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Like a lot of posts on TB and The Gear Page, this reminded me of stuff someone I knew back in the day used to have. He had one of those micro stacks with the Lead 12 head on top of a pair of tiny cabs shaped basically like a normal Marshall stack at maybe one-eighth scale. But they were pretty well beat when he found them. So he had a friend who worked in an auto upholstery shop. And he had her re-skin all three cabs, making them look literally better than new, And he pulled the solid state guts out of the head and swapped in a SovTek MiG50 head, or something similar. I think I remember it being the 50 Watt. The speakers were swapped with something moderately serious, but didn't really work with their tiny enclosures.

But, when he ran it as a stereo rig, with the cabs twelve or fifteen feet apart, it was MUCH more effective than it should have been.

Actually, I knew three or four guitar players back then that used stereo rigs with widely separated cabs. Was this a fashion for a bit in the late 80s/early 90s? Or did I just jam with weirdos?

I gigged on guitar with stereo rigs during separate momentary lapses in reason in the early '80s, early '90s and again in the early '00s.

So yeah. You just jammed with weirdos.

My guitar player in the 80s, once we started getting out of the shot-'n'-beer joints into bigger place, had two Marshall 4x12" that he would put on either side of the stage (as I did with my two "refrigerators"). We weren't going through the PAs, in that size place (200-500 cap.) and having the sound on both sides made all three of us happy.

Late 80s I played with a guy that used a wide placed 2x12" set up. Played with another guy with his 4x12" cab split stereo.
Funny this topic should come up from a reply of mine: the guitarist and I in my current live gig both run cabs on either side of the stage. When I first saw him performing as a duo with the drummer, he ran an EVH 5150/Matamp 4x12 on one side and an Orange Rockerverb/Orange 4x12 on the other. When I joined up, I started using a Peavey 215D on one side and Peavey 212 on the other, both powered by my Peavey Mark IV head and made possible by a 20’ speaker cable. While ridiculous, especially in this day and age, it looks and sounds huge, and everyone likes hearing everyone else relatively clearly. As my own project gets off ground, I might utilize a scaled-down version of this approach with relatively lightweight 1x15s on either side and a Class-D-powered head.
 
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OK, I'm about to flip my lone fretted bass for an acoustic guitar. Somehow I've never owned one, although I've shared living space with many nice ones and have pretty much always had at least one electric around ever since I started playing. I have a starting plan and a couple of candidates on hold in a shop 90 minutes away, but going to a few physical shops and just seeing what grabs me is a big part of the attraction. Any ideas on sleepers in the under $1K range would be much appreciated, bearing in mind that I don't want a classic dreadnought and prefer single cut, decent pickup built in, and need to cover a wide range of music at home and local jams, with no gigging anticipated.
It's about time you got your own guitar! :) Can't help really with recommendations, though as I haven't looked at that market range in a very long time. Perhaps something Yamaha or Alvarez?
 
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All this talk of stereo guitars reminded me of this recording from the early '80s. A friend that I dod a lot of music with back in those days sent me a tape with some acoustic guitar tracks of his for me to create and add parts to. This one was bass ('67 Rickenbacker 4005WB with the neck toaster solo'd, played with a pick) and electric guitars ('78 Gibson RD Artist). I used my (at the time) Walter Woods MI 100-8's line out into a TASCAM 3440 running at 15 IPS with the dbx engaged.

"Daffodil Trail" copyright © Stephen J. Rago & Jeffrey P. Scott 1982 All rights reserved.
 

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No accounting for purpose, nor is there any real method to the madness.

Just a random selection. One may suit :) bits may be missing.

This would be my pick, most probably:)
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All this talk of stereo guitars

I own two stereo guitars.

The first one is an Ovation UK II electric, which does the "usual" thing - send the pickup signals in two different directions - when both are on with the stereo jack engaged.

The other one is also an Ovation - 1669 Custom Legend Cutaway - which is *very* interesting for studio work since it splits the signal so the 1st, 3rd and 5th string go to one channel and 2nd, 4th and 6th to the other one...I love it.
 
