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#243
I just got a Hartke full stack TODAY!

3500a head
Transporter 1x15
Transporter 4x10

got it all of craigslist for $600!!!


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number please xD
 
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I don't have a Hartke, but I did try a LH1000 into two Hydrive 410's the other day, and I totally see why Vic went with them. Instant Vic tone. Too bright and hi fi for my tastes (tried to attenuate the cab horns but couldn't find the knob, and the store was getting ready to close), but it's way better than I was expecting. The Hydrives work a lot better than the all-aluminum cones if you ask me.
 
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JimmyM said:
I don't have a Hartke, but I did try a LH1000 into two Hydrive 410's the other day, and I totally see why Vic went with them. Instant Vic tone. Too bright and hi fi for my tastes (tried to attenuate the cab horns but couldn't find the knob, and the store was getting ready to close), but it's way better than I was expecting. The Hydrives work a lot better than the all-aluminum cones if you ask me.
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That's why I finally got rid of my Hartke XL 215's and 410's that I was running through an Ampeg SVT4 Pro head. I play in a 70's-80's classic rock/dance group and the Hartke aluminum cones produced too bright and modern a tone, designed more for slapping than punching.

I was always trying to dial in that vintage deep bass tone out of the Hartke cabs until I finally got the Ampeg 810 cab and now I was able to get that vintage tone straight out.

For rehearsals, I did get the Hartke VX3500 combo piggyback amp with the paper cones 410 and horn and they produce a great bass depth tone vs. the bright tone of the aluminum bright tone. I even use it for smaller venue shows.

I think if you're a slapper, the aluminum cones would work OK, but they just can't seem to produce that deep old world bass tone.

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ChasFL said:
I think if you're a slapper, the aluminum cones would work OK, but they just can't seem to produce that deep old world bass tone.
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I would argue different on that. Although I'm fully loving my HyDrive 410, the XL series of cabs are still my favourite bar none and I don't have "slapping" gigs :smug:

I really like the fact that I can get a nice top end to cut through any kind of mix and as I usually run any and all amps flat I'll either give a little bump @ 500Hz or 1K depending on how much I need to poke through.

they definitely don't "moan" like an Ampeg but I don't think they're strictly a 'slapper's' cab either, they can get lo-fi if they want to ;)
 
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PDavyduck said:
I would argue different on that. Although I'm fully loving my HyDrive 410, the XL series of cabs are still my favourite bar none and I don't have "slapping" gigs :smug:

I really like the fact that I can get a nice top end to cut through any kind of mix and as I usually run any and all amps flat I'll either give a little bump @ 500Hz or 1K depending on how much I need to poke through.

they definitely don't "moan" like an Ampeg but I don't think they're strictly a 'slapper's' cab either, they can get lo-fi if they want to ;)
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I had the Hartke XL's for so long and really had to dial in to find that lo-fi tone as opposed to the off the top paper cone tone, but again, that's JMO.

I just happened to get the XL 410's first way back to try them and then got the 215's to match running with a Hartke 4000 HA but then got a good deal on a Ampeg SVT4 Pro amp afterward, so it was more just a matter of the order in which I obtained everything. I just could never dial in that ultimate deep tone that I really wanted that I heard others have with the 810 paper cone cabs.

But I seem to have found the tone I was looking for with the Ampeg 810 cab through the SVT4 Pro pushing it so it's just a mater of preference I guess.

I can get close to the same tone with the VX3500 Harke piggback I mentioned above so it's not like I'm off Hartke's, I'm just not as big a fan of the aluminum coned drivers.
 
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sorry for the stupid question, but i figured that who would know better about heartkes than people in the hartke club? haha

anyways i have an 8x10 but its the one with all black speakers, forgot the model name.

its not the 8x10 with the silver speakers. i was wondering what the big differences between the two were, its probably the speakers but is the one i have bad?

haha thanks
 
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PoundinThunder said:
sorry for the stupid question, but i figured that who would know better about heartkes than people in the hartke club? haha

anyways i have an 8x10 but its the one with all black speakers, forgot the model name.

its not the 8x10 with the silver speakers. i was wondering what the big differences between the two were, its probably the speakers but is the one i have bad?

haha thanks
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Nothing stupid about the question, I'm sure many people ask what's the difference between aluminum speakers and black (paper) coned speakers, if they have never personally compared the two styles.

It's not a matter of which one is worse than the other as much as what tone you are looking for. IMHO, as I've had both, the aluminum cones tend to give more of a modern, bright stringy tone to the bass whereas the black paper cones give a deeper, old world 70's-80's bass tone.

I originally bought the Hartle aluminum coned speakers as I got a good deal on them at the time and thought it they would just be more versatile in dialing in different tones, but I always found myself wanting to get the old world bass tone and struggling to dial it in. I finally got tired of that and got the 810 paper cones and found that deep bass tone at face value (without having to try and dial it in).

Now you might get some that will argue my opinion on this so just take it as what I personally experienced by having both kinds of speakers.
 
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