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Hating on anything but Fender

So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

What do I think? I think that what my Grandfather told me, many years ago, still applies; "Boy, don't ever pay a braying Jackass any mind; no matter how many legs he's standin' on.." I still think it's good advice...:whistle:
 
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I did know a guy who bought a new SVT back when you always saw them with two cabinets. Two weeks later he had it for sale because one of the bands he auditioned for required Marshalls only (Image thing). A poor move financially as the "Marshall" band broke up eight gigs into it. I tried to talk him into renting, but it was a no go.
 
There are 1911 owners who only want to see "Colt" and "45acp" rollmarks or they consider a pistol suspect junk.

Back in the day snobs wanted to see "IBM" on a computer or it was lesser quality junk.

Many people assume you are of lesser intelligence, economic status, moral standing, social class, etc if your phone is anything but the newest and biggest $ iPhone.

30 years ago these people wanted to see an alligator on your polo shirt or you/it was inferior in some manner.

My gfs hates it when I buy cheapie peanut oil to fry her fried chicken, she can't taste the diff. I just refill the $$ bottle with $ peanut oil.
Now that’s some funny stuff with the oil lol
 
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So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what
People like that are snobs. You can always have a preference to a certain brand but to say stick to X is just plain stupid. The fact is certain companies do certain things better than others. I was Primarily a Spector player then on advice from someone he told me to try Fender Jag Basses. I went and traded one of my Spectors for one and LOVED IT. From there I tried Jazz Basses. Loved them as well. Then a friend told me to try P Basses liked them as well. Then I got a P bass which I converted into a PJ and it’s a beast. I chase tone and feel not namebrand.
Now my bass family collection consists of
1986 Gibson Thunderbird
Fender Jaguar CIJ
G&L L2000
Spector Mike Starr Euro with a US Haz preamp
1989 Fender CIJ PJ
I’ve got a bass for every possible situation which could come across my way.
I play in two bands and having my Basses as varied as they are helps. I’ve played in numerous bands and never have I been asked to bring a certain type of bass. My playing is what has gotten me gigs.
play what you want:bassist::)
 
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I think long ago the talk was more about it especially irritating the producers, I recall a guy bringing his bass in, and them insisting he use a Jazz bass that was at the studio because they were so used to knowing exactly how to mix it..........it was someone we’ll know I just can’t remember dang it, but that’s a pretty particular situation maybe, was just curious since I’ve heard all than multiple times now.

Thanks again everyone for chiming in.

Stay safe everyone.
 
For the record, I have owned (and currently own) one Fender bass. I started playing in 1982 and have taken only a brief hiatus from 1996 - 2000. I got the Fender (Geddy Lee CIJ Jazz Bass) in 2000 for free and, while it is a good bass, it has only rarely shown up in my hands onstage and has been sitting in a case in the closet for most of the last decade. Again, it's a good bass, but I like my Dingwalls and my Warmoth so much more.

If I were ever told to bring a Fender to something, I might get snarky and require the other people to only show up having driven Chevys, or only play through a certain brand of amp, or only chew a certain kind of gum, or drink a certain brand of beer, or use a certain version of Pro Tools, etc... to point out the ludicrous nature of the request.
 
I think long ago the talk was more about it especially irritating the producers, I recall a guy bringing his bass in, and them insisting he use a Jazz bass that was at the studio because they were so used to knowing exactly how to mix it..........it was someone we’ll know I just can’t remember dang it, but that’s a pretty particular situation maybe, was just curious since I’ve heard all than multiple times now.

Thanks again everyone for chiming in.

Stay safe everyone.
I saw an interview on Scott's Bass Lessons where a bassist told the story of showing up with an active bass that wasn't a Fender and getting poopie for it.
 
I have a fender classic '70s jazz, a fender current edition steve harris P and a ric 4003.
Would love another Bongo 4

I dont bash what others like.

Actually the best bass that fit me was a Bongo 4.
Loved that thing , sold it to buy a car when the wife ran off with the neighbor.

Are people who bash fenders on the same level as Fender people who bash other brands ?
 
Now that’s some funny stuff with the oil lol

Oh man, when I told her about the switch after a few months she near accused me of some nefarious motivations.

I'm just frying chicken and pork chops man.
Save a couple $ so I don't wince about her organic free range cruelty free avocados that are sung to by angels every sunrise and sunset, fed bottled water and vegan imported soil from Atlantis.
 
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Are people who bash fenders on the same level as Fender people who bash other brands ?

I would say so.

I'd also imagine nobody would walk up to any of the bass greats and tell them they'd sound better with a different bass (unless they were selling that bass). And if they did (and didn't offer something like a sponsorship), that bassist would probably end that conversation pretty quickly.
 
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So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

YouTube comment sections are sewers of the internet: the most recorded session bassist ever, Carol Kaye, currently plays an Ibanez with a pick.

Use what sounds good to you and play it like you mean it, that’s all that has ever really mattered.
 
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There are 1911 owners who only want to see "Colt" and "45acp" rollmarks or they consider a pistol suspect junk.

Back in the day snobs wanted to see "IBM" on a computer or it was lesser quality junk.

Many people assume you are of lesser intelligence, economic status, moral standing, social class, etc if your phone is anything but the newest and biggest $ iPhone.

30 years ago these people wanted to see an alligator on your polo shirt or you/it was inferior in some manner.

My gfs hates it when I buy cheapie peanut oil to fry her fried chicken, she can't taste the diff. I just refill the $$ bottle with $ peanut oil.
The 1911 is a good pistol, but the guys who talk about how they "won" two world wars tend to be a bit goofy. The hi-power is also a solid design, same with the tokarev. Kinda weird how bullets work, plenty of people are willing to say that a bullet is inadequate, very few are volunteering to demonstrate.

Same with stuff that isn't Fender, plenty of folks rag on fender, plenty of folks rag on stuff that isn't. I used to think gear mattered, then I learned that skills matter, gear sorta does but mostly doesn't.
 
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Play whatever suits you - it's your tone. That said, there is an amazing diversity of potential sounds that can be generated with Fender inspired basses (including the copies, knock-offs, betters, etc.). Even if you stay within the Fender brand, there are differences between a 50s P and a 70s, even more true for 60s Jazz vs 70s. Mostly it's that Fender made the first two widely accepted commercial bass guitar lines, so they're kind of the standard instruments, the sound that people have in their heads for what bass is supposed to sound like.
 
So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.
I’m 69, started playing bass at 16, I’ve never, except on the Internet, heard anything like this. If someone said something like that to me I’d simply tell ‘em to play bass themselves; I’m going over to the adults table.