• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Headless Club???

MovinTarget, BruceWane, sonojono thank you all for your replies. I think I will stick to the standard at first, and think about changes later, because it seems to be a lot more complicated than I imagined.

Wouldn't this be like the Les Paul wiring? Does the problem occur on Les Pauls too, or does the switch change something?

I will keep this in mind!

Just remember, most wiring jobs are ONE.BIG.CIRUIT. Unless you add a lot of extra work, it will always be one circuit so nothing is truly isolated, I think that's why that load-free portion above is relevant. Switches can help, but they are often really just routing current on different paths (or combinations of paths) on the same circuit.

I think I have that right...
 
  • Like
Reactions: lazybone
Wouldn't this be like the Les Paul wiring? Does the problem occur on Les Pauls too, or does the switch change something?

Les Pauls do have the same issue. It's just the nature of passive electronics; in a passive circuit, there's no way to really isolate individual components. So they're always interacting in ways you wouldn't anticipate. It's this kind of stuff that leads to some of the "magic" things that players have learned over the years, like having bridge pickup full and backing off the volume of the neck pickup of a jazz bass very gradually until the sound "opens up" - this is not just the volume control affecting tone, it's the interaction of the neck and bridge pickup impedances, how they load each other.
 
I just found this Invalid Link Removed
They have a sell-out on Warwick Double Balls 5 (sadly the fifth string is the high one) and 6 String
sets for really little money. Shipping in Germany is free when you spend more than 50€. Sadly the only way to see what shipping might cost, seems to be registering or asking them directly.
 
This is my newly aquired Spirit XT-25. Sounds almost active, and different than my 4 string Spirit.
20190705_104049.jpg
 
I hate the Overlord of Music headpiece... so hopefully these will be a cost effective alternative...
Headless Electric Bass Guitar String Nut Set Guitar Instrument Accessories H1 | eBay

Yes, I know its just more Chinese pot metal, but at least I can set the spacing and not have to cut weird shapes in the neck to make them fit like the OoM headpiece...

Also, as always, I'll be trying to replace the screws/hex nuts with (hopefully) higher quality hardware because nothing says JOY! like a screw head snapping during final assembly...
 
As an eBay Associate, TalkBass may earn a commission from qualifying purchases.
I hate the Overlord of Music headpiece... so hopefully these will be a cost effective alternative...
Headless Electric Bass Guitar String Nut Set Guitar Instrument Accessories H1 | eBay

Yes, I know its just more Chinese pot metal, but at least I can set the spacing and not have to cut weird shapes in the neck to make them fit like the OoM headpiece...

Also, as always, I'll be trying to replace the screws/hex nuts with (hopefully) higher quality hardware because nothing says JOY! like a screw head snapping during final assembly...

There's no way in the world I would touch those. Something that small needs to be precision machined out of high quality material. If you go there I predict despair.

Have you looked at the Nova headless system? It's also available via eBay, but looks to be much higher quality.
 
As an eBay Associate, TalkBass may earn a commission from qualifying purchases.
  • Like
Reactions: sonojono
There's no way in the world I would touch those. Something that small needs to be precision machined out of high quality material. If you go there I predict despair.

Have you looked at the Nova headless system? It's also available via eBay, but looks to be much higher quality.

for $10 I'll give them a whirl... I wish I know how to make them myself... they are inherently such simple little pieces...
 
They're a ripoff of ABM: Invalid Link Removed

I bought a few from ABM, but was disappointed to discover that the ball-end retainer is ever so slightly too small for my D'Addarios... :crying:
 
They're a ripoff of ABM: Invalid Link Removed

I bought a few from ABM, but was disappointed to discover that the ball-end retainer is ever so slightly too small for my D'Addarios... :crying:

...which always seem to be out of stock...

See? Mine will have an instant advantage that I can just bend them to fit!!! :D :D :D /facepalm

Just kidding... I hope... lol

I will post my experience for good or ill, I am making two necks so if I bork one, I have a backup... I can always fall back on the OoM headpiece...
 
  • Like
Reactions: ctmullins
FWIW, just rec'd a Steinberg Spirit to go with my 4 Hohners and 1 Cort.

Initial impression is that the bridge is different with stainless steel round saddles vs. the black inverted "V"s on the others. This has the drop D tuner, so mebbe that's why?

Low, low action, too.

I may report back after I've played it a while ...

Gratz on the new acquisition!
 
  • Like
Reactions: vvvmmm