but without the more aggressive low end that some have found with that amp.
As well the detail of the mids and highs are substantially different in the MG-800. With the MG-800 we have completely redesigned the EQ network (although it might look familiar) to the extent that there is far less interactivity between LF, Mids and HF. HF Corner filter of the MG-800 is between where it was on a Shuttle or Streamliner.
Like many have said, there are parts of the Streamliner response your probably going to find in the MG-800 but overall it comes about in a completely different way with a different musicality, detail and versatility.
Funny...I've heard (wish I could give exact credit) that the new nickname for the Magellan 800 is "The Extremeliner".

I hope this helps.
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
Yes, the foot switch changes channels only and can be used with any simple single button latching footswitch.

Since there have been a lot of questions about comparisons to past products, I wanted to provide some additional background info in response to your question. The Streamliner still is a completely different animal than the Magellan 800, based upon its all tube preamp. When Scott Andres and I were working side-by-side on the Streamliner, we wanted to deliver an extremely musical amplifier design in a more strait forward format than the Shuttles.
With the Magellan 800 we feel we've "bridged the gap" in the heft and weight of the notes that the Streamliner provided, but without the more aggressive low end that some have found with that amp.
As well the detail of the mids and highs are substantially different in the MG-800. With the MG-800 we have completely redesigned the EQ network (although it might look familiar) to the extent that there is far less interactivity between LF, Mids and HF. HF Corner filter of the MG-800 is between where it was on a Shuttle or Streamliner.
Like many have said, there are parts of the Streamliner response your probably going to find in the MG-800 but overall it comes about in a completely different way with a different musicality, detail and versatility.
Funny...I've heard (wish I could give exact credit) that the new nickname for the Magellan 800 is "The Extremeliner".

I hope this helps.
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Thanks Jeff,

I have been out of the loop on any new amps for a while, and it's great to see you back in the game. I love my STM-900 and I get tons of compliments on my tone. I may need to look into this new EXTREMEliner.. :)
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
Yes, the foot switch changes channels only and can be used with any simple single button latching footswitch.

Since there have been a lot of questions about comparisons to past products, I wanted to provide some additional background info in response to your question. The Streamliner still is a completely different animal than the Magellan 800, based upon its all tube preamp. When Scott Andres and I were working side-by-side on the Streamliner, we wanted to deliver an extremely musical amplifier design in a more strait forward format than the Shuttles.
With the Magellan 800 we feel we've "bridged the gap" in the heft and weight of the notes that the Streamliner provided, but without the more aggressive low end that some have found with that amp.
As well the detail of the mids and highs are substantially different in the MG-800. With the MG-800 we have completely redesigned the EQ network (although it might look familiar) to the extent that there is far less interactivity between LF, Mids and HF. HF Corner filter of the MG-800 is between where it was on a Shuttle or Streamliner.
Like many have said, there are parts of the Streamliner response your probably going to find in the MG-800 but overall it comes about in a completely different way with a different musicality, detail and versatility.
Funny...I've heard (wish I could give exact credit) that the new nickname for the Magellan 800 is "The Extremeliner".

I hope this helps.
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It does--thanks Jeff!
 

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