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You'll never be accused of bringing a knife to a gun fight. Rock on!Lol....funny... Okay I admit it's over kill but that's who I am.
You'll never be accused of bringing a knife to a gun fight. Rock on!
Yeah, sure, let's! I am totally down with it! It ain't my money, I don't have to haul it or set it up so get your freak on! All I ask is that you warn me before you fire it up so I make sure not to be traveling near the New Madrid Fault Line......Guess I better think about whether I should be adding 3 more for a 9 stack.... All what the heck lets do it!
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View attachment 801291 View attachment 801256 View attachment 801254 View attachment 801253 View attachment 801252 View attachment 801251 View attachment 801250 View attachment 801249 View attachment 801248 View attachment 801247 Okay guys I've been on TB for over 10 years now and this is probably the first time I've ever posted anything concerning my likes or dislikes for that matter for any gear. I would in fact consider myself more low key. I'm just not one to write a review but I feel it necessary to do so this time. As a little history about myself I've been playing for over 20 years (smooth jazz, contemporary gospel) now and have been financially blessed to have any equipment I've ever dreamed of or wanted no matter what the cost including having well over 100 + instruments custom made. Please don't read into this as me being arrogant or bragging. I feel the need to say this not to brag but so that you know I'm speaking from my heart and not my pockets so speak....let me explain...I honestly feel that most people give you their opinions or reviews on gear depending on their budgets. And when I was younger and first starting to play bass in my teens and twenties I made many mistakes listening to such people say things like "this is the best piece of gear ever, way better than this or that boutique piece of gear that your wanting to buy." And I would purchase the gear they recommended because they were at the time better musicians than me and I respected and looked up to them. Long story short I never really did like the gear I bought... after some growing up I found out years later they were speaking from what they could afford not really from what they would really buy if they had a unlimited budget. I've had many guys discourage me from buying $10,000 guitars and talk me into buying their brand of guitars because it was "cheaper and "better." Don't get me wrong I'm not saying cheaper gear can't keep up with boutique because I've had a few surprises in my career but they were far and few between and for the most part the saying is true.... You get what you pay for! I now only trust 1-2 muscian friends in my circle concerning gear reviews the rest I take with a grain of salt so reviews on TB really hasn't held much weight with me. Therefore I rely mostly on me, myself and I to determine what my ears like and I suggest you do the same. This is Just my opinion take it or leave it. Just want you to know I'm speaking from the heart and have no other motives. That being said, here's my take on things.
After much research on the Genzler, the engineering, the design etc... I decided to order 2 bass array B12-3 cabs. I did see the Magellan 800 amp but immediately thought to myself "another useless lightweight head that can't cut thru anything but it sure is the best looking head I've ever laid eyes on." Lol...Right down sexy. Anyway after looking at a list of vendors on there site I immediately saw a vendor I was fimiliar with and trusted as we've done business over the years with no problems. By the way this is one guy I trust to as far as opinions on gear go because even though he could loss the sale and have sometimes lost the sale he has always been honest with me concerning if gear isn't up to my specs as he knows what I'm looking for. By the way he had nothing but great things to say about the cabs. Ok ring me up. As we are getting ready hang up he asked me if I wanted the head also. I told him that I'm not up for another light weight "class D" amp that's 6 lbs and sounds like it's 6 lbs when I play. After laughing he said I should really try it. I say ok I'll try it but I'll be sending it right back to you if it sucks. He agrees and we hang up. Two days later UPS is at the door and I'm already skeptical because the cabs have no tweeter and the head is a micro. I hook up just the cabs to my lab gruppen power amp and my millennia TD-1. Oh my God! This is the tone I've been looking for absolutely hands down the best 12 I've ever heard. Are you sure there's no tweeter in these cabs. After about a hour I open the box and hook up the head to my Bergantino 410 to see what it can do. I hook everything up begin to play with it and starting thinking yeah another useless micro head...until I fooled around with eq and contour B. Wait a minute this thing is starting to sound good... Now the true test lets turn it up and see what it can do. Then I remember the wife is sleep. I'll try it another time as I'm sure it won't live up to my standards anyhow. Long story short I knew I loved the cabs but deep inside I still believe the head could not do a medium or large gig (even though I read it could on TB). I received the cabs and head on Friday and Saturday was my daughters 18th b-day so I never play with it again until Sunday. I liked what I hear from the cabs but now it was time to test them in the real world after all we've all heard what seemed to be good sounding cabs at home but on the gig it sounds terrible. Sunday morning I get up and begin to gather the gear I would take. I knew the cabs where going but not the head. I was loading up my truck and at the last minute I looked at the Magellan 800 amp and decided to grab it with the thoughts try it first and if it doesn't cut through you still have your other rack.