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I own two stereo guitars.

The first one is an Ovation UK II electric, which does the "usual" thing - send the pickup signals in two different directions - when both are on with the stereo jack engaged.

The other one is also an Ovation - 1669 Custom Legend Cutaway - which is *very* interesting for studio work since it splits the signal so the 1st, 3rd and 5th string go to one channel and 2nd, 4th and 6th to the other one...I love it.
You need to add one of those old Gretsches that split the pickups between the EAD and GBe strings.
 
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Funny this topic should come up from a reply of mine: the guitarist and I in my current live gig both run cabs on either side of the stage. When I first saw him performing as a duo with the drummer, he ran an EVH 5150/Matamp 4x12 on one side and an Orange Rockerverb/Orange 4x12 on the other. When I joined up, I started using a Peavey 215D on one side and Peavey 212 on the other, both powered by my Peavey Mark IV head and made possible by a 20’ speaker cable. While ridiculous, especially in this day and age, it looks and sounds huge, and everyone likes hearing everyone else relatively clearly. As my own project gets off ground, I might utilize a scaled-down version of this approach with relatively lightweight 1x15s on either side and a Class-D-powered head.

Ridiculous?

No.

Insane?

Maybe.

At least for me.

In the early-to-mid-'90s, at the peak of my insanity, I was playing guitar in 2-3k capacity ballrooms. At one point I was hauling and setting up a '72 Marshall half-stack, a '66 Twin Reverb and a '67 Super Reverb. This was just beyond nuts; In the grand scheme, we were a dance band.

At least we were well-paid for the effort. Not so by the mid 2000s when I was back down to bar scale. By then, I'd scaled back my guitar gigs to two Blues Juniors in stereo, but even this added extra cabling and setup/teardown to what was pretty superfluous when you stepped 20' away from the stage.

Not that I'm completely cured of the obsession, but these days I find that by working as many gigs as I can, I obsess more often than not on what I can get away with leaving at home. "Is that extra weight, load and setup/teardown time really necessary?"
 
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It's about time you got your own guitar! :) Can't help really with recommendations, though as I haven't looked at that market range in a very long time. Perhaps something Yamaha or Alvarez?

My brother has an old Korean Breedlove and a brand new Japanese production Yamaha A5 series guitar up for sale right now, both for great prices, but I flat out won't buy anything without seeing and playing it in person. So a road trip to the other side of the country could happen, but first I need to go play a dozen different ones and just see what grabs me, I reckon. I really like the idea of buying from a local company using local wood, which = a myrtlewood Breedlove in my case. But Yamaha and Alvarez are definitely both on my radar, along with the Godin related brands. It's also quite possible that I'll just buy an econo archtop jazz box, which could work great for me unplugged when my wife is around, and hold good resale if bought used. I know a lot more about those too.
 
Funny this topic should come up from a reply of mine: the guitarist and I in my current live gig both run cabs on either side of the stage. When I first saw him performing as a duo with the drummer, he ran an EVH 5150/Matamp 4x12 on one side and an Orange Rockerverb/Orange 4x12 on the other. When I joined up, I started using a Peavey 215D on one side and Peavey 212 on the other, both powered by my Peavey Mark IV head and made possible by a 20’ speaker cable. While ridiculous, especially in this day and age, it looks and sounds huge, and everyone likes hearing everyone else relatively clearly. As my own project gets off ground, I might utilize a scaled-down version of this approach with relatively lightweight 1x15s on either side and a Class-D-powered head.

The ones that most come to mind are the guitar player from my most successful old band, and one of his friends who eventually became somewhat known as a smooth jazz guy. John had a stereo ADA power amp going to a pair of 1x12 cabs that he'd had made. Each 1x12 would sit on one of my 4x10 Hartke cabs (This WAS the ate 80s) The thing that makes those 1x12s funny in my memory is that the guy who built them had them all done as naked wood and asked John what he wanted them covered in. John said to make them look like the most generic, forgettable, ordinary cabs the maker could think of, so that no one would ever try to steal them. He put the black fuzzy-furry covering we now call "rat fur" on them and somehow attained a pair of Crate badges to put on them, so the LOOKED like Crate 1x12s, but were actually custom made units.

