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I am in the camp of "sing it straight or don't sing it!" and certainly Lady Gaga hasn't ever given me any reason to care about whatever it is that she does...HOWEVER- I found myself watching and getting drawn in and eventually feeling that "swell" that only certain renditions can bring. It was oddly amazing and it's incredibly rare for me to praise anyone I don't normally care for...bravo for knocking one outta the park...at least IMHO. God Bless America AND the B4SS!!!
 
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I thought she took less liberties with it than most do. For my money, the best renditions I've ever heard are:

1. Whitney Houston
2. Dixie Chicks (very close to a tie for 1st)
3. Lada Gaga last night

Some people make that thing sound stale and labored. Gaga sang it like she really was proud to be an American. I thought it was fantastic!

There is only one sanctioned version of our National Anthem---- it's stored in the nation's achieves. Everything else is a misrepresented version of it. I'm with Gravedigger (and all of the US Military Bands) on this one.
 
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I'm with you on this! I don't understand how anybody can think it's alright to change the melody of the national song of our country! To me it needs to be sung exactly as it was written note for note. I'm a NASCAR fan and some of the anthems before the Xfinity and Sprint Cups races are absolutely horrendous! The only people that sing it as it's suppose to be is when they have a singer from the Military. They understand what it's all about!

We are not the only ones annoyed by this: Fine proposed for botching US national anthem

Here's a great comparison at just how much singers are mangling it: Invalid Link Removed

I couldn't disagree with this more.
 
Personally, I like the embellishment, so long as the singer hits the notes and doesn't forget the words. If I remember my high school history correctly, the melody to the Star Spangled Banner was lifted from an popular drinking song.
Correct, but I'm not sure what that has to do with it.
She got the words, She did more than enough ornamentation (embellishment), but she didn't hit the notes of the melody. She made up her own melody. For jazz and pop music that is cool. For the national anthem, I don't think so. But, that's just me.
 
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I thought she did well with the Anthem, and the embellishment was not bad, certainly compared to other takes on it. I don't think it's a musically awful song as some seem to think. It is extremely hard to sing, since the melody runs up and down an enormous vocal range, and you could hear her straining at rockets red glare.

Here's what I wonder about the halftime shows: the musicians don't actually play music, but mime to a backing track (whether or not they remember to keep up the illusion by plugging the instruments in - I was checking too!). But the dancers still actually dance. You can't fake that part. So why is it that they hype up Coldplay playing, if Coldplay isn't going to play? Why not just say it's going to be a world-class choreography spectacle with amazing dancers, and let the dancers dance? Seems to me you could short-cut all the griping over it by just calling it what it is, a dance performance to prerecorded music, and let the dancers be stars.
 
I adore Lady GaGa and think she is a wonderful singer and thought she did fine last night and I'm sad to find out that her minor embellishments are making a whole lot of people mad and that there is a serious movement afoot to make this song something sacred. Just craziness.

Love you all.
 
Just something to toss out there.... NOBODY EVER SINGS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN. So, even you traditionalists who may think embellishing is out of the question should be aware, you have probably never in your life heard it done like this or sang it yourself like this. It was written as an upbeat waltz kind of thing. No, you didn't sing it that way in your Boy Scout meetings. No, you didn't sing it this way at your school growing up. No, you didn't hear it this way at any baseball game you have ever attended. No, Sister Matilda never sang it this way at the church homecoming.

Here is the song the melody was derived from.


And here is the way that Joseph Nicholson took Francis Scott Key's poem and stuck it in the same melody..... kind of..... back in the early 1800s.


Never mind that the second through fourth verses are never, ever performed.

My question is this. Why is it that some opera singer singing it "straight" nowhere near the original tempo, or the way your Baptist Church sings it, or the way your Boy Scout troop sang it, etc. and adding only a few embellishments is somehow "traditional" when it sounds very dissimilar to the original? Francis Scott Key would probably hate the way you sang it when you were growing up.

