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Highschool female westler wins by forfeit

See, here's what I'm thinkin' - this gal and a guy wrestler are wrestling a match...writhing around trying to pin each other to the mat. He's grabbing her every which way, she's doing the same...how long is it going to take before this gal's dad starts screaming "He's touching her inappropriately!!!".. I don't know, maybe I'm just over-thinking this, but with the hair-trigger sexual harassment culture we have I would be really hesitant to let my son go up against a gal if he were wrestling. I'd be telling him "be careful where you grab her" etc. Which would probably propagate enough second-guessing for him to lose the match automatically...
meh, just call me paranoid

My thoughts EXACTLY! Too many things to think about when you're wrestling a girl for sport. Hundreds of eyes on you, doing your absolute best not to touch anywhere that may cause issues, and everyone including the ref judging every move you make? I can imagine that being overwhelming.
 
He got screwed over? He made a choice.

He joined a coed wrestling program and then decided not to participate, in no way did he get "screwed," and his "religious beliefs" most certainly should not have been taken into account by anyone other than himself.

Sorry for lack of clarification. I was meaning in the fact that he got placed to fight her. In no way or form did he know that he was going to have to fight a girl.

His religious beliefs (which no one can factor out) did make him chose to not to fight (obvious) and I'm not denying that at all. Guys should never have to fight girls in that form; it's just not right. This all is IMO. So please don't try to tell me I'm wrong when it's my opinion (I've not hinted that thought towards you), and please don't try to make religious beliefs a "quotation" word.
 
When I was in high school there weren't girls water polo teams. So we used to get matched up with teams that had girls on them. I used to know a lot of these girls from swimming. We all grew up playing grab@$$ with each other. Well, they were all docile and coy during swim practice but they were ruthless with their underwater game. When guarding against another guy there's an unspoken understanding that the jewels were off limits when battling underwater. Kidney shots with the knees, elbows in the rib, and the occasional head butt were all and acceptable part of the game, but no one ever went for the balls on purpose. If a dude hit another dude in the nuts it meant all out war. Someone was going home to pee blood. So if an occasional grape got grazed it was usually an accident followed by a very heartfelt and sincere apology. But the chicks never played by any such understanding. It was ALL fair game to them. Some of these chicks were ejected quite regularly for making the player they were guarding scream in agony.

But a few of them got off on playing rough. It was very common for standard underwater jabs to turn into a full on grope session with a mean flavor. But the worse was my friend Kari, who later went on to marry a buddy of mine. She was ripped with double-D gigantors and she would reach right down your suit and latch on. Well we were playing a varsity game my sophomore year and her junior year and because she was a fast swimmer I was usually put on the task of guarding her because being that I was the sprinter for the team I was pretty much the only one that could keep up with her.

I remember it distinctly. It was the fourth quarter and it was getting down to the wire. She had her hand down my suit and I had my hand down hers. This was beyond nipple twists, this was all out war. She wasn't letting go, and when the ball was passed to me, she promptly inserted her finger right up my starfish. Because I had the ball, I didn't have a free hand to manage the situation. She had it jammed right past the monkey knuckle. It was like kryptonite. Suddenly I had no strength. I just has this weird uncomfortable tingling numbess that just sapped any kind of muscle strength I had left in my body. It was like that feeling when your foot goes to sleep but over your whole body. I managed to weakly toss the ball inside, and broke free, but it was game on. She we both got a few fingers for the rest of the quarter and it was ugly. The final minute my team was up by one point and they had possession. We were locked in a vicious game of uncle. I'm pretty sure she was using just one finger but it felt like a fist and I know that I also had multiple digits committed the cause. We were staring each other eye to eye and trying not to let the other person see tears of agony. The game ended, they didn't score, and we went our separate ways. But for the rest of our lives since then we have always shared that moment, even if it was nothing more than occasional head lift to say 'I'm watching you'. We both knew that we had thoroughly violated each other and somewhere in there we had earned a deep mutual respect for each other. Saw her last year and we had a moment where we both passed each other in the kitchen. Neither one of us would let each other see our backs, just in case. We laugh about it now, but we still sleep with one eye open.
 
Wrestling is a sport, not a "fight." This kid's "religious belief" is that he should deny a female the chance to participate on an equal footing in the coed sport that he willingly chose to sign up for. His "religious belief" is insulting and inappropriate in modern culture whether he believes a God wishes it so or not. And I will continue to place "religious belief" in quotations because I believe it to be the appropriate representation of the phrase.
 
Wrestling is a sport, not a "fight." This kid's "religious belief" is that he should deny a female the chance to participate on an equal footing in the coed sport that he willingly chose to sign up for. His "religious belief" is insulting and inappropriate in modern culture whether he believes a God wishes it so or not. And I will continue to place "religious belief" in quotations because I believe it to be the appropriate representation of the phrase.

Funny how you talk about modern culture and people being on an even footing, but you don't give this kid the same level of respect.
 
I show respect until given reason not to, being a poor sport and refusing to compete against females due to "religious beliefs" is not a respectful position to take.

Oh I see. You're open minded until you find some one who disagrees with you, then you hold them in contempt based on your own personal beliefs.

That's not at all hypocritical.
 
To be fair, religion has caused more than enough problems in the world, and many people's "religious beliefs" may not be worthy of respect.

No one's doubting that. But a lot of it has to do with mutual respect. I have my religious beliefs (notice no quotations), but yet I'm not going to go bash someone just because their Hindu, or Agnostic, or Buddhist.


Funny how you talk about modern culture and people being on an even footing, but you don't give this kid the same level of respect.


+1
 
Oh I see. You're open minded until you find some one who disagrees with you, then you hold them in contempt based on your own personal beliefs.

That's not at all hypocritical.

Stop putting words in my mouth with your silly post-modern BS. Where did I say I was "open minded" about other people's beliefs? Yeah, I didn't, but go ahead and just build that strawman anyhow.

Not all beliefs are equal, the belief that the world is flat does not deserve respect, the belief that slamming a plane into a skyscraper reserves a spot for you in shangri la does not deserve respect, and neither does the concept that women are inferior to men and should be treated as such.

How about if it was a black kid, and his "religious belief" was that you don't ever interact with "people of mixed blood?" Would it have been unfair for them to pit the kid against a black kid, since it went against his religious beliefs? Would it be inappropriate for me not to "respect" that decision as well?

How about a gay kid?

directed towards the thread in general: the "sexual harassment" argument some of you are making is ridiculous. this girl wrestles on the team just like the boys, she made it to "state" so clearly she's got some experience. what exactly makes you think that any male wrestler on that team couldn't make the exact same sexual harassment charge against the other player? why does it have to be a female to all of a sudden be a concern?