Pete's most memorable cabs were made by a guy called D.L Monsuen. He had a pair of 4x10s that could be broken all the way down to the individual speakers. So the bottom two 10s had a closed back. The top two had an open back, but came with an insertable wooden plate to make them effectively closed backs just like the bottoms. They could be used mono, left/right stereo, top/bottom stereo, or if you had the stuff and wanted to, as four individual speakers. He had two of those cabs made. But he almost never took the second one on gigs because it was overkill. The wiring and jack setups on those were baffling to normal people. And occasionally to me, as well. My favorite set up he used them for was both 4x10s set to top/bottom stereo, on either side of the riser. One side had a head going to the open back side of each cab. The other side had a head going to both closed back sides. I can't swear. But I think I remember it being a Fender to one and a Vox to the other.

And if stereo wasn't enough, I used to occasionally jam with a guy named Craig, who had the most wildly excessive rig in the history of the universe. He had a pedal board about the size of my bass case, that went to three different combo amps. But the last section of the effects monstrosity was a pair of Morley Stereo Volume/Pan pedals. So by using his feet, he could effective blend between the amps. So he had a Fender for clean (Deluxe Reverb, I think.) a Groove Tubes Soul-O for crunchy, and a Mesa/Boogie for leads. Craig was also the guy who came to jams with the guitars that I most covet more than a decade later. You will hear me mention both the most awesome SG, ever ( I think I've mentioned it in this thread already.) and the coolest ES type, ever. The SG in question was basically just like your usual 61RI, except the wood was different. It was White Limba, the stuff Gibson usually called Korina. The ES-Artist was basically like a Gibson Lucille in sunburst, without all the extra bling. It also had different electronics, I think designed by Robert Moog. I'm not often a Gibson guy, on guitar or bass. But both of those were sweeeeeeeeet to play. Craig had more money than he needed, something I'm not familiar with. But he had the coolest rigs. The only thing they were missing was restraint.
 
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My brother has an old Korean Breedlove and a brand new Japanese production Yamaha A5 series guitar up for sale right now, both for great prices, but I flat out won't buy anything without seeing and playing it in person. So a road trip to the other side of the country could happen, but first I need to go play a dozen different ones and just see what grabs me, I reckon. I really like the idea of buying from a local company using local wood, which = a myrtlewood Breedlove in my case. But Yamaha and Alvarez are definitely both on my radar, along with the Godin related brands. It's also quite possible that I'll just buy an econo archtop jazz box, which could work great for me unplugged when my wife is around, and hold good resale if bought used. I know a lot more about those too.
Maybe on of those Godin 5th Avenue models. A friend of mine has (maybe not, anymore, not sure) one of them. He also has a Multiac Nylon and a Multiac Jazz.
 
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Maybe on of those Godin 5th Avenue models. A friend of mine has (maybe not, anymore, not sure) one of them. He also has a Multiac Nylon and a Multiac Jazz.

Yep, there's a pretty nice looking used 5th Avenue one over on the other side of Portland that I could probably check out early next week. Not too keen on the Bigsby, but it's not necessarily a deal breaker. There's not a huge amount of GAS involved, I will happily bide my time as needed.
 
Maybe on of those Godin 5th Avenue models. A friend of mine has (maybe not, anymore, not sure) one of them. He also has a Multiac Nylon and a Multiac Jazz.

I've tried a few of those Godins, as recently as about two weeks ago, and they are excellent guitars IMO. I've seriously considered getting one, but right now my guitar GAS is focused on an HH hardtail Superstrat type, maybe Charvel or Schecter.

I used to have a Fender MIA Big Apple Strat, which had a hardtail and came stock with Seymour Duncan pickups. I sold it a few years ago, which I've regretted, but I do prefer flatter fretboards, so I think I'll be happier with something else anyway.
 

