I'm not a guitarist. I'm an ex saxist. I guess I could see where the positioning would be useful for 'those' guys.
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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"
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We had a trumpet player in H.S. that could read anything and transpose-if necessary-at sight. Couldn't 'fake' his way outta tissue paper. He's made a fine living as a symphony player/teacher.Excuse me. I guess I meant chord charts. You know, lyrics with chord letters over (mostly) the changing word or syllable? Although, I have occasionally found actual tablature to be helpful, I just as often find them to be wrong!
I guess I have a phobia about calling them chord charts 'cause someone will say, "He reads charts!" and hand me sheet music, which I perceive only at a very, very, most basic level. Yeah, OK, I'm not a "real musician" 'cause I can't read musical notation. Well, I run into so many people who do read music to the extent that they can't play a song without it! I'd rather be me.
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My bass playing started out as watching/listening to the piano man in a PDB trio. But, I took piano for about 8 years including 2 years of reading 'lead sheets'. Everything applied.
I find tab useful, but then again, I can't read music....
"No such thing as can't"...I hear you cry....
Well, tell that to the half dozen, or so, teachers that have failed to teach me starting from the age of ten!....
One teacher described me as 'notelexic'.........
However, If I can hear it in my head, I can pretty much play it, with a little help from tab where my head has got it wrong.........
Weird creatures...people....
"Notelexic"-Love it!
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Oh yeah, sure, raised here to read music in a traditional educational system. University music theory is all this writing triads in chord sequences ... played on the piano it sounds like 17th century liturgical music. But does absolutely nothing to teach you how to play with others who know how to play and can't read music for [beans].
Which is where I landed when the cool guys wanted a sax player for their band. "Where's the music?" because I had absolutely no idea what to do without a score.
Really should buff my reading skills. It's a funny thing, we are taught to read in our native language. And even if we don't read or read very little (menus, traffic signs, brand names on everything), we never actually forget how to read. Stop reading music and it takes a while to reboot that skill. What's with that?
The Real Book was when music theory started to make sense to me. One light goes on, then another and another and begin to see inversions blah blah woof woof and I'm still learning ... learning if I have a chart, I can fake it. Real Book, indeed.
Here on Blues Monday we have some guy who plays upside down
Which is where I landed when the cool guys wanted a sax player for their band. "Where's the music?" because I had absolutely no idea what to do without a score.
Really should buff my reading skills. It's a funny thing, we are taught to read in our native language. And even if we don't read or read very little (menus, traffic signs, brand names on everything), we never actually forget how to read. Stop reading music and it takes a while to reboot that skill. What's with that?
The Real Book was when music theory started to make sense to me. One light goes on, then another and another and begin to see inversions blah blah woof woof and I'm still learning ... learning if I have a chart, I can fake it. Real Book, indeed.
Here on Blues Monday we have some guy who plays upside down
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What I find with tabs is the "suggested fingering" may or may not be optimal for me. And I'd just as soon figure out lots of finger sequences for a passage. Something inside me wants to be able to play the same passage as well "the hard way", than in a box pattern.
Blues Monday redux.
In keeping with the Lennon theme of yesterday and with a Jimi Hendrix band twist. Here’s Mitch Mitchell on drums, Keith Richards on bass, Eric Clapton on lead guitar, and John Lennon playing the singing fool.
Yer Blues.
In keeping with the Lennon theme of yesterday and with a Jimi Hendrix band twist. Here’s Mitch Mitchell on drums, Keith Richards on bass, Eric Clapton on lead guitar, and John Lennon playing the singing fool.
Yer Blues.
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Open notes can ring differently. Sometimes the only way to nail a song is to play it as the writer intended. Other times alternates are good enough.
It can also have to do with playing efficiency. Some like to take the harder road as you said.
I lost my ability to read music in real time long ago. Being dyslexic doesn’t help. I learn and memorize or fake my way through it with feeling.
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You play jazz?
You guys are killing me today
and I have to leave for the doctor's in an hour to see what all is indicated. For me, being able to execute a passage "the hard way" means more options depending on where I'm going. I believe it was Phil Lesh who said "if you play an open string, mean it." What I see is folks who play the doghouse are more likely to incorporate open strings in their technique.
Watching a player who came from UB to EB is interesting watching positions vs fingering. I'd be lost on an upright-or a fretless-having to break very old bad habitsYou guys are killing me today
For me, being able to execute a passage "the hard way" means more options depending on where I'm going. I believe it was Phil Lesh who said "if you play an open string, mean it." What I see is folks who play the doghouse are more likely to incorporate open strings in their technique.
Neither does not being dyslexic
I was stumbling along OK in bass clef but wanted to play some melody lines. Started on treble clef. Now my brain gets stuck in one or the other, or someplace in between and I can't read a d@mn thing. It's scary. Probably because I started so late. Still, I can't imagine how piano players do it.
He looks 17 and sounds 57.
I meant to write 'incidental music'
Not the word that I'd have used.....I meant to write 'incidental music'
I went to a H.S. reunion where they had a bunch of old band members playing school songs. I was on tenor, which is what I played in marching band. I was reading the same music I'd played hundreds of times.Why was it wrong? Oops! Treble clef, fool.
Neither does not being dyslexic
I was stumbling along OK in bass clef but wanted to play some melody lines. Started on treble clef. Now my brain gets stuck in one or the other, or someplace in between. It's scary. Probably because I started so late. Still, I can't imagine how piano players do it.
Neither does not being dyslexic
I was stumbling along OK in bass clef but wanted to play some melody lines. Started on treble clef. Now my brain gets stuck in one or the other, or someplace in between and I can't read a d@mn thing. It's scary. Probably because I started so late. Still, I can't imagine how piano players do it.
Piano players finger it out.
"Knowing" what the notes were and playing them were two very different things. I[stunk]on piano.Piano players finger it out.
TrueNot the word that I'd have used.....
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