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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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The entire point of a tabloid newspaper (as explained to me) is to be easy to read on public transit. The content in a tabloid is similarly considered.

The problem with publishing to a multiplicity of devices is any notion of typographical standards is as dead as a really tired metaphor. Type has a voice. Apple gave typography to the unwashed masses and the result is Souvenir.
Now, now, mustn't forget Comic Sans. Or was that MicroSoft?
 
Now, now, mustn't forget Comic Sans. Or was that MicroSoft?

Yea Comic Sans is MS.

Imagine if you're a rat grade editor at a rat grade paper assigned to the weekly religion page. Imagine wading through "press releases" composed by, well, Karens. Karens with a Mac and Quark xPress.

Everyone knows Pan Am and I Dream of Jeanie Bold Extended. Few know how to use the typefaces properly.

I cut my typographical teeth on the Speedball Textbook 20th Edition.
 
In 1961, long before computers, the IBM Selectric and its type balls were an attempt to change it all. It was revolutionary, a typewriter that could change fonts. Changing balls mid line to add a greek letter or a math function drove those in the typing pool nuts. The dot matrix printer never compared in quality, but it was easier. We could all settle for less. This concept spead far and wide.
 
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Yea Comic Sans is MS.

Imagine if you're a rat grade editor at a rat grade paper assigned to the weekly religion page. Imagine wading through "press releases" composed by, well, Karens. Karens with a Mac and Quark xPress.

Everyone knows Pan Am and I Dream of Jeanie Bold Extended. Few know how to use the typefaces properly.

I cut my typographical teeth on the Speedball Textbook 20th Edition.
And, of course, the problem was never Apple or MS. It was the refusal of people to educate themselves. They had, in the Mac's case, a whiz-bang tool that could easily make horrocious-looking dreck very quickly, and the uneducated churned it out by the ream. Why use two fonts when there are twenty more?

I started using a Mac in 1988 and quickly found that I knew zippo about anything more to do with page layout and design than the basics I learned in high school typing class. So when my employer offered a class on the subject I jumped at it, and that made a nice difference. I picked up some books, a copy of (then) Aldus PageMaker and set about putting what I'd learned into practice. I turned out some decent stuff for a guy whose real job was running golf courses, but far from pro output. Mrs. Tango is the editor of a quarterly magazine and occasionally uses me to edit her writing, but I wouldn't dream of opining about layout or graphics unless asked.
 
Apple also killed the music store with iTunes. Some say that they saved the music business with another revenue source. Now iTunes is dead, streaming is in.

Recently Apple introduced AppleNews. A subscription based digital clearing house for papers and magazines. Even better, they will determine what articles you should read. They want to control what we think, do, and say. We don’t have to wait till the year 3535.


Like we're even gonna reach 2525. Some couple on a distant planet will look up and see a 'shooting star'. Guess who.
 
Like we're even gonna reach 2525. Some couple on a distant planet will look up and see a 'shooting star'. Guess who.

Can’t wait for 500 years to pass. All it will take is a virus to do us all in.

Out of interest, I looked up the events of 500 years ago. It seems that the world had their arms up over one thing or another. Things don’t change.

1520 - Wikipedia

1525 - Wikipedia
 
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People in 1620 are us

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“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates
 
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

Oh he met me, then?
 
Can’t wait for 500 years to pass. All it will take is a virus to do us all in.

Out of interest, I looked up the events of 500 years ago. It seems that the world had their arms up over one thing or another. Things don’t change.

1520 - Wikipedia

1525 - Wikipedia
At least no ongoing war between the Gibson and 7ender camps.
 
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