Hating on anything but Fender

[I-play-bass]

As a Canadian I totally want to know who this is! I know you can't say, but I still want to know! Good story.

He's old and retired, and as difficult a person as he was, I definitely wouldn't throw his reputation under the bus.

 

[Doctor Intrepid]

He's old and retired, and as difficult a person as he was, I definitely wouldn't throw his reputation under the bus.

For sure. No worries.

 

[SactoBass]

 

[Koshchei]

I once had a music teacher (Juno winning music teacher) who disregarded any instrument that did not say Fender or Gibson on the headstock. He forced myself and the other bass player to play a 2000's American Jazz bass that you could shoot arrows off the neck. I brought in my Warwick to a practice once, to see if he'd let me use it. We played it that practice, it sounded fine, the other bass player loved how it felt, then the music teacher told me to leave it at home and go back to the Jazz.

He ended up stopping us mid-performance once on a gig (we were a highschool rock band) and told me I need to tune the bass, as it's out. I quickly checked, I was tuned in fine, and had to let him know in front of a crowd of 1000 students that "This neck is so bowed that every note I fret is out of tune". He remained unflinching in that being our #1 bass. I had asked to use the back up bass several times already at this point (a 78 Fender P bass) and he refused/ignored my requests.

It was after Bob Ezrin the producer visited our band and mentioned how he thought the P bass would be a better fit for us did the Music teacher suggest we switch to that bass. When I expressed how happy I was that he would finally let us play the boat anchor ( it sounded great though) he then went on the say "Well how come you never told me that you guys wanted to play that bass instead?". Myself and the other bass player (who was the guy's son) were flabberghasted.

When I left the following year, the music teacher became passive aggressive toward me, and spoke about how I "Didn't know a bass from a large mouth bass".

Real winner, that guy.

shaging bad high school music teachers are the reason that most people aren't musically literate. I've had too many of my students quit music altogether because their school music teachers were passive-aggressive unfunny perverts who either creeped on them or turned band into The Hunger Games, completely destroying their love of playing.

 

[Jack Butler]

Personally I think the build quality of even the cheapest Ibanez SR series is better, or at least far more consistent, than any current MIA/MIM Fender. ...

Ibanez makes GREAT instruments in every price range (probably only rivalled by Yamaha in that respect), they just haven't quite cracked the code on making "vintage vibe" instruments.

You may think SR build quality is better than MIA Fender, but you'd likely be in the minority. I guess none of us will buy up and test a significant enough sample size to statistically prove it one way or another though.
I do agree Ibanez makes great instruments in every price range, but honestly so does Fender(and a ton of other manufacturers). The Squier CV series has a great reputation for quality in its price range, and there a lots of good models all the way up through custom shop.

 

[Hounddog409]

It has been my understanding that producers and more importantly sound engineers want a passive bass so they can work their magic from there. I understand the old recording studios used this recording model like Motown and Stax. My music teacher went to a recording session with a real Michael Tobias bass and the engineer handed him a passive P Bass and said we don't record with active basses. Maybe that's where the issue lies? I don't know for sure............

sounds like a sound guy that needs more talent issue.

 

[Paulabass]

I'm assuming the oldest person in the band is 11.

 

[Hounddog409]

no one found the link?

 

[JW56789]

'People Hear with Their Eyes' has been proven to me. Not everywhere, but enough to know it's real.

 

[bopeuph]

In my years, the people who go on about brand names have no hiring power, anyway.

As a matter of fact, a souped-up Squier of mine caught a lot of hate on Reddit once, calling it a "polished turd." I was playing that polished turd when Martha Reeves said my playing reminded her of Jamerson, and that she loves my sound.

I made more money on that $400 investment than most of those kids probably will make at all as musicians.

 

[J Sudjian]

The video guy is great, it was a guy in the comments that said this.
To be clear, I’m not a noob or anything, I play well, I just like refreshing and watching bass videos. However After seeing multiple comments like that on Fender being wanted all the time by bands and producers I figured I would come here and you the family up.

thanks for your replies. If you scroll to Kyle Cs comment, the guy who said it is in that Conversation

 

[J Sudjian]

A Squier is not a Fender so you can't make an informed judgement. I own both Ibanez and Fender and prefer my Fender.