I get to church hook everything up and Wow I can't believe the tone these 2 cabs and light weight 6 lb micro head is producing. I would consider my church medium size and I had the volume on my bass turned all the way up and the volume on the Magellan at 12:00 for master volume and a 1:00 for the gain. Everything set flat. Contour B set to 1:00. We begin sound check and wowsers I could not believe the sound and neither did my keyboard player or drummer. I'm in bass heaven! After the first song the drummer ask me "is all that sound coming from those cabs and that head" lol, keep in mind I had no PA support. Needless to say I never even thought once of changing out heads. I heard every naunce played. Honesty I really had to clean up my technique a little. I could not believe how every note I played just soared about the mix with ease and our keyboard player is LOUD! The weight of each note could be heard for miles. After church my drummer and keyboard player said "you need to get rid of all that other stuff and keep this" and that's exactly what I'm doing/did. I was a die-hard Bergantino fan (by the way I still have a HD410 for sale if that's your thing). And the bergs still sound good but the bass arrays are just special. Worth every freaking penny! Well the concludes my review and I hope this helps some one at least want to try it for yourself. I personally think afterward you'll be coming to the same conclusion as me and selling your equipment. Lol By the way I'm not in anyway endorsed nor did Jeff ask me to do this. I love great engineering and this is as good as it gets. At least for now until technology out does itself again.lol By the way Monday morning I ordered me some more cabs. I decided to order another Magellan tomorrow. I plan to use them both to power my big stack of B12-3's. I plan to come out of the send of the first amp and into the return of the second. I'm thinking I'll be getting rid of at least one of my current big racks which has some pretty high-end stuff in them. Enough babbling....now for the good stuff pictures....and yes now I am bragging![]()
By the way I just sold my Berg NV412-T and NV610T on TB yesterday which I played with a Crest CA-9 together so that should tell you a little bit about my overkill. I got drowned out by a band once....it will never happen again.
Two Berg NV's with a CA9 is definitely something I can relate to!![]()
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You know, the first thing that struck me as I started scrolling through those rig pics is, "This seems like a really low key kinda guy."
In truth, I very much see a kindred spirit! Thank you so much for taking the time to post and share your thoughts, here. I'd love to hear more from your perspective (on any gear, really!).
Take care, Tom.


We are all truly blessed to be bass players in these times. And thanks to Jeff Genzler for engineering greatness! A good buddy of mine for years would tell me that I needed to try out Genz-Benz but I never got around to it. Wow I can only imagine what I was missing nevertheless, still think I'm better off this time around with Genzler as the wise only become wiser with time.You know, it's just amazing what goes on outside of your own little bubble. When that 9 stack 'wall-o-doom' gets assembled I WANT PICTURES!
I've played two gigs with two NV cabs, a bar and an outdoor one. It was glorious, I just didn't turn up as much.
