It's really good to make sure that you have headroom, so having more watts in an amp than what your cabs are rated at is a good thing. Just be careful not to over power your cabs via the volume so not to pop your cones.
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Genzler - new amp for Jan 2016
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Congratulations Jeff on you brand new product line of amp and cabs! An amazing design on the amp and especially the Bass Array 12-3 cabs! I'm really looking forward to running them thru their paces soon! Cheers!
Looks like the tone is based on actual engineering and design and not some check box that a gimmick "tube" is included.
Sound goes into the pre-amp, signature sound comes out.
Brains don't really care if there's some internal component thrown in for marketing
And now reissue the GBE1200 plz and send a package to germany......thanks!! 
Color me interested too... First off, I love my Streamliner 900. With a passive J-bass, it is just heaven for me. If this amp can get the hair the Streamliner has AND get super clean I may have to start saving up. Today. As in right now.
I read SVTB15's posts in the other thread and I really want to hear this amp. @Jeff Genzler will Bass San Diego be on your dealer list?
I read SVTB15's posts in the other thread and I really want to hear this amp. @Jeff Genzler will Bass San Diego be on your dealer list?
Yes, I am also under the impression there is not a tube, but I was looking for confirmation from someone who actually knows for sure.
Your little editorial isn't really helpful. All amps require serious engineering and design. They don't pop out of thin air.
Of course an amp can sound good without a tube. And of course a tube can affect the tone. Dozens of amp manufacturers, including Genz Benz, wouldn't use them if they had no effect.
Knowing whether a particular amp has a tube included in its design is helpful in understanding the design goals and what it might sound like.
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Sorry if I'd missed this question before. The Magellan 800 is an all solid-state design and does not have a preamp tube.
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Jeff
It means it wouldn't be recommended. It might work but isn't suggested. You can run a 4 and 8 combo and still be playing by the rules
Gotcha!
Ah. The 112+212=312. Soon to be the TB go-to modular cab combo of choice.
Fine with me - we don't need no steenkeeng tubes. Hope to see it at NAMM if not sooner.
Cool, as I regularly use my 8ohm,112+4ohm212 cabs with my GB12.2 or Ampeg V4-B,RI amps at most of my gigs these days. Kinda wish my GK MB800 was 2ohm or 2.67ohm capable.
I was doing the 3x12's way back with my NeoX 112T+212T and my GBE-600, then GBE-750, then Neo-Pak.. Still have that little amp in it's GB bag somewhere around my house.
Getting interested in the Magellan more n more. peace, e.
I was doing the 3x12's way back with my NeoX 112T+212T and my GBE-600, then GBE-750, then Neo-Pak.. Still have that little amp in it's GB bag somewhere around my house.
Getting interested in the Magellan more n more. peace, e.
I'm a bit disappointed. In my mind a modern amp should be capable of operating into a 2Ω load. It's one of the reasons I've stuck with pre/power rigs since the Eighties. Driving two 4Ω loads is natural for me. An 8Ω plus 4Ω (2.67Ω) is less so. Still I do wish Jeff well with this product, I'm certain it's going to be a delight!!
Hopefully, w/o getting too geeky, after reading some of @DukeLeJeune discussing impedance of various drivers, you might check with Andy at Acme and ask about the range of the loading for the cabs you have.I'm a bit disappointed. In my mind a modern amp should be capable of operating into a 2Ω load. It's one of the reasons I've stuck with pre/power rigs since the Eighties. Driving two 4Ω loads is natural for me. An 8Ω plus 4Ω (2.67Ω) is less so. Still I do wish Jeff well with this product, I'm certain it's going to be a delight!!
If they are a real 4 ohm or higher and you don't need to drive them hard (their lack of efficiency is working against you here), you'd probably be safe with the Magellan 800 driving the pair.
EQing & average power levels come into play, so it may be too much zen archery here for you to feel safe.
I'm not recommending anything one way or another.
From what I got from what Duke was saying is that a lot of modern drivers are actually lower in their impedance curve than what you'd think from their rating.
So instead of a 2 ohm load that a bassist thinks he is running, it is actually below 2 ohm.
Recommending the 2.67 ohm minimum is a way of offsetting for those situations and allows safety to have its proper place WRT over-zealous marketing.
One weird thing about TC Electronic's marketing with the RH series: fast & loose with the power ratings, but if you want to drive a 2.67 ohm load, they had the caveat that they had to be TCE's cabs - I'm thinking the above is why they did that.
Glad I could muck up a good thread here ... j/k.
Definitely take the above with with a few pinches of salt.
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Cool looking amp, almost went with a Genzler cab recently and this makes me think how good an all Genzler rig would sound.
One question I have, possibly discussion for another thread though and I only bring it up because I see it clearly in the OPs pics, is why are all headphone jacks on bass amps 1/4"? Seems like most headphones I run into are 1/8" so why do amp manufacturers all put 1/4" jacks on their amps?
One question I have, possibly discussion for another thread though and I only bring it up because I see it clearly in the OPs pics, is why are all headphone jacks on bass amps 1/4"? Seems like most headphones I run into are 1/8" so why do amp manufacturers all put 1/4" jacks on their amps?
They're not all 1/4", but 1/4" should be (according to agedhorse in the Subway thread) "a more robust connector" than 1/8". Makes sense to me. I'd rather deal with an adaptor than have the jack go bad after awhile (not that it necessarily would). And lots of middle-to-higher end cans and almost all audio interfaces for computers are 1/4".
