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Grindcore

Less of a musican than me. No, not at all, your just,I would think a younger musician than me.

I would hope you would actually be better than me. None of this has ever been easy for me. It's still tough.

Do I wish you would have started a few years earlier, yeah, I do.

Looking back on your comment about a musician who began at 22, I must admit, I may even be a little frightened. I wish I started earlier too. In the 2 years I've been playing, I can honestly say I'm very proud of the skill I have now. Given an extra two or three years, I have no idea what I may be able to do right now.
 
Jung,I expect a lot more thought from you.I was in the 6th grade rehearsing for the talent show with my first band.

We did Cool Jerk and Cleo's Back

I was no Johnny Come Lately to the scene.

To this day if I am talking to a guitarist, bass player, drummer whatever and I ask when did you start playing. Whem they say something like, I was 22. In my mind I'm saying "Oh Dear" That will never work.

I have some opinions on how that effects certain parts of being in Rock. That is not to say that there are some great players that started later in live. It's just weird for me.

Key words guys, "Opinions" and "Me" as in just me.


It's Jong, Jung was a psychologist......

I played Mozart in public when I was in 7th grade. It doesn't mean I was part of the Classical scene. I went to Disco Wheels to roller skate when I was 10, it doesn't mean I was part of the Disco scene. My friends performed raps and did the beatbox when we were in junior high, but it didn't make me part of the early hip-hop scene.

After putting alot of thought into it, playing at a junior high talent show and being part of a scene are not equivalent.
 
Looking back on your comment about a musician who began at 22, I must admit, I may even be a little frightened. I wish I started earlier too. In the 2 years I've been playing, I can honestly say I'm very proud of the skill I have now. Given an extra two or three years, I have no idea what I may be able to do right now.

I guess it's different for different people and I don't think it has much to do with how good or how well any of us plays.

I just think there is something unique about the mind set of guys when you start playing at 10-11 and your playing because it was your idea.

There is just something in your head at that age that makes you think you can do or be anything.

Your to young for chics, there usually isn't much messin with your head at that age.
 
Boy, and you wonder why you have (had?) trouble getting gigs.

I actually never wonder or even look at anything in terms of not getting a gig.

If you don't get the gig, you don't get the gig and you move on and do whatever you have to do for whatever you want to do, I guess.

We all can't be like you, you have all the answers.Why don't you share some with us.

We would love to hear from you.

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I guess it's different for different people and I don't think it has much to do with how good or how well any of us plays.

I just think there is something unique about the mind set of guys when you start playing at 10-11 and your playing because it was your idea.

There is just something in your head at that age that makes you think you can do or be anything.

Your to young for chics, there usually isn't much messin with your head at that age.

Claypool started when he was 16 if I recall correctly.
It doesnt matter when you start.. its who you are.
Some guys have a natural ability combined with a great work ethic and in 3 years can school someone that has been playing for 10.
We're all different.
 
It's Jong, Jung was a psychologist......

I played Mozart in public when I was in 7th grade. It doesn't mean I was part of the Classical scene. I went to Disco Wheels to roller skate when I was 10, it doesn't mean I was part of the Disco scene. My friends performed raps and did the beatbox when we were in junior high, but it didn't make me part of the early hip-hop scene.

After putting alot of thought into it, playing at a junior high talent show and being part of a scene are not equivalent.

Let me put it this way, it was my first band , that talent show lead to gigs at Holloween parties, and four guys developing as musicians together that lasted through High School and even after High School.

As far as I'm concerned I have been part of the scene since 6th grade.

Another I'm right and your wrong.
 
Claypool started when he was 16 if I recall correctly.
It doesnt matter when you start.. its who you are.
Some guys have a natural ability combined with a great work ethic and in 3 years can school someone that has been playing for 10.
We're all different.

Thats exactly what I have been saying.

A lot of the Tbers must see things in my posts that I don't see or they mis-interpret my posts.

Probably a little of both and the fact that I don't make it easy either.
 
This is because (I theorize) "metal" is not just a form of music; it's also a lifestyle or philosophy. One who subscribes to that lifestyle tends to consider all things metal to equate with desirable and cool. This makes things awkward when faced with a band that (in that person's opinion) sucks: it's metal, which equals good, but they suck, which equals bad---does not compute.

The way metalloids break out of this conundrum is to define a sub-genre of metal which is the "real" or preferred metal, which includes the bands they like, and identify some other sub-genre comprised of the bands they think suck. The result is vitriolic internet brawls over whether band X is in genre A or genre B, the answer to which depends on whether you like band X and which genre you prefer.

this.

but also, (and i think more importantly) metalheads use so many different genres to describe bands because they are actually USEFUL!

if my mate tells me about a new band he's heard and describes them as melodic death metal, i'll have a pretty good idea of what they might sound like, and whether or not i would probably like them.
 
Maybe I was a little harsh, just a few comments and questions;

Do you know who Paul McCartney is or anything about his legacy?

When we talk about Paul McCartney do you really think we are merely talking about him as a bass player?

Please tell me your like 13 or 14 years old, if you are than I can understand why you might be very informed.
 
Let me put it this way, it was my first band , that talent show lead to gigs at Holloween parties, and four guys developing as musicians together that lasted through High School and even after High School.

As far as I'm concerned I have been part of the scene since 6th grade.

Another I'm right and your wrong.

Another?!?! Usually "another" requires a first. ;)

No matter how cool you thought you were in 6th grade, you were still part of the junior high scene. Thinking that playing kids parties makes you part of the "scene" is pretty laughable. Maybe you were trying to break into the scene, and maybe you were in the scene later, but in 6th grade, :eyebrow: let's be real.

Another where you're making more out of something than it actually is, and too foolish to realize it.
 
Maybe I was a little harsh, just a few comments and questions;

Do you know who Paul McCartney is or anything about his legacy?

When we talk about Paul McCartney do you really think we are merely talking about him as a bass player?

Please tell me your like 13 or 14 years old, if you are than I can understand why you might be very informed.

You know people are only talking smack about Macca because you trolled on the Grindcore stuff. Odd how you get worked up when people diss Macca, the same way the Grindcore dudes don't like you ignorantly dissing their music. But instead of the Metal guys calling you old, you're calling them young.

This thread just gets better.
 
Maybe I was a little harsh, just a few comments and questions;

Do you know who Paul McCartney is or anything about his legacy?

When we talk about Paul McCartney do you really think we are merely talking about him as a bass player?

Please tell me your like 13 or 14 years old, if you are than I can understand why you might be very informed.

You should probably learn that "you're replaces the words "you are". "your" describes possession.
Not trying to be rude but if you're going to be actively calling someone 13 or 14 years old you should probably be able to write at a 3rd grade level.