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Help, please! Fake Precision??

Well, the OP never said how much the seller was asking or what he was thinking about trading for it. And who knows what his (the OPs) economic circumstances are. Maybe the price of a real Squier VM is more than he can afford. The $250 figure was mentioned by another poster. I wouldn't pay that much for it either. If it was closer in price to an SX, say $125 or less and local I'd suggest he check it out at least.

Maybe I'm just not aware of it but I don't think the Japanese ever actually branded any of the so-called "lawsuit" basses and guitars with the Fender logo, did they? They just copied the basic design as far as I know.
 
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It's exactly what he says it is- a squier vintage modified with changed decals, including the serial number. The neck plate is not original either.

Yeah after looking at this on a proper computer screen (I was using my Ipad earlier) I have to agree with everyone else and say this definitely isn't even a Squier. I also agree with the guy suggesting a Matt Freeman instead!
 
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I knew i was gonna get some good answers from you, guys!

Here's the thing, recently i traded a guitar i didn't use anymore (Jackson Dinky) for a Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar V. The Jaguar is pretty much brand new. I just don't like it being 5 stringed and Active... so I wanted to trade it for another Squier Vintage Modified, specifically a Precission Bass, which is the sound i want....

That's why there was no "real" budget, and that's why I came across this guy who was selling this Bass and willing to accept a guitar or a bass in exchange. The first thing I noticed was that it looks just as "brand new" as my Jaguar and obviously the added parts.

I believed what he said, a Squier with Fake Fender Decals, a Fender Corona plate....but then i saw the Serial number decal, honestly i've never seen myself fake serial number decals...that's what got me suspicious haha and that's why I started researching about it....

I also came across a very similar bass, Univox Precision Basses...but the neck doesn't match either....

Any more guesses or thoughts on this, guys?? What do you think i should ask??? THANKS A LOT!!!
 
Good catch. I just noticed the same thing. The neck is not associated with Fender or Squier in any way with the fret board extension like that, and how the trussrod access is. The front decal isn't even a good fake!

Totally agree, look how the italicization "sweeps" around between the words "PRECISION BASS."

Also compare the headstock shape to a real Fender/Squier. Nope!

Wash with gas, dry with match. Or profit by extorting the seller. Just kidding. :)
 
We couldn't even go ONE DAY without one of these threads! I guess my two week pledge is safe.

Can I get an amen from the chorus?
Amen --- we are doing good works here-- counterfeits are what they are-- I owned a Rolodex Watch from Mexico (made in China) hey for 15.00USD it was better looking than the timex or Casio calculator watch i was wearing at the time.
I can go to any swap meet and get any # of poorly made but functional Counterfeits on the cheap of any product i want. Go to any concert-- there are guys outside selling Logo'd shirts and other Band swag and people are buying it by the truckload...

Counterfeiting, like or not is DRIVEN by "label snobbery" I see BMW and Mercedes hubcaps on Hondas...i believe a fool and his money are soon parted---
If i make up a pearlescent butterfly sticker and stick it on my bass a fedora it does not make.

Counterfeit products have existed as long as the "brand name" has existed-
it is now as it has always been--- buyer beware.

Summary-- fender stickers intended to fool someone-- for shame. Fender headstock sticker for vanity (i pity you)
Fender sticker on a POS you ain't fooling no-one

Everyone needs to get the "world police" mentality out of their heads.... this has been going on longer than we have been alive-- fakery-- it doesn't make it right-- but no amount of "justifiable indignance" is going to make it go away---
E bay tries but how many " Jaco played this bass once and i traded XXX with him for it" scam show up? continually? you cannot stop the RickenFakers, Frenders, the Gibsun les pauls, from being made or sold-- history proves it's here to stay, and that people don't care--- enough.

anyone who REALLY thinks they are getting a Fender custom shop for 300.00 is a fool (or it's a stolen item and they don't care!) you decide where the problem lies.
 
It's definately a fake. The heel of the neck is the biggest giveaway. If it weren't for the flat heel neck I would have thought it were a Frankensquier bass made with a Vintage Modified Fretless body and an Affinity neck, with plenty of Fender stickers and chrome slapped on it for good measure.
 
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I can understand the rationale for spending $400 on a nicely-finished counterfeit Les Paul Gold top.

But $250 for a wholly inaccurate Frankenfender? As someone suggested above, buy a used MIM for $300 and put a $20 pickup cover on it.
Play it for several years and it will still be worth more or less $300. Whereas with the fake, flipping it will depend on your finding a sucker or chump.
 

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