So according to this post the 12-3 has a extremely respectable 110-120 degree horizontal dispersion. Keep in mind that most of your standard club use PA speakers are 60-90 degrees horizontal (QSC's K/KW's, JBL's PRX, JRX etc,etc; not talking array speakers here). Three stacks of 12-3's fanned out to abate frequency cancellation/reinforcement etc. would have between 330 and 360 degrees horizontal dispersion....perfect for your next gig "in-the-round".I'd like to expand on this. Yes, with a large format woofer (12" or so) the higher the frequency produced the narrower the projection, resulting a beaming effect in the important mid to upper mid frequencies.
With our Bass Array design we allow the 12" woofer to do what it does best --- low frequencies within a vented enclosure design.
The Line Array design of the 4 x 3" Neo mid/high speakers focuses the Vertical dispersion (approx. 80-90 degrees) in favor of a wider horizontal dispersion (approx. 110-120 degrees). This is typical in all pro audio line array designs---where the concept of this model comes from. This is how we get the higher efficiency from these small drivers to match seamlessly with the output of the 12" driver.
Placing the array directly in front of the 12" driver provides the most efficient "single point" of audio output from the cabinet. Think of this as concentric speakers ---a circle within a circle. The entire output of the cabinet feels like it is coming from the exact center of the cabinet. The result is an exceptionally smooth response through-out the cabinet's bandwidth and exceptional horizontal dispersion in a live performance venue.
This array design allows the small 3" cone drivers to do what they do best---mid/ highs from approx. 800 Hz up to 15K Hz.
This is a truly full range loudspeaker system without the use of a conventional compression tweeter, and the harness that can accompany that type of device.
I hope this information is helpful in understanding the design architecture of this new product.
Regards,
Jeff

View attachment 801291 View attachment 801256 View attachment 801254 View attachment 801253 View attachment 801252 View attachment 801251 View attachment 801250 View attachment 801249 View attachment 801248 View attachment 801247 Okay guys I've been on TB for over 10 years now and this is probably the first time I've ever posted anything concerning my likes or dislikes for that matter for any gear. I would in fact consider myself more low key. I'm just not one to write a review but I feel it necessary to do so this time. As a little history about myself I've been playing for over 20 years (smooth jazz, contemporary gospel) now and have been financially blessed to have any equipment I've ever dreamed of or wanted no matter what the cost including having well over 100 + instruments custom made. Please don't read into this as me being arrogant or bragging. I feel the need to say this not to brag but so that you know I'm speaking from my heart and not my pockets so speak....let me explain...I honestly feel that most people give you their opinions or reviews on gear depending on their budgets. And when I was younger and first starting to play bass in my teens and twenties I made many mistakes listening to such people say things like "this is the best piece of gear ever, way better than this or that boutique piece of gear that your wanting to buy." And I would purchase the gear they recommended because they were at the time better musicians than me and I respected and looked up to them. Long story short I never really did like the gear I bought... after some growing up I found out years later they were speaking from what they could afford not really from what they would really buy if they had a unlimited budget. I've had many guys discourage me from buying $10,000 guitars and talk me into buying their brand of guitars because it was "cheaper and "better." Don't get me wrong I'm not saying cheaper gear can't keep up with boutique because I've had a few surprises in my career but they were far and few between and for the most part the saying is true.... You get what you pay for! I now only trust 1-2 muscian friends in my circle concerning gear reviews the rest I take with a grain of salt so reviews on TB really hasn't held much weight with me. Therefore I rely mostly on me, myself and I to determine what my ears like and I suggest you do the same. This is Just my opinion take it or leave it. Just want you to know I'm speaking from the heart and have no other motives. That being said, here's my take on things.
