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Green Wood: Time to Cut Bait!

Humidity control is probably equally or perhaps more important than temperature control. In something like 2006 or 2007, I cracked a Rob Allen fingerboard a bit because the whole house humidifier wasn't working. That being said, I try to avoid ebony fingerboards on basses. Once I took control of humidity, I found myself adjusting truss rods almost never once things have settled.

Dryness and fluctuations can kill a lot of guitars and basses over time.

In the South and Midwest there have been some huge fluctuations since mid February. In February, it went from -2 F to nearly 70 in just a few days. In the last two weeks, we have gone from a last snowfall to 85.
 
In the South and Midwest there have been some huge fluctuations since mid February. In February, it went from -2 F to nearly 70 in just a few days. In the last two weeks, we have gone from a last snowfall to 85.

I'm not too far from ya. Extremely cold, dry, and snowy winter. I humidify a small room and my 5 gallon humidifier would only last 2-3 days when the heater was running non-stop.
 
It's quite scary to find out that your instrument warps after a while just because of the climate change, I am so sorry.
I hope this never happens to me and I have read so many stories of people buying an instrument from some warmer climate and having it transferred somewhere colder like the USA or EU... sheesh.

The internet has been around for a while. Lots of discussions on the best bass for metal, but almost zero talk about proper guitar/bass care. Hell, I have purchased more gear than I care to admit and nobody has ever told me how to properly store them.

Really, it's just about temperature and humidity control. It's not that difficult once you get the hang of it.
 
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I know this post is over a month old now, but what specific problems are you having with your Ray 5? You did mention warped necks on other instruments, but unless I skimmed past it, you didn't mention exactly what has gone wrong with your Ray 5.
I also presume that since a month has passed, you've already taken it for repair by now.
I am curious about this case because I own a Ray 4 that is over one year old now. Just before the pandemic began, I played it at an outdoor gig during which a cold front blew in and the temperature dropped from around 75f to around 40f. I had to retune frequently, but my instruments suffered no damage or noticeable change of action.
It's been to many outdoor group practices since then without issues, but I now wonder if the kind of issues your fiver has are right around the next corner for my Ray 4. Or maybe they are specific to the five-string model due to the increased tension on the neck and body.
So just curious. What specific issues, and did (or will) the luthier/technician do to remedy them?
 
I know this post is over a month old now, but what specific problems are you having with your Ray 5? You did mention warped necks on other instruments, but unless I skimmed past it, you didn't mention exactly what has gone wrong with your Ray 5.
I also presume that since a month has passed, you've already taken it for repair by now.
I am curious about this case because I own a Ray 4 that is over one year old now. Just before the pandemic began, I played it at an outdoor gig during which a cold front blew in and the temperature dropped from around 75f to around 40f. I had to retune frequently, but my instruments suffered no damage or noticeable change of action.
It's been to many outdoor group practices since then without issues, but I now wonder if the kind of issues your fiver has are right around the next corner for my Ray 4. Or maybe they are specific to the five-string model due to the increased tension on the neck and body.
So just curious. What specific issues, and did (or will) the luthier/technician do to remedy them?


The store straightened the neck out. This was me playing it at church this Sunday. It still has some frets that are uneven, but the congregation can’t hear it.
 
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I had a Roscoe LG3005, one day after changing the strings (same brand and same gauge), the neck just decided to completely cave in. I meant it was so extreme, with the trussrod maxed out, there was still a 3-4mm gap at 9th fret. Since the bass was already a few years old by then and I wasn't the original owner, I had it fixed on my own dime and it wasn't cheap. I guess the moral of the story is that even high end boutique basses can suffer the same fate.

On a side note, many manufactures and builders are now adopting the use of roasted maple. In my opinion, it can solve a lot of problems, especially comes to lower end offerings. The process draws out moisture in a controlled environment and can be scientifically monitored. I would imagine if a piece wood is going to shift, it will likely happen during the roasting process, thus creating a more stable piece of wood as an end product. I meant not everyone can afford 20+ years to air dry their timber like Ken Smith does.
I must’ve purchased the one Ken Smith six that they accidentally dried for only 20 minutes! The neck was very unstable—unlike my L2k tribute’s neck, which has remained incredibly stable for about 15 years... and cost about 1/10th the price!
 
My Pedulla lives outside the case as do my SBMM Ray 4 and my Fender Player Strat.
The only time any of them go into a case or bag is for transport to or from my house.
I’ve adjusted the Ray and the Strat Truss rods once. The Ray is about a year-and-a-half old, and the Strat a couple of months old.
I think I’ve had to adjust the truss rod on my ‘82 Pedulla two or maybe three times since about 1991.
I take them all to group practice weekly which has been outdoors since last spring. I’ve played one gig with them this year so far which was a warm and very humid evening.
The stability of the old Pedulla makes sense.
Maybe I just got lucky with my SBMM Ray 4 and got one with a good neck. Hmmm.
Still, the OP has me a little worried for the long-term dependability of my Ray4’s woodwork.
 
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