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Hating on anything but Fender

#141
First my main bass is an Ibanez sr 1300 which is sounding so good .There were times I went to try out some fenders in shop and got disappointed because non of the basses sound good to me.
I prefer modern basses with low weight and good ergonomic.Something I did not feel it with fender at all .
In 5 string fender is a big no for me .Kind of unplayable and chubby neck.

In my country most good bassist main bass is not fender .
Yamaha TRB has fan and boutique basses .
It's funny because fender has super powerful marketing here but still didn't change mind of the big names .



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#142
Back in mid 70's on Long Island there was a thriving Club/Bar Music scene with a boatload of Great Bands and Talent [played in 'B' level band 3 nights a week and personally made 400-600 a week 1974-79]
Anyway 90% of Bass Players in Top Bands used Fender Precisions a few Jazz. I wanted to be different so first I tried a Rick 4001, then Gibson EB-O?, next was Fender Telecaster Bass couldn't find sound/feel I wanted; So I broke down and bought a Fender Precision and there it was. [Playing what is now called Classic vinyl when it was New] Ibanez was considered cheap Japanese knockoffs back then; that was at least the perception so I never touched one. Most likely if I used anything other than Fender, Rick, Gibson, Gretch and a few I can't remember right now, I would have been dismissed and garner little respect no matter I well I played. Equipment was a big deal back then on how you were judged as a player and a band by Club owners and goers; also many fellow Musicians.
I heard a friend and fellow Bass Player play his Ibanez Premium through my amp and it sounded Great.
 
#143
Confession: I played a Yamaha once and I absolutely hated it. (As it turns out, it was a 5-string with wide spacing and that's what I mostly didn't like about it) For years, any time someone brought up Yamaha, I would dog that company based on my single experience with one specific model. Oh, how ignorant I was. :rollno: Years later, I gave them another chance and realized what absolutely awesome basses Yamaha makes. Enough so that I purchased a TRBX604 and it's one of my favorite players I've ever owned. I also avoided Fenders for a while. :bag: Prejudice is SO stupid! I like to think I've learned a few things since then and I don't ever want to fall into that kind of narrow-minded thinking again. A good bass is a good bass... PERIOD.
 
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Claymore said:
Confession: I played a Yamaha once and I absolutely hated it. (As it turns out, it was a 5-string with wide spacing and that's what I didn't like about it) For years, any time someone brought up Yamaha, I would dog that company based on my single experience with one specific model. Oh, how ignorant I was. :rollno: Years later, I gave them another chance and realized what absolutely awesome basses Yamaha makes. Enough so that I purchased a TRBX604 and it's one of my favorite players I've ever owned. I also avoided Fenders for a while. Prejudice is so stupid! I like to think I've learned a few things and I don't ever want to fall into that kind of thinking again. A good bass is a good bass... PERIOD.
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Try out yamaha trb5pii .
It explain what is Yamaha.
 
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#146
I have plenty of hate (or disgust) for Fender products. Anyone that tried to push one on me for a gig or anything else would watch me laugh my way out the door. I had a run of fender faux-pas a while back, so they rightly earned my ire. The last decent product they had that interested me was their neoprene/elastic straps, and they even found a way to eventually screw those up.
(Fender fanboys need not reply- my opinion is pretty resolute, you won't change my mind)
 
#149
I have a love/hate relationship with classic bass designs. On one hand, they're the most recorded basses ever and with good reason. They work well sonically for most every situation, but wow I cannot get along with some of the design choices. For example, the 20 fret neck with that big block heel just gah...WHY. I get it was easy to manufacture at the inception, but come on, so many bass manufacturers have figured out so many better designs that are far more ergonomic and include them on even their lowest level instruments.

I'm firmly in the camp of play what you want, but when someone else is cutting the check, they do get a say in what you play if it doesnt fit their ideal. I just dislike that if it isn't a Fender or similar, its guilty until proven innocent, instead of the other way around. This is something that I have personally experienced as well. I once got asked if I had a "proper" bass instead of a 5 string double humbucker bass (which was a Roscoe, might I add).

For what it's worth, most basses with two pickups in normal locations and standard-ish electronics can create a very usable, dare I even say perfect, tone for most situations, especially when outboard processing is taken into consideration. The "hearing-with-ones-eyes" just drives me insane as someone who doesnt gel with Fender style instruments.
 
#151
Bassdirty said:
Screw that noise.
It would be nice if people today could choose what they like instead of being "pressured" into what youtube says is cool. Then again, Its always been like that, if you didn't have the cool sneakers/accessories, you were a loser.