After much research on the Genzler, the engineering, the design etc... I decided to order 2 bass array B12-3 cabs. I did see the Magellan 800 amp but immediately thought to myself "another useless lightweight head that can't cut thru anything but it sure is the best looking head I've ever laid eyes on." Lol...Right down sexy. Anyway after looking at a list of vendors on there site I immediately saw a vendor I was fimiliar with and trusted as we've done business over the years with no problems. By the way this is one guy I trust to as far as opinions on gear go because even though he could loss the sale and have sometimes lost the sale he has always been honest with me concerning if gear isn't up to my specs as he knows what I'm looking for. By the way he had nothing but great things to say about the cabs. Ok ring me up. As we are getting ready hang up he asked me if I wanted the head also. I told him that I'm not up for another light weight "class D" amp that's 6 lbs and sounds like it's 6 lbs when I play. After laughing he said I should really try it. I say ok I'll try it but I'll be sending it right back to you if it sucks. He agrees and we hang up. Two days later UPS is at the door and I'm already skeptical because the cabs have no tweeter and the head is a micro. I hook up just the cabs to my lab gruppen power amp and my millennia TD-1. Oh my God! This is the tone I've been looking for absolutely hands down the best 12 I've ever heard. Are you sure there's no tweeter in these cabs. After about a hour I open the box and hook up the head to my Bergantino 410 to see what it can do. I hook everything up begin to play with it and starting thinking yeah another useless micro head...until I fooled around with eq and contour B. Wait a minute this thing is starting to sound good... Now the true test lets turn it up and see what it can do. Then I remember the wife is sleep. I'll try it another time as I'm sure it won't live up to my standards anyhow. Long story short I knew I loved the cabs but deep inside I still believe the head could not do a medium or large gig (even though I read it could on TB). I received the cabs and head on Friday and Saturday was my daughters 18th b-day so I never play with it again until Sunday. I liked what I hear from the cabs but now it was time to test them in the real world after all we've all heard what seemed to be good sounding cabs at home but on the gig it sounds terrible. Sunday morning I get up and begin to gather the gear I would take. I knew the cabs where going but not the head. I was loading up my truck and at the last minute I looked at the Magellan 800 amp and decided to grab it with the thoughts try it first and if it doesn't cut through you still have your other rack.
I get to church hook everything up and Wow I can't believe the tone these 2 cabs and light weight 6 lb micro head is producing. I would consider my church medium size and I had the volume on my bass turned all the way up and the volume on the Magellan at 12:00 for master volume and a 1:00 for the gain. Everything set flat. Contour B set to 1:00. We begin sound check and wowsers I could not believe the sound and neither did my keyboard player or drummer. I'm in bass heaven! After the first song the drummer ask me "is all that sound coming from those cabs and that head" lol, keep in mind I had no PA support. Needless to say I never even thought once of changing out heads. I heard every naunce played. Honesty I really had to clean up my technique a little. I could not believe how every note I played just soared about the mix with ease and our keyboard player is LOUD! The weight of each note could be heard for miles. After church my drummer and keyboard player said "you need to get rid of all that other stuff and keep this" and that's exactly what I'm doing/did. I was a die-hard Bergantino fan (by the way I still have a HD410 for sale if that's your thing). And the bergs still sound good but the bass arrays are just special. Worth every freaking penny! Well the concludes my review and I hope this helps some one at least want to try it for yourself. I personally think afterward you'll be coming to the same conclusion as me and selling your equipment. Lol By the way I'm not in anyway endorsed nor did Jeff ask me to do this. I love great engineering and this is as good as it gets. At least for now until technology out does itself again.lol By the way Monday morning I ordered me some more cabs. I decided to order another Magellan tomorrow. I plan to use them both to power my big stack of B12-3's. I plan to come out of the send of the first amp and into the return of the second. I'm thinking I'll be getting rid of at least one of my current big racks which has some pretty high-end stuff in them. Enough babbling....now for the good stuff pictures....and yes now I am bragging![]()
Wow...
At first glance, I almost dropped my coffee and choked on my bagel!
That is possibly the best post in the amp section on TB since I've been a member. And I thought four Ubers were overkill!!!
The reviews on Jeff's new lineup just keep getting better and better.
Congrats Nine-and-three-Quarters!!!
You know, it's just amazing what goes on outside of your own little bubble. When that 9 stack 'wall-o-doom' gets assembled I WANT PICTURES!
Wow...
