Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[beans-on-toast]

Very light weight. Don’t need a sherpa for a stand like that. Mine serves as an ipad stand, sometimes a lunch counter.


I just ordered this hand truck, hoping that it works out. They claim 330lb capacity. We’ll see.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/home/storage/hand-trucks/72575-folding-hand-truck

 

[GwenOnBass]

My phone is my metronome and it lives on the music stand connected to an AUX IN. A hand truck is likely in my future as well. Been looking at various iterations of the Magna Cart. Much as I may imagine otherwise, my body informs me I'm no longer 17 years old.

 

[Passinwind]

I know I erred when I didn't buy a Manhasset.

I just copped the buy once, cry once attitude when I signed on in my first working jazz band in the early '00s. Mine has mostly been collecting dust for the last couple of years, but when I recently got the iPad I decided to take a look and see if Manhasset sells a stand adapter. Sure enough, I can lose the sheet metal part completely and their adapter will also make a functional enough video recording tripod out of the rest. Just have to find one in stock now.

The other aspects of setting up for mobile recording have been following the usual mild PITA arc, but this time a lot of it involves adapting to the Apple ecosystem. I could make it work today though, and hopefully in the next week or so the daily deliveries will back off a bit. More of them are for the tube amp build actually, and a fine deep den of cwazy wabbit indulgence that is. I think the guy who made the Link Removed for me gave me a sweet Bro Deal on machining just to get me out of his hair. He said that he's been very busy making stuff for DIY'ers lately, go figure.

 

[GwenOnBass]

That's the thing, the creative community also belongs to the church of Apple. And no mistake, it is a religion. Show them you can do exactly the same task on a different platform just as efficiently and risk great ire. It's just not done.

Long, long time ago in Hattiesburg, Mississippi — not my account, an associate's tale — a client paper bought a handful of Macs for their graphics department. Someone saw the Apple logo on the boxes and delivered them on a refrigerated truck. They were unloaded on the dock in the heat and humidity. Condensation murdered the Macs before they were ever plugged in.

 

[Passinwind]

That's the thing, the creative community also belongs to the church of Apple. And no mistake, it is a religion. Show them you can do exactly the same task on a different platform just as efficiently and risk great ire. It's just not done.

Long, long time ago in Hattiesburg, Mississippi — not my account, an associate's tale — a client paper bought a handful of Macs for their graphics department. Someone saw the Apple logo on the boxes and delivered them on a refrigerated truck. They were unloaded on the dock in the heat and humidity. Condensation murdered the Macs before they were ever plugged in.

Ah, so nice!

My nephew tried mightily to dissuade me from buying the iPad. He has a degree in A/V production from Berklee too, surely he knows the score. But it's at least possible these days to swing both ways fairly easily, and I've actually enjoyed working out how I'm going to do that. Watching how The Voice did all their "live rounds" via the Microsoft Surface appliances they sent out to the contestants was pretty interesting, although there still seemed to be plenty of the dreaded BSODs going down.

 

[beans-on-toast]

The creative community doesn’t care about cost so Apple’s high prices doesn’t deter them. People like simple which is a feature in Apple products. No need to dowload, install, and sort out drivers.

 

[Charlie Tango]

Mine's your basic portable music stand (for some reason)

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To save maybe six bucks at the time, I got this one: Gator Frameworks GFW-MUS-0500 Lightweight Sheet Music Stand .

It's fine <sigh> but it's not a Manhasset. Six bucks.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Every computing platform I've ever seen and/or worked with blows ('scuse me) on some level. What people really want (I once opined) is Fischer-Price. Easy to use, moderately entertaining, nearly indestructible. Pull the string, the spinner stops on the cow, the computer moos, and it completes your task.

In the real world, users are going to count the number of actions it takes to pull the string, will time how long it takes to complete the job (string -> bow wow / cock a' doodle doo / whinny), why the new sound is different from the Fischer-Price they used to use, why the graphics are different (I like the old barnyard cat picture better) etc etc

No new computer in any form is going to make the users happy. QED.