I’ve owned fenders

 

[Sascha Erni]

I experience a weird sort of brand-loyalty with various people – but almost never from bass players, or studio guys. All I’ve ever heard from bassists went on the lines of “if you like XY, perhaps give AB a shot”, sometimes more strongly phrased à la “I found XY to be too noisy / with not enough oomph / too tame / whatever, AB might be the better option”.

Where I found loads of opinionated brand, well, brandishing was mostly with guitar players and non-musicians. “Get a Fender”, naturally. When I received my Sandberg first reaction from a dear rock-music friend of mine was “you should have bought that Fender Duff McKagan bass instead”. Without having heard one or the other. And that exchange was quite typical, not for the person per se, but for loads of conversations I’ve had over the years.

The two new main culprits besides the Fender thing, at least for me, are “the only usable distortion comes from Darkglass”, and “why don’t you play Ampeg like the pros?”. It’s actually quite funny in a way. People I encounter who actually play (primarily) bass may have their preferences, but they all know it’s just that. Preference. I don’t have the foggiest where all that opinioning is coming from, from people who aren’t that much into bass to begin with.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

I ain't found nothing that beats my talman. Still looking though

 

[Nephilymbass]

So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

I’ve always thought that kind of talk was silly. I’ve played in bands consistently for 20 years. I didn’t bring a fender to a gig until 2019, and I didn’t even play it. It was just there as a backup. No one has ever asked me to play a fender

 

[somebrains]

There are 1911 owners who only want to see "Colt" and "45acp" rollmarks or they consider a pistol suspect junk.

Back in the day snobs wanted to see "IBM" on a computer or it was lesser quality junk.

Many people assume you are of lesser intelligence, economic status, moral standing, social class, etc if your phone is anything but the newest and biggest $ iPhone.

30 years ago these people wanted to see an alligator on your polo shirt or you/it was inferior in some manner.

My gfs hates it when I buy cheapie peanut oil to fry her fried chicken, she can't taste the diff. I just refill the $$ bottle with $ peanut oil.

 

[PastorZ]

Over the 20+ years that I've been playing I have owned (or still do) quite a number of great basses from Lakland, Carvin, Ernie Ball, MIA Fender and others. I could get great sounds from any of them and have used them many, many times on many stages and in studios. My American Deluxe P-Bass was my go to for a number of years (and it is a nice, predictable instrument), but when I got my hands on a Warwick Streamer it all changed. I still love and play several different brands, but for the last four years it's been Warwick for me - it's just got that distinctive "growl" that I love.
In the end it just comes down to personal preference. You can get nice instruments from most manufactures and can get usable sounds from most any bass. At the end of the day it's more about your ability as a musician than it is what you are playing on.

 

[Gizmot]

I know I'm in the minority here, but after playing a 60s Fender P bass, I switched to other brands and have never looked back.

I believe that I play better, sound better and I'm a lot more comfortable with other brands.

Currently, I'm playing Rics, a couple of G&Ls, a MusicMan and a German Warwick. I love them all!

I know there are other basses / brands that I would enjoy playing including Dingwall, Serek and Sadowsky.

I can state with confidence that I'll never own another Fender bass.

 

[Ellery]

So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

IMHO if you're worth your salt you can make almost anything usable. Strings, technique, eq, etc.... perhaps not achieving perfection but something that will work.

 

[dramatwist]

No one ever said anything about a bass I showed up with.

Many moons ago, when I was still focusing on guitar with my Ric 360, I went to a garage jam with an early tweed Fender Champ. Another guy came with a modern (at the time) big-a** Fender cab and a Dual Showman. After a couple of tunes, the dude said "You know what you should do with that amp?" I looked at him and he said... "See that trash can over there?"

Last time I saw one, the asking price was $1,200.00.