At first glance, I almost dropped my coffee and choked on my bagel!
That is possibly the best post in the amp section on TB since I've been a member. And I thought four Ubers were overkill!!!
The reviews on Jeff's new lineup just keep getting better and better.
Congrats Nine-and-three-Quarters!!!
You win 9-and-3-quarter internets! So much awesomeness in those pics!View attachment 801291 View attachment 801256 View attachment 801254 View attachment 801253 View attachment 801252 View attachment 801251 View attachment 801250 View attachment 801249 View attachment 801248 View attachment 801247 Okay guys I've been on TB for over 10 years now and this is probably the first time I've ever posted anything concerning my likes or dislikes for that matter for any gear. I would in fact consider myself more low key. I'm just not one to write a review but I feel it necessary to do so this time. As a little history about myself I've been playing for over 20 years (smooth jazz, contemporary gospel) now and have been financially blessed to have any equipment I've ever dreamed of or wanted no matter what the cost including having well over 100 + instruments custom made. Please don't read into this as me being arrogant or bragging. I feel the need to say this not to brag but so that you know I'm speaking from my heart and not my pockets so speak....let me explain...I honestly feel that most people give you their opinions or reviews on gear depending on their budgets. And when I was younger and first starting to play bass in my teens and twenties I made many mistakes listening to such people say things like "this is the best piece of gear ever, way better than this or that boutique piece of gear that your wanting to buy." And I would purchase the gear they recommended because they were at the time better musicians than me and I respected and looked up to them. Long story short I never really did like the gear I bought... after some growing up I found out years later they were speaking from what they could afford not really from what they would really buy if they had a unlimited budget. I've had many guys discourage me from buying $10,000 guitars and talk me into buying their brand of guitars because it was "cheaper and "better." Don't get me wrong I'm not saying cheaper gear can't keep up with boutique because I've had a few surprises in my career but they were far and few between and for the most part the saying is true.... You get what you pay for! I now only trust 1-2 muscian friends in my circle concerning gear reviews the rest I take with a grain of salt so reviews on TB really hasn't held much weight with me. Therefore I rely mostly on me, myself and I to determine what my ears like and I suggest you do the same. This is Just my opinion take it or leave it. Just want you to know I'm speaking from the heart and have no other motives. That being said, here's my take on things.
After much research on the Genzler, the engineering, the design etc... I decided to order 2 bass array B12-3 cabs. I did see the Magellan 800 amp but immediately thought to myself "another useless lightweight head that can't cut thru anything but it sure is the best looking head I've ever laid eyes on." Lol...Right down sexy. Anyway after looking at a list of vendors on there site I immediately saw a vendor I was fimiliar with and trusted as we've done business over the years with no problems. By the way this is one guy I trust to as far as opinions on gear go because even though he could lose the sale and have sometimes lost the sale he has always been honest with me concerning if gear isn't up to my specs as he knows what I'm looking for. By the way he had nothing but great things to say about the cabs. Ok ring me up. As we are getting ready to hang up he asked me if I wanted the head also. I told him that I'm not up for another light weight "class D" amp that's 6 lbs and sounds like it's 6 lbs when I play. After laughing he said I should really try it. I say ok I'll try it but I'll be sending it right back to you if it sucks. He agrees and we hang up. Two days later UPS is at the door and I'm already skeptical because the cabs have no tweeter and the head is a micro. I hook up just the cabs to my lab gruppen power amp and my millennia TD-1. Oh my God! This is the tone I've been looking for absolutely hands down the best 12 I've ever heard. Are you sure there's no tweeter in these cabs. After about a hour I open the box and hook up the head to my Bergantino 410 to see what it can do. I hook everything up begin to play with it and starting thinking yeah another useless micro head...until I fooled around with eq and contour B. Wait a minute this thing is starting to sound good... Now the true test lets turn it up and see what it can do. Then I remember the wife is sleep. I'll try it another time as I'm sure it won't live up to my standards anyhow. Long story short I knew I loved the cabs but deep inside I still believe the head could not do a medium or large gig (even though I read it could on TB). I received the cabs and head on Friday and Saturday was my daughters 18th b-day so I never play with it again until Sunday. I liked what I hear from the cabs but now it was time to test them in the real world after all we've all heard what seemed to be good sounding cabs at home but on the gig it sounds terrible. Sunday morning I get up and begin to gather the gear I would take. I knew the cabs where going but not the head. I was loading up my truck and at the last minute I looked at the Magellan 800 amp and decided to grab it with the thoughts try it first and if it doesn't cut through you still have your other rack.
