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Hating on anything but Fender

So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what
I've been playing quite regularly in many situations for 35 years and never even owned a Fender in that time, so I have absolutely no idea what you're even writing about, here.
 
Some people are just opinionated, could care less. I like Fenders, but can't stand the neck profile on their 5 strings, so just stopped playing them after several different jazz and precision attempts. Have never lost a gig for the bass I chose, which for me is Stingray and Roscoe 5's.

Play what you enjoy, forget the haters, as with any area of life:)

Peace
 
Couple things.....

thanks everyone first off.....

yes YouTube comments are normally crap, but lots of experienced sharp ppl comment as well so sometimes if something catches your ear, you do what I did and come here to get more opinions from ppl that will get called out fast for BS.

I don’t think the PPL HATE other brands, I know I used hating in my thread title, but I think they are trying to say certain bands, and engineers and producers always tend to want the standard P and Js maybe cuz they are lazy, but it seems that’s what more of these “ haters” are getting at, I’m not sure.

You guys have shined light on the subject, wasn’t against Bass brand qualities, more just about tone that recording studios and bands were after....you guys got more experience in studios and such than I so figured I would hit y’all up.

I’m 44 and played guitar all my life, I got anything from Hondos, Peaveys, and MIJ Strat from the 80s to A Les Paul and Telecaster........other odds and ends.......but I’ve played Bass for about 6 years and have loved and played many bass guitars. Wish I didn’t sell my 80s Jackson I played my metal stuff on that one, anyways, yeah I love my Ibanez, also dig my Squire VM Jazz with the DP123s and plane on getting a Stingray later and a few other wants.

my point though I don’t have experience Recording on bass or an actual live set other than jamming with the bands raw.

I’m definitely about playing what you love, but maybe that’s why I was curious about the comments I’ve heard multiple times about Fender always being preferred.........I love fender, there’s a few I’m certainly going to grab some day. I want another Fender P with flats right now badly. I just wanted to know the Basses I love are going to be worthy if I take it up a notch, or go meet recording engineers and such.

anyways, late.
 
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The one thing I agree with is that some of these other basses have too much tonal variety with active circuits. A passive P or j of any brand is just easier (IMO) to plug, play and get great tone.

See, for me, I haven't really experienced this. I always plug in an active bass with all of the eq controls at their center position which is what I assume is flat. And it's always worked for me. Then from there, I just eq based on the room or the particular style of tone that is suited for the song/band I am playing with. And please don't suggest that the battery is an issue because I have had a Stringray for over 2 years and never had to replace the battery.
 
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This video I think was taken to heart by many.

Yeah. I laughed the first time I saw that video. Title claims all session legends use P basses, video then includes information from one session bassist, and conveniently ignores the use of non-Fender active basses in the session (and live) work of people like Lee Sklar and Nathan East.

Not that I'm knocking Fender basses, but clearly they're not the only option.
 
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Fender basses are fine but so are other basses. It should be about the player not the tool. I played a Fender bass for many years but by choice I do not any longer. I don't choose or force my opinion of what instrument, brand or model other musicians should play why do they feel entitled to that to me? Because as a bass player my personal choice is less significant? I respect your and their choice of instrument, respect mine.
 
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So I was watchin some lessons on stuff on YouTube about tone and such, in the comments one guy says the most important lesson to learn is stick with Fender Jazz and P bass and don’t have the urge to be different by getting Ibanez or other.

That you will spend your entire life trying to please the band and get the right tones.


Then someone replied asking if he was talking about the Soundgears, that they don’t understand why anyone likes them.

Then more guys came on hating Ibanez like my SR505 which I love, also love my Jazz bass but what the heck

So I’m thinking of how many bands out there play Ibanez and other basses,there a countless, I’m looking at my SR505 like She is my baby lol, I also have a 4 string vintage modified jazz with dp123s in it, but I just love the Ibanez, well I love both.


What do you guys think about that hate, is it justified? Are we not past the”you gotta have a Fender to be in the band” stuff or what

I only read the very first post. 97.3% of manufacturers offer a precision or jazz bass sound. Hell , an Ibanez gio is a passive p+j setup.

having said that , I play exclusively Squier, Rickenbacker, Gibson, or vintage fenders (in that order)
 
Is it only me if you are listening to a bass comparison on youtube and they grab a fender that it sounds like a carbord compared with the rest?
If I listin to a fender video on itself they sound great (Jazz basses! Don't like P bass sound) but if you hold them against any other bass they sound so flat and lifeless... and don't forget the famous fender truss rod problems. they are such cheap quality.
 
See, for me, I haven't really experienced this. I always plug in an active bass with all of the eq controls at their center position which is what I assume is flat. And it's always worked for me. Then from there, I just eq based on the room or the particular style of tone that is suited for the song/band I am playing with. And please don't suggest that the battery is an issue because I have had a Stringray for over 2 years and never had to replace the battery.
When I started playing bass, I had no idea what the knobs did. I knew nothing about eq or what flat meant. Mixing to the room or for a particular band wasn’t something I realized people even did. but I could plug in my j bass, dime the knobs and start playing. Passive is simpler than active, no logic will defeat that.
 
Yeah. I laughed the first time I saw that video. Title claims all session legends use P basses, video then includes information from one session bassist, and conveniently ignores the use of non-Fender active basses in the session (and live) work of people like Lee Sklar and Nathan East.

Not that I'm knocking Fender basses, but clearly they're not the only option.

To Sean Hurley's credit he does describe his world as a "pocket of LA" so I suspect he has no illusions about Fender's relevance in the greater scheme of things. That said, it's a very elite pocket that many would emulate.
 
I remember that too! That’s one of the ones I’m talkin about too, so are active Basses not wanted in recording? Bet they don’t tell Marcus that.

Geez...ONE (1) guy in a studio somewhere said that.

ONE (1) commenter made an idiotic comment in a YouTube video.

A FEW producers over the years expressed preference for a certain bass.

And we have NINE (9) pages of comments and angst over it (including and especially from me, I admit, nay, proclaim)...

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