Sadly, I'm done.

No more lion


… not by choice (This is a much lighter gauge than I've ever tapped into). Even the image is hard to come by these days. Those sets still for sale may be a little long-in-the-tooth. They dropped this version quite some time ago now.

Remember them?

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Magic, pianoforte-like strings, bold-as-brass.

And they're still being made …

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Just forked out for a few of these sets — the present-day iteration. Used to use medium-light sets but I'm easing back into a different, easier feel now hopefully, with elevenses. We'll see how it goes. They're not cheap in the antipodes but I say they're well worth it, the rotos.


They're also a dead-easy way to get a lower action, due to the nature of their core nakedness. You'll need to keep this in mind if you already have a very low action. Got my first set in the early eighties on the strength of a flatmate's awarenesses. He used nothing else, swore by 'em:)

This ad goes right back to the beginning, I imagine. Check the exposed core.

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James How forms another string company entitled ‘Superwound’.
These strings pioneered a new string design where only the core passed over
the instrument’s bridge. The Superwound range included 606 & 707 bass strings,
Starfire guitar strings, and Country Gold acoustic guitar strings.
String-height drops conveniently by the width of the wind:)

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All things considered — and I'm secretly overjoyed by this — turns out I may still be lion. Please disregard.​
 
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Yep, there's a pretty nice looking used 5th Avenue one over on the other side of Portland that I could probably check out early next week. Not too keen on the Bigsby, but it's not necessarily a deal breaker. There's not a huge amount of GAS involved, I will happily bide my time as needed.
Dave's had a trapeze tailpiece.

This ad goes right back to the beginning, I imagine. Check the exposed core.

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String-height drops conveniently by the width of the wind:)

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All things considered — and I'm secretly overjoyed by this — turns out I may still be lion. Please disregard.​
I tried a set of those back when they came out. It was a cool novelty, but that's about it, IMO.
 
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I had a great day visiting three music stores in Vancouver WA and playing a dozen different acoustic guitars yesterday. One of the two Breedloves the web sales manager at one store pre-selected for me to try ended up coming home, but I also tried a Taylor, a Gibson, and a Yamaha before deciding. The variation over that dozen instruments was quite substantial and I'm sure many if not most other people might've chosen something else. The two pre-selected ones were new in their boxes and the floor sales guys knew nothing specific about them, but all the sales people at each store were super cool and very helpful.

Part of my audition process involved plugging in through one of my DIY EQ pedals, which made a huge difference with the very rudimentary electronics in the import Breedlove I tried it with. But I'll build a dedicated one for this guitar soon, I'm sure. :cool:
 

Recently found inspiration — especially in an open-tuning sense — from the effervescent Mr. Phil Keaggy, who can be seen using two plain-and-simple cue-stick capos, in a partial manner, and to great effect. He easily achieves an open-tuning setup, up and down the neck, simply by recreating a bar chord using two capos, in standard tuning. Makes sense to me, for some reason. So I picked up another capo capable of this sort of application :) a Shubb C1. Not a partial capo but it should do the trick, if I'm right.

I think Mr. Keaggy's using one Kyser capo and one Shubb C1 here, to generate a D-major chord, and the open E goes all the way down to D — I do dig that low D on these contraptions:)

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I'll be following suit, no doubt, if it all comes together. Thank you, Mr. Keaggy.​
 
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So this is the import Breedlove I ended up bringing home:

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Time to start from the very beginning with this one, 'shedding tunes I originally learned on guitar over fifty years ago. But I intend to sing most of them too now, which was way out of my grasp back then.
 
Stunning wood! Play it in health!

Thanks James. I actually went with the more conservative wood choice for once, which plays against type a lot! ;)

Just as with basses, we really are blessed with a lot of pretty nice lower cost options for guitars these days. In about three hours I played a lot of sub-$1K instruments that I would have been happy to take home, and never even got to the Portland stores.
 

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