I get to church hook everything up and Wow I can't believe the tone these 2 cabs and light weight 6 lb micro head is producing. I would consider my church medium size and I had the volume on my bass turned all the way up and the volume on the Magellan at 12:00 for master volume and a 1:00 for the gain. Everything set flat. Contour B set to 1:00. We begin sound check and wowsers I could not believe the sound and neither did my keyboard player or drummer. I'm in bass heaven! After the first song the drummer ask me "is all that sound coming from those cabs and that head" lol, keep in mind I had no PA support. Needless to say I never even thought once of changing out heads. I heard every naunce played. Honesty I really had to clean up my technique a little. I could not believe how every note I played just soared about the mix with ease and our keyboard player is LOUD! The weight of each note could be heard for miles. After church my drummer and keyboard player said "you need to get rid of all that other stuff and keep this" and that's exactly what I'm doing/did. I was a die-hard Bergantino fan (by the way I still have a HD410 for sale if that's your thing). And the bergs still sound good but the bass arrays are just special. Worth every freaking penny! Well this concludes my review and I hope this helps some one at least want to try it for yourself. I personally think afterward you'll be coming to the same conclusion as me and selling your equipment. Lol By the way I'm not in anyway endorsed nor did Jeff ask me to do this. I love great engineering and this is as good as it gets. At least for now until technology out does itself again.lol By the way Monday morning I ordered me some more cabs. I decided to order another Magellan tomorrow. I plan to use them both to power my big stack of B12-3's. I plan to come out of the send of the first amp and into the return of the second. I'm thinking I'll be getting rid of at least one of my current big racks which has some pretty high-end stuff in them. Enough babbling....now for the good stuff pictures....and yes now I am bragging![]()
Holy-moly, 9,3/4, serious gear.
No envy though, I'm very happy for you to have that setup, but I'm equally happy with my setup:
LOVED the cabs straight out of the box, and they quickly replaced my 2 EBS 410 Evolution.
Have had the head for a couple of weeks and didn't quite gel with it until last night.
I always felt it was stunningly made, great size and weight (just right), great set of features, plenty of punch, and that Contour B. Played it at home, rehearsal, and a couple of gigs. Yet somehow I wasn't quite happy - it wasn't "my" sound (EBS1v2 pre into Peavey IPR2 3000 DSP), super-clean at any volume. Just could't get that.
But last night it all fell into place, or possibly more correctly my exceptions of "my" sound were slightly modified. With a slight bass and mid boost, and a slight treble roll-of on the Z2, I used the clean channel (gain between 9 and 10 o'clock), Contour B at about the same position, EQ flat, and master at about 11 o'clock. And it just fit, and worked. If anything I was probably a little too loud on stage but there was so much clarity, definition AND punch in each note it wasn't funny. It sat perfectly in the mix (in terms of sonic space, like I said maybe a little too loud). And the DI (pre-EQ) signal was apparently quite spectacular because quite a few folks from the audience commented on the bass sound. So all's well that ends well.
I now have a rig that fits into a small hatchback (rather than a medium-sized wagon), is a single loading on a small trolley rather than at least two trips), and sounds better.
Considering how punchy 2 are I can hardly imagine 6 BA12-3s - enjoy - I know I will.
Regards,
Michael
You win 9-and-3-quarter internets! So much awesomeness in those pics!