I've played in a few bands since 1999 (when I got my 1st Ibanez SR405.) Nobody ever questioned it. The 405 was the one that never got sold, but since 99, I've had the sr405,SR885,SR735?, sr505 and they all played perfectly like an Ibanez SR should. I've heard people say all sorts of different things like that "there is no Ibanez sound", or "that sterile Ibanez sound" or "clackey"(yes, because of 1 bass player from 1 band).. or "boomy bass" and everything in between. Yea, you'll hear many descriptions, as there are sooo many Ibanez players. and yea, a lot of beginners start on the low end (inexpensive) of Ibby basses. So lots of players think beginner bass=Ibanez. But guess what? they make very high quality professional bases as well. (you just don't see a lot of beginner youtube bassists makin vids with those models). And TONS of intermediate models.

AND, the Ibanez of today is waaay better than the great Ibanezs of yesteryear. Tone wise, I would choose any Ibanez SR505 (or higher) over ANY fender Jazz. While I do enjoy classic tones of a pbass, The Ibanez crushes a Fender Jazz Bass.

Playability? heck Ibanez crushes any fender. I LOVE the SR string spacing, but if people enjoy spacing where ya need to know the bus schedule to get from E to A, well Ibanez make SEVERAL other models besides the SR. I bet a lot of the IBBY haters didn't even know that. But, I digress.
YMMV of course..
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Totally with you on the string spacing. I sold an American made Deluxe Precision 5 string because of the spacing. My SR655 is just right and the Nordstrand pickups sound brilliant. It’s weird that people criticise Ibanez for not having their “sound” when there is not one single Fender sound, there are many.
 
#152
I play Fenders mostly, But I also have a MM Slo Special Stingray, Reverend Thundergun, Ibanez and Peavey. they're all great basses. Play what you like and enjoy. Sometime people talk crap to make their self feel better.
 
#153
I am 62 years on this earth. There was a time when people were nicer to each other than today's environment. I mean to say, on a personal level. Today, it is all about political affiliations that has poisoned our society. And that relates to the simple, personal decisions, such as the purchase of a particular instrument brand or model. I know I sound like I am painting with a broad brush. However, if you take a step backwards, take a deep breath, and think about what I have said, you might understand.


Back to your inquiry. Yes, the Fender Pbass and Jazz are iconic instruments relating to the history of music from the 50's to today. Many musicians swear by them. I am a Fender player for most applications. But I am not limited to them. I love Ibanez instruments for many varied sounds. I also own other instruments that most people would ridicule me for owning/playing. One example is my Rogue Beatle bass. Very inexpensive and nowhere near the build quality and provenance of the original Hofner. But I can tell you that in a blind test, most players can't tell the difference when recorded.


So, my recommendation to you is... screw all the haters. They don't matter. Find and play the instrument that lights your fire! Find your groove and never look back.
 
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#154
I've not experienced this. I have heard that recording engineers prefer the P or J. I imagine it's more an issue of passive vs active instruments. No one other than bass nerds has really ever commented on any of my guitars with the exception of the Steinberger, due to its unique shape, and I don't honestly think anyone ever judged the sound of my bass. My skill, on the other hand, has been judged many times ;).
 
#155
If I want a different sound, I'll start with my fingers. Technique has to be 90% and probably more. If that is not doing it, it's probably strings. Rounds or flats, not brands. As far as the sound of the actual bass goes, pickup style and placement makes the most audible difference. Followed by a rigid structure for sustain. I don't place a lot of stock in electronics. Although I did take the pre-amp out my Heartfield.

You don't need a Fender to have access to any of those parameters. And, without being a vastly experienced session player, I'd be willing to bet that if you have all the above under control, you won't lose the job over your weapon of choice. Have to assume it'd take far longer to get someone else in than to dial in a bass that's already in the ballpark.

If they specify a Fender over the phone, you'd be a fool not to bring one.
 
#156
You're SR505 is a super bass machine. Don't let someone else's jaded opinion sway you. When I was selling basses, those 505's were the nicest 5 string you could find for under a grand easily (and it most cases beyond).
Carpenters don't argue about hammers do they?
 
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#158
:roflmao::roflmao:
somebrains said:
Oh man, when I told her about the switch after a few months she near accused me of some nefarious motivations.

I'm just frying chicken and pork chops man.
Save a couple $ so I don't wince about her organic free range cruelty free avocados that are sung to by angels every sunrise and sunset, fed bottled water and vegan imported soil from Atlantis.
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I don’t care what the topic is here, this wins the Internet award today....:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
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