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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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Ok...we’re back, so what did I miss?

Some drunk monkey drilled a new hole in my booteek 5 string that I use for testing new preamp designs, because @BadExample told me that moar knobs = moar tone. Treble is in the air...oh wait, that's actually Passinwind.


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Some drunk monkey drilled a new hole in my booteek 5 string that I use for testing new preamp designs, because @BadExample told me that moar knobs = moar tone. Treble is in the air...oh wait, that's actually Passinwind.


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Georgeous bass, @Passinwind ! I like natural finishes. Wife calls them coffee tables but I own one! Good catch! Do you like it?
 
I know.

I always firgued that the Beach Boys used a bass harmonica for that low end sound and a Rickenbacker 12 to get the high end chime.

That bass sax and Firebird 12 string are really cool and both worked well.
I played a bass sax while in the Navy, in Charleston, SC. We were asked to film a Christmas concert for one of the TV stations. Our regular upright bassist/tuba man had wangled Christmas leave(this was before I started playing bass). Because I could read and transpose concert pitch bass clef to treble clef, Bb sax, I said I'd play the tuba parts. The one caveat was that on the last note of the last medley, I told them not to put the camera on me. The last chord was a very fat concert G. The lowest note on the bass sax is a concert Ab.... BUT, if you cross your left leg over your right knee and put your Wellington boot in the bell of the sax, that low Ab(concert)becomes a very passable low G(concert). It may have looked like crap but it got the job done.. BTW, a bass sax takes a lot of air(puff, puff)
 
Well, I finally changed my avatar to me, instead of Shadow. It almost hurts to remove him like that-- he was such an important part of our lives. It still stings how quickly he left us. He was sick for about three weeks (we thought) and when he lost all his weight-- then we found out it was terminal. It was so fast-- he used to sit on the front porch waiting for me after work. I still see him in my mind's eye getting up to give me some licks to welcome me home.
Sorry for your loss. He'll still be waiting for you.
 
Georgeous bass, @Passinwind ! I like natural finishes. Wife calls them coffee tables but I own one! Good catch! Do you like it?

It's great for being a fretted 5 string hippie sandwich, but in all honesty all those things still feel a bit unfamiliar at this point Will.
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And I do have designs on a fretless Marco Bass, which would be a lot less over the top aesthetically.
 
It's great for being a fretted 5 string hippie sandwich, but in all honesty all those things still feel a bit unfamiliar at this point Will. View attachment 3107107

And I do have designs on a fretless Marco Bass, which would be a lot less over the top aesthetically.
Let's face it, Charlie, you're a party animal! :laugh:
 
I played a bass sax while in the Navy, in Charleston, SC. We were asked to film a Christmas concert for one of the TV stations. Our regular upright bassist/tuba man had wangled Christmas leave(this was before I started playing bass). Because I could read and transpose concert pitch bass clef to treble clef, Bb sax, I said I'd play the tuba parts. The one caveat was that on the last note of the last medley, I told them not to put the camera on me. The last chord was a very fat concert G. The lowest note on the bass sax is a concert Ab.... BUT, if you cross your left leg over your right knee and put your Wellington boot in the bell of the sax, that low Ab(concert)becomes a very passable low G(concert). It may have looked like crap but it got the job done.. BTW, a bass sax takes a lot of air(puff, puff)

Bending a note on a bass sax must be next to impossible on the lower notes. I imagine that the reed must just be just flapping, leaving no room at all to relax your lower jaw. Do you also loose the volume level?
 
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Bending a note on a bass sax must be next to impossible on the lower notes. I imagine that the reed must just be just flapping, leaving no room at all to relax your lower jaw. Do you also loose the volume level?
Once you get down to the lowest notes, being slightly"off"is almost indiscernible. By putting my foot in the bell, it flatted the low Bb to an A(G concert), close enough that with all the other horns(4 trumpets, 4 trombones, 5 other reeds-saxes and clarinets)and somewhat less than digital quality recording(1967)it "cut the mustard". Sax men have been using the "partially cover the bell to flat the low Bb" trick for decades.The "low A" Baritone sax is a relatively recent development(35-40 years). Because the Bari is an Eb instrument, low Bb=concert Db. With many pieces being done in C, it left the Bari-often the lowest pitch horn in a big band-not low enough to provide a good foundation. This is why many big band arrangements were/are in concert Db-not the best key for guitar/bass. By making the low A Bari sax available, arrangements can be written in C and sound solid. Obviously, using a Bass sax instead of a Bari would alleviate the situation. However, big bands traditionally use 2 Altos, 2 Tenors and the Bari, so arrangements would have to be rewritten. Plus which, a Bass sax will run one about $25K and up. You can get a decent low A Baritone sax for $1400. AFA losing volume, that depends on your lungs. And now you know more about low range saxes than you ever wanted to know. BTW, the Bass sax is not the lowest pitch saxophone. The contrabass sax is 1 octave lower than a Bari, There's one that's an octave lower than the Bass sax-the subcontrabass sax-and there's a thing called a tubax which goes lower than the bottom notes on a piano. Google it. They're weird.
 
Fascinating!

This guy gets a nice rich tone out of these low end harmonicas. BTW, despite the name, I’ve never seen a marine band performing with just harmonicas. :laugh:


$25K and up for a bass sax, no wonder why they are so rare.




These instruments are a work of art. Something a rich plumber might enjoy.

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Once you get down to the lowest notes, being slightly"off"is almost indiscernible. By putting my foot in the bell, it flatted the low Bb to an A(G concert), close enough that with all the other horns(4 trumpets, 4 trombones, 5 other reeds-saxes and clarinets)and somewhat less than digital quality recording(1967)it "cut the mustard". Sax men have been using the "partially cover the bell to flat the low Bb" trick for decades.The "low A" Baritone sax is a relatively recent development(35-40 years). Because the Bari is an Eb instrument, low Bb=concert Db. With many pieces being done in C, it left the Bari-often the lowest pitch horn in a big band-not low enough to provide a good foundation. This is why many big band arrangements were/are in concert Db-not the best key for guitar/bass. By making the low A Bari sax available, arrangements can be written in C and sound solid. Obviously, using a Bass sax instead of a Bari would alleviate the situation. However, big bands traditionally use 2 Altos, 2 Tenors and the Bari, so arrangements would have to be rewritten. Plus which, a Bass sax will run one about $25K and up. You can get a decent low A Baritone sax for $1400. AFA losing volume, that depends on your lungs. And now you know more about low range saxes than you ever wanted to know. BTW, the Bass sax is not the lowest pitch saxophone. The contrabass sax is 1 octave lower than a Bari, There's one that's an octave lower than the Bass sax-the subcontrabass sax-and there's a thing called a tubax which goes lower than the bottom notes on a piano. Google it. They're weird.

Love all that. I mixed a show one time in a tiny local club where Paul McCandless showed up with 9 horns. I had about 4 hours advance notice and this was ostensibly an Americana/Newgrass show. The segments he played on bass clarinet, especially, make for sweet lifetime memories. Miking any of those bass instruments is pretty interesting, but luckily Paul was on top of it and super easy to work with.
 
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Some drunk monkey drilled a new hole in my booteek 5 string that I use for testing new preamp designs, because @BadExample told me that moar knobs = moar tone. Treble is in the air...oh wait, that's actually Passinwind.


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You know what these boutique machines are like. Now it’ll be unbalanced and there’ll be an out of place vibration that the mechanic won’t be able to resolve.
 
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