 

[GwenOnBass]

To save maybe six bucks at the time, I got this one: Gator Frameworks GFW-MUS-0500 Lightweight Sheet Music Stand .

It's fine <sigh> but it's not a Manhasset. Six bucks.

You got that for six bucks?!

 

[Charlie Tango]

Very light weight. Don’t need a sherpa for a stand like that. Mine serves as an ipad stand, sometimes a lunch counter.


I just ordered this hand truck, hoping that it works out. They claim 330lb capacity. We’ll see.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/home/storage/hand-trucks/72575-folding-hand-truck

I used one like that plenty of times. The only gripe I ever had was wishing the handle extended just two inches more.

 

[Charlie Tango]

You got that for six bucks?!

No, that was the price difference between the Gator and the Manhasset. Oh well, the Manhasset doesn't fold up and the Gator does. Which I've never had to do.

 

[Polish Thunder]

The creative community doesn’t care about cost so Apple’s high prices doesn’t deter them. People like simple which is a feature in Apple products. No need to dowload, install, and sort out drivers.

As a Mechanical Engineer by day, I have used Microsoft and Windows since becoming an engineer many moons ago and that is what I prefer (possibly because that is what I know?). For the technical applications like AutoCAD, SAP, and others, I think they run better in Microsoft as the platform. My wife, daughter, and son all have Apple iPhones. I have always used the Android phone since smart phones came out (Samsung S10e currently) and love them.

When I think of Apple computers, I think of artistic....the lady on her Mac book at the coffee shop posting on social media, Graphic Designers, writers, and users that are more creative than technical.

While my wife likes it that she can just turn on her phone and use it (ease-to-use designs and data migration), I like to get down to the root files of my Samsung and set it up to my liking. I like long battery life so I shut off some of the fluff graphics that waste battery.

Note: This was posted with a Dell Precision 7520 laptop.

 

[Charlie Tango]

Every computing platform I've ever seen and/or worked with blows ('scuse me) on some level. What people really want (I once opined) is Fischer-Price. Easy to use, moderately entertaining, nearly indestructible. Pull the string, the spinner stops on the cow, the computer moos, and it completes your task.

In the real world, users are going to count the number of actions it takes to pull the string, will time how long it takes to complete the job (string -> bow wow / cock a' doodle doo / whinny), why the new sound is different from the Fischer-Price they used to use, why the graphics are different (I like the old barnyard cat picture better) etc etc

No new computer in any form is going to make the users happy. QED.

This is all true. In my career, after managing golf courses for the first half of it, I moved to the IT department to make more money. We had about 900 computers, 896 of which were Windows-running PCs. The other four were Macs, used by the graphic artists and the video production guy. (I think the original reason that major print publications went with Macs was because of the shape of the on-screen pixels vs. Windows PCs. That gave them true WYSIWYG and didn't require guesswork.) Anyway, guess who almost never called with a problem. Yep, those four. I learned that Windows eats its own young. In more than 13 years I was constantly stunned at the different ways Windows could trash files and make folks' productivity grind to a halt.

Everybody does want simple. In Apple's early days they adhered to what was almost a mantra: The User Is Boss. But not so much now. I use both Apple and Microsoft devices every day, almost as much as before I retired, and both communities gripe about how the overlords are dictating to them with features that are always changing. Each community has its rabid adherents, same as with chocolate and vanilla ice cream, and denigrates the other. Each is better at some things than the other. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice. It's been ever thus.

 

[Passinwind]

While my wife likes it that she can just turn on her phone and use it (ease-to-use designs and data migration), I like to get down to the root files of my Samsung and set it up to my liking. I like long battery life so I shut off some of the fluff graphics that waste battery.

Note: This was posted with a Dell Precision 7520 laptop.