Show the song some respect. That's all I ask. Sing it or play it "as it was originally written"? Meh. None of you have ever done that....unless you sing in the only group anywhere with a harpsichord and orchestra clipping along at a pretty fast pace. Why hold them to the same standard?

I think she did great. When she first hit it big, she tried everything in her power to make a spectacle of herself. At the game, she mostly stood still and let her pipes do the talking, wearing a (for her) subdued red suit and heels.

The offense in question.....


Not here to lecture anyone. Just tossing my opinions out like everyone else. Like what you like. Hate what you hate.
 
Personally, I like the embellishment, so long as the singer hits the notes and doesn't forget the words. If I remember my high school history correctly, the melody to the Star Spangled Banner was lifted from an popular drinking song.
You Sir, are correct.

"The Star-Spangled Banner wasn't originally intended as an anthem. The tune was first known as "To Anacreon in Heaven," a British drinking song written in the late 18th century. Francis Scott Key wrote new lyrics in 1814; this version was designated the United States' national anthem in 1931."
 
America didn't become the best country in the world by following dogma and coloring between the lines.

I think an artist expressing an individual interpretation of patriotism via the National Anthem is among the many things that make the U.S.A. great.

Oppressive dictatorships are where you'll find these kinds of deviations met with trial-free imprisonment, beheading, etc..

If Lady Gaga had intentionally made mockery of it, that would be one thing; but, she obviously treated the opportunity as an honor.
 
So this thread is titled "halftime" and the majority of posts are about the pre-game national anthem?

There is more than enough material in the half-time show for comment.
Yeah, it was all synced, thus sucked. The retro flower-power graphics on the stage was a bad acid trip.

On the bright side: The Black Panther Power Marching/Dancing(?!) Squad headed up by BeyondSaleDate was unintentionally hysterically funny. Move over, MC Hammer. :laugh:

Brunoze MarzBarz Boyz, ditto. Loved the rubber suits. Must have cleaned out some SF sado-maso shop for those.

The only time I laughed harder was watching SuperCam's tantrums in the last three minutes.:roflmao:
 
Just something to toss out there.... NOBODY EVER SINGS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN. So, even you traditionalists who may think embellishing is out of the question should be aware, you have probably never in your life heard it done like this or sang it yourself like this. It was written as an upbeat waltz kind of thing. No, you didn't sing it that way in your Boy Scout meetings. No, you didn't sing it this way at your school growing up. No, you didn't hear it this way at any baseball game you have ever attended. No, Sister Matilda never sang it this way at the church homecoming.

Here is the song the melody was derived from.


And here is the way that Joseph Nicholson took Francis Scott Key's poem and stuck it in the same melody..... kind of..... back in the early 1800s.


Never mind that the second through fourth verses are never, ever performed.

My question is this. Why is it that some opera singer singing it "straight" nowhere near the original tempo, or the way your Baptist Church sings it, or the way your Boy Scout troop sang it, etc. and adding only a few embellishments is somehow "traditional" when it sounds very dissimilar to the original? Francis Scott Key would probably hate the way you sang it when you were growing up.

Show the song some respect. That's all I ask. Sing it or play it "as it was originally written"? Meh. None of you have ever done that....unless you sing in the only group anywhere with a harpsichord and orchestra clipping along at a pretty fast pace. Why hold them to the same standard?

I think she did great. When she first hit it big, she tried everything in her power to make a spectacle of herself. At the game, she mostly stood still and let her pipes do the talking, wearing a (for her) subdued red suit and heels.

The offense in question.....


Not here to lecture anyone. Just tossing my opinions out like everyone else. Like what you like. Hate what you hate.


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I just watched the video again. I think she was sincere. But, the pace was way too slow. The slower versions have become more popular, but it once was notated the temp was to be Con Spirito.
And she did make up her own version of the melody in places. The most impressive spot, to me, was the octave jump on the word Free. That is skill.

Not bad, for a grumpy old gravedigger!