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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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IIRC the old fake books were sold under the table at music stores because of copyright infringment concerns. Then someone got the bright idea to sell a book with stuff all done above board so it could be sold legally and The Real Book was born. Nowadays nobody remembers the old fake books. Except us old farts.
The original Real Book was totally outlaw, in my time you bought it at the Copy Cop shop across the street from Berklee, or reputedly a laundromat nearby on Mass Ave. By the time I bought mine the secret handshake requirement was waived though. ;)
 
The original Real Book was totally outlaw

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I already told this story? Didn't I? In this thread? :unsure:

Ask Cindy for an ice cream sandwich, and bring cash is what I was told. Bass clef Real Book, 5th edition, is what I took away, along with a delicious ice cream sandwich. Still have that Real Book. It's one of the few things I kept in the Big Pare Down. With it, I kept Carol Kaye Electric Bass Lines No. 4 (with the original receipt).
 
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I already told this story? Didn't I? In this thread? :unsure:

Ask Cindy for an ice cream sandwich, and bring cash is what I was told. Bass clef Real Book, 5th edition, is what I took away, along with a delicious ice cream sandwich. Still have that Real Book. It's one of the few things I kept in the Big Pare Down. With it, I kept Carol Kaye Electric Bass Lines No. 4 (with the original receipt).
Did they actually call your clandestine version a "real book?" Because my understanding was that the "real" part of the title was a clever way to distinguish that it could now be purchased above board. But there were a gazillion different fake books out there.
 
Did they actually call your clandestine version a "real book?" Because my understanding was that the "real" part of the title was a clever way to distinguish that it could now be purchased above board. But there were a gazillion different fake books out there.

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25576006[/URL], member: 317378"]Did they actually call your clandestine version a "real book?" Because my understanding was that the "real" part of the title was a clever way to distinguish that it could now be purchased above board. But there were a gazillion different fake books out there.
Yep, it was always called the Real Book, or at least from v2 which is what my first one was. AFAIK the Sher book (v6) is the first actual legit version. Sher had to remove the Zappa tunes to get there, Frank never granted permission for any of the old ones.
 
Yep, it was always called the Real Book, or at least from v2 which is what my first one was. AFAIK as I know the Sher book (v6) is the first actual legit version. Sher had to remove the Zappa tunes to get there, Frank never granted permission for any of the old ones.

And a few other standards are "missing" in the Sixth Edition. On Green Dolphin Street is the first head I looked for in the legal edition. Totally not there. Found Night Train in the legal edition and that totally wasn't in the Fifth Edition. I suppose someone, somewhere needs to play Night Train for someone. @GonePlaid is Night Train one of your group's standards?
 
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Oh I just had to listen to some On Green Dolphin Street. Miles, Paul Chambers, Bill Evans, Cannonball Adderly OhMiGawd
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What I find kind of interesting (another back story) is our head coach saw these grooves are my happy place not terribly long ago. Funny thing, then, feeling like a total beginner with this material while at the same time these are totally not beginner songs. Beginners can't arpeggiate diminished or augmented chords, right? :bag: I've the nagging feeling I will always feel like a beginner.
 
Oh I just had to listen to some On Green Dolphin Street. Miles, Paul Chambers, Bill Evans, Cannonball Adderly OhMiGawd
'scuse the YouTube fart



What I find kind of interesting (another back story) is our head coach saw that these grooves are my happy place not terribly long ago. Funny thing, then, feeling like a total beginner with this material while at the same time these are totally not beginner songs. Beginners can't arpeggiate diminished or augmented chords, right? :bag: I've the nagging feeling I will always feel like a beginner.

I can arpeggiate them, just not very well (like Toonces the cat). I get that where I see a diminished chord I can play a flat five and sound like I know what I'm doing. Since I don't get asked to play standards very often, that usually passes for me knowing something. But really, I need a lot more practice.
 
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And a few other standards are "missing" in the Sixth Edition. On Green Dolphin Street is the first head I looked for in the legal edition. Totally not there. Found Night Train in the legal edition and that totally wasn't in the Fifth Edition. I suppose someone, somewhere needs to play Night Train for someone. @GonePlaid is Night Train one of your group's standards?
We used to play it fairly regularly in my jazz trio, using a chart our keyboard player transcribed from the Oscar Peterson/Ray Brown version. My surf-blues guitarist friend learned part of Brian Setzer's big band version but never played the actual melody, which earned him plenty of stick from moi.
 
I knew I shouldn't have put the dog's meds next to mine on the shelf... :eek:
Oh well, at least I'll be protected from worms and fleas for a while.

-Something really spooky: "California" can be translated from Spanish as "hot oven..." o_O

Friend of mine accidentally gave his dog his wife's Ambien instead of the dog's heart medication, for the same reason :sleep:

When you encounter the original v5, the much later Leonard one, and the Sher book all on the same bandstand you have a Real Mess, ask how I know.

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