I would have been astounded at all the bloat and wasted horsepower that the iPad defaults to, except that it's eerily familiar. Run virtually every app in the background and update it constantly even though I never use it? No thanks, I'll wait 7 seconds for the weather app to upload. Back everything I do up to the Cloud via my lightning slow upload speed bottleneck...nope. OTOH, it's a $250 economic stimulus booster, yay!

 

[mikeoso]

Eh, we used to get kinda rowdy in marching band. Lots of us played related, but different instruments for marching, like I played tenor sax instead of my usual bass clarinet, because marching with a bass clarinet...no. It's almost like you had a different persona. Uh, stuff went on.

I was in a small town school with a high powered band program. We never took sheet music out on the field...ever. To get enough people in the marching band, the HS used 7th and 8th graders as well...lot of the male HS musicians were also football players. In 8th grade I was playing bass drum in marching band and tymps in concert. Drummers were the crazies.

 

[GonePlaid]

I was in a small town school with a high powered band program. We never took sheet music out on the field...ever. To get enough people in the marching band, the HS used 7th and 8th graders as well...lot of the male HS musicians were also football players. In 8th grade I was playing bass drum in marching band and tymps in concert. Drummers were the crazies.

Our HS in the 60's was grades 10-12. It was a big enough school we marched ~100 plus twirlers. West Point style uni's. Real comfortable in Miami. And, yes, drummers were nuts.

 

[beans-on-toast]

As a Mechanical Engineer by day, I have used Microsoft and Windows since becoming an engineer many moons ago and that is what I prefer (possibly because that is what I know?). For the technical applications like AutoCAD, SAP, and others, I think they run better in Microsoft as the platform. My wife, daughter, and son all have Apple iPhones. I have always used the Android phone since smart phones came out (Samsung S10e currently) and love them.

When I think of Apple computers, I think of artistic....the lady on her Mac book at the coffee shop posting on social media, Graphic Designers, writers, and users that are more creative than technical.

While my wife likes it that she can just turn on her phone and use it (ease-to-use designs and data migration), I like to get down to the root files of my Samsung and set it up to my liking. I like long battery life so I shut off some of the fluff graphics that waste battery.

Note: This was posted with a Dell Precision 7520 laptop.

As an EE, I have been using Apple systems for many years. (An early consulting job for Customs and Excise in the late 70’s used an Apple II!) Most work at the time was using DEC PDP and VAX systems. In the early 80’s Sun Microsystems running UNIX became widely adopted in engineering in my sphere.

When I worked for IBM, I did the development work on a Sun computer and then ported the final application onto an IBM AT.

Apple OS has low level access as well. After all it is a UNIX machine. You can fire up a unix window and enter line level commands if you wish.

Microsoft has committed to and is moving to an open unix low level platform. Like everything else, they copy what Apple has already done. Windows is getting unmanageable from a future system development point of view and they admit to needing a clean new approach to improve performance. So on to Linux. They are working toward open system certification.

Microsoft hosts first Windows Subsystem for Linux conference | ZDNet

Call me crazy, but Windows 11 could run on Linux

 

[beans-on-toast]

The only gripe I ever had was wishing the handle extended just two inches more.

Did you really say that!

 

[mikeoso]

Our HS in the 60's was grades 10-12. It was a big enough school we marched ~100 plus twirlers. West Point style uni's. Real comfortable in Miami. And, yes, drummers were nuts.

We marched 70, with no twirlers or flags, just a drum major. Since the town is the location of "The Little Brown Church In The Vale", we used a marching arrangement of that old hymn as the kickoff to every performance. Very weird.

 

[beans-on-toast]

When I was very young, I wondering if I would have to fight a war like all the past generations of my family did. For play you had toy guns. Organized groups for kids were all basically paramilitary training. Marching bands are no exception. It isn’t a bad thing by any means. Good skills and values are taught.

Society seems to have moved in different directions. The Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy recently.