Good 18" + cab?

[greenboy]

What about Bill Fitzmaurice Design's Titan39? I've got one with the glue drying right now that's pretty much the same dimensions as my Ampeg 610hlf.

I really haven't looked at the Titan 39 too hard yet - only the Omni 15 where the driver is essentially not horn-loaded at low frequencies. But the Titan is probably tall/large enough to load further down.

With two neo12's I think it would give any 18 a serious run for its money.

Sure would. Horns can give a lot more SPL with the same watts. It'll be a big rig with a big sound.

 

[pedro]

Well the BF cabinets is something else I've been considering. I played thru a OT 15 and very much enjoyed it. Was thinking of a OT2x15 as a stand alone bass cabinet. Its just that I'm just a ham and egger and its going to cost me a lot of $ to get one made.

 

[James Hart]

I think it would give any 18 a serious run for its money.

specs and frequency response don't equal tone... Bills subs do look interesting. I might build something of his (or like his) for PA use.

 

[ryco]

... but at the end of the day, MY ideal is an 18" plus a couple of 12" and NO tweeters.

NOW your talkin'!! Just add a couple more 12s. 18 + 4x12.

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So THAT'S how you do that! Thanks - you are a gentleman and a scholar

 

[greenboy]

Well the BF cabinets is something else I've been considering. I played thru a OT 15 and very much enjoyed it. Was thinking of a OT2x15 as a stand alone bass cabinet. Its just that I'm just a ham and egger and its going to cost me a lot of $ to get one made.

If you want big sound I'd suggest starting with the Omni15 Tallboy.

 

[csholtmeier]

Was thinking of a OT2x15

I was thinking the same thing, but decided to go with an Omni10.5/Titan39 stack so I can use the 10.5 on small acoustic type gigs.

its going to cost me a lot of $ to get one made.

I figure I'll have about $300 in the two cabs when I'm done. The build is not that hard if you have a table saw and take your time.

 

[A9X]

I happen to want speaker break up with my bass. I think it's a good part of some of my favorite bass tones.

Undoubtedly. In my personal (limited) experience it works best with something like a good sub/LF driver and an almost guitar cab setup above that. I don't think an 18 is going to break up in quite as pleasant a way as say a Celestion G12 etc.

 

[greenboy]

Undoubtedly. In my personal (limited) experience it works best with something like a good sub/LF driver and an almost guitar cab setup above that. I don't think an 18 is going to break up in quite as pleasant a way as say a Celestion G12 etc.

Yeah, the BW in the 1820 as I recall runs pretty much like subwoofers of the day as far as harmonic distortion, breakup modes, right up until it's ready for power fartage. The Tens were more like a guitar load.

 

[A9X]

Yeah, the BW in the 1820 as I recall runs pretty much like subwoofers of the day as far as harmonic distortion, breakup modes, right up until it's ready for power fartage. The Tens were more like a guitar load.

Thanks. I've wanted a Peavey 1820 but never seen one here. I have missed 2 1516's in recent times though. When I finish my build I think I'll be happy.

 

[greenboy]

You'll probably laugh: I used to own an 1820 for my sax and electronics rig. I used to run my bari and tenor through a bunch of stuff including octave divider, EQ, tape echoplex, various distortion, chorus, phaser, wah-wah etc stomp boxes, into a solid state amp for the lows and a Fender tube head for the highs. Bari shifted down an octave or two with some low EQ can really whump the bejesus out of a room.

It was a killer rig to move and set up too ; }

 

[A9X]

No wonder you live in a remote mountain cabin. Neighbours must hate you.

 

[K2000]

I'm really interested in this thread, and I have a couple of questions. First I should say I have an Ampeg SVT and 8x10. I absolutely love my amp, but I want a little more girth in the low end, so I am trying to research good ways to enhance what I already have.

First, I was under the impression that a sealed 18" cabinet would be preferrable to a ported cab, at least in a matchup with my sealed cabinet. Do I have that right?

I noticed that Ampeg still lists an 18" cab on their website, although I thought it was discontinued? Also, that cab says "front ported" so even Ampeg's 18" cabinet is not sealed. So who makes a sealed sub cabinet (or recommend a cab to go with my 8x10).

I was figuring that I would split my signal into two heads/two cabs. Is a crossover really important? I couldn't get the same effect by using some drastic EQ on the sub's signal? I guess I need to learn about crossovers, how they work, and who makes a good one.

I use to have one of those Peavey 1820s years ago, and I didn't like it, but I was driving it with a Peavey 200 watt head which was current to the cab, and the real problem may have been the head, and not the cab.

 

[Geoff St. Germaine]

I'm not sure why a sealed cab would be preferable. Perhaps you like the sound of a sealed cab, but a ported cab will have better low frequency extension. I'm not really sure how many sealed subwoofers exist for pro audio applications. I haven't seen one, but that doesn't mean there aren't any.

 

[greenboy]

Finding an MI or SR sealed 18 cab that would complement what you already have would likely be ah er unlikely. You want to get more bass in the region where the other cab is rolling off, right? A ported 18 design will do that easier, and that's why you won't find many if any sealed ones.

 

[sublime0bass]

ive got the ampeg 1832 he (the monster with the green compression driver) and it does indeed rock the **** out of any venue available. although i suck at daisy chaining and crossovers, so i have mine with a true biamp (instrument--> sub amp-->line out to highs-->highs amp

 

[BASSKADET]

I have a question for you. I have a 410hlf and a SVT 2 pro. I want to put an 18 under it for a 2 ohm load. How do I get the most out of this setup with this head. Do I need a crossover for the 18 or does the 18 only allow a certain frequency?
Thanks

 

[bgavin]

I'm not really sure how many sealed subwoofers exist for pro audio applications.

None that I have seen either. Pro Sound woofers are high EBP meaning they are designed for vented boxes because they have to get the maximum SPL from these for live use.

At concert levels, nobody could hear the difference in tightness between vented and sealed subs. The loss of bass extension, and the required increase in amp power and driver count is not worth using sealed subs.

 

[pedro]

Here's another idiotic question from the peanut gallery. Could someone explain to me what the difference between sealed and ported is? How do I tell the difference.

 

[BASSKADET]

Here's another idiotic question from the peanut gallery. Could someone explain to me what the difference between sealed and ported is? How do I tell the difference.

Ported holes in cab
sealed no holes

 

[K2000]

Finding an MI or SR sealed 18 cab that would complement what you already have would likely be ah er unlikely. You want to get more bass in the region where the other cab is rolling off, right? A ported 18 design will do that easier, and that's why you won't find many if any sealed ones.

D'oh...!!!

I've been browsing for cabs, and all the while I've been ruling out the ported ones...

I have a question for you. I have a 410hlf and a SVT 2 pro. I want to put an 18 under it for a 2 ohm load. How do I get the most out of this setup with this head. Do I need a crossover for the 18 or does the 18 only allow a certain frequency?

Bump, I'd like to know the answer to this, too.