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History Channel - Vikings

Boom 762 and Mike, did you guys read some where that he has a kidney infection? Is that in his saga maybe??

My dad watches the show as well and he is in the medical profession. I figured he would have a blown kidney but my dad was saying he likely ruptured one by his symptoms. Sickness would also come from Uriah poisoning the same way a dialysis patient can go.

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History channel won't get rid of Ragnar yet. Certain things have to happen before he goes. He had a very specific death and it was hinted at in the first season.
 
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Season four prediction: Floki and Ragnar make amends by Ragnar submitting to Floki performing Viking rituals on him to cure his sickness/ailment. This fortifies in Floki's mind Ragnars commitment to the Viking gods, and they are all buddies again. Then in a show of confidence to Floki, Ragnar lets Floki lead a raid on Wessex to kill Aethelwulf when Aethelwulf tries to kill Kwenthwrith who is carrying Ragnar's child.

-Mike
 
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I predict season 4 will do a time warp after a few episodes like season 2 did. I think they will fast forward to a point where all of Ragnar's sons are born and at least teenagers. I think it will be the last time we see much of Rolo as well. Maybe a small 30 second scene towards the end.
 
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If the last episode didn't convince Floki that Ragnar is way smarter than he is and dedicated to the Viking way of life then he's an idiot, and I believe the character is intended to be very intelligent (if a little off kilter). Rollo may even play along with the French in much the same way; he's not as shrewd as Ragnar, but I'm sure he's smart enough to learn from him.
 
If the last episode didn't convince Floki that Ragnar is way smarter than he is and dedicated to the Viking way of life then he's an idiot, and I believe the character is intended to be very intelligent (if a little off kilter). Rollo may even play along with the French in much the same way; he's not as shrewd as Ragnar, but I'm sure he's smart enough to learn from him.


I don't know why but I have a feeling Rollo is going to look at this offer from the French as his chance to finally get out from under Ragnar. We know Rollo bears the offspring that leads to William the Conquerer so he may very well take this offer from that twit of a Frankish king seriously and fight his brethren when they go back to Paris. I wonder how Ragnar is going to deal with the whole thing that happened in Wessex. The plot thickens!
 
SPOILER ALERT!

If we were to look at actual events, we would find that Rollo goes on to become the first Duke of Normandy, and a popular one at that:
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Ragnar winds up being cast into a pit of snakes, betrayed and killed by king Aella of Northumbria:
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While researching a possible trip to Ireland, where Vikings is filmed, I came across this tidbit:
According to actor Clive Standen (Rollo), future seasons may feature characters such as Alfred the Great, Leif Ericson, and Ivar the Boneless, as well as travels to Iceland, Russia, France, and across the Atlantic.

-Mike
 
I looked into a lot of the historical stuff back in season one. We won't know if Michael Hirst is going to stick to exact history or not. So far he hasn't totally stuck to it. There is all kinds of info about Ragnar and the snake pit, also of Ragnar having a terrible case of diarrhea and dying from that. I would guess the snake pit at the hands of Aella would be better television that him dying of the craps but we shall see! I was hoping that was not where his current illness was going but i think it makes sense that he has some other kind of infection from the blow his back took on his tumble down the parapet.

Love the shot of the Rollo statue Petrus thanks for posting that!!!
 
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Huh, seeing this thread revived. I did eventually get season 1 on Netflix and watched a few episodes into season 2 before a scratched disk sabotaged me. By that time I was losing interest.

To their credit, they are (or were) trying to piece together a modern TV plot line out of historical sources. I could recognize where they got various bits from. But it was a hodgepodge of stuff from wildly different sources that don't really all belong together, and the final result was stitched together like Frankenstein's monster. The plot premise they built the whole first season around, that no Scandinavian had ever sailed west to Britain or France before and it was all a huge risk and gamble whether there really were legendary lands there - that was absurd. The Sutton Hoo burial shows Scandinavian influence in Britain already in the 6th century, 200 years before the Viking era, and Gregory of Tours reports a raid by a Danish king Chlochilaich (the Hygelac of Beowulf) around the same time. The king's burial scene (with the slave girl being sacrificed and all that) comes from the Arab writer Ibn Fadlan describing the Rus. Ibn Fadlan's account is problematic in lots of ways (he may have confused Rus and Bulgars in his notes) and there's no evidence of any such practice (other than the ship burial aspect) in any other source or archaeological find. The English king who wore his crown around on a daily basis as though it were a baseball cap was rather amusing too.

The notion of "shield maidens" among the Vikings is also problematic. We have a tendency to imagine past societies as some sort of feminist paradise, and movie studios need to find a way to work female characters in, so they make the most of even the slightest hints. But the only references to such persons are in mythological sources, not historical ones. If there had been women among the Vikings burning monasteries, you can bet the Christian chroniclers of the time would have harped on it - and none do. There has been a bit of a flurry recently over interpretation of burials. Burials used to be classified as male or female based on grave goods - swords and spears mean male, spindles and jewelry mean female. But there's been more forensic work lately looking at the actual bones, and it turns out that grave goods are not as gendered as used to be thought. There are quite a few females buried with weapons. However, it's unlikely that makes them "shieldmaidens" who actually used weapons in life. It more likely means that weapon burial was a mark of status, not gender, and those women came from warrior-class families.

I hate being the nitpicky historian tearing these things apart. A good story is a good story, and they definitely did better than past efforts at Viking movies, like that godawful Kirk Douglas one. But it seems like they tried to position this one as realistic and carefully researched, and I'm afraid on that front what I saw didn't pass muster.
 
I'm also surprised that the King didn't send the gold payoff to the Vikings after it had been handled by those dying of plague; I would have thought that he (or the Princess and the Count) would have wanted to take advantage of the devastating effects of plague of that time since the Vikings would have no way to defend against it...especially considering that the French military force seems to rely far too much on the combination of it's high walls and ranged weapons to effectively fight hand-to-hand with the Vikings.

Grrr...how long do we have to wait for the next season?!

Necrothread reply...

Plague is transmitted via infected fleas, not gold...

Also, the concept of disease being transmittable via contact probably hadn't been thought of yet...
 
I watched the first episode twice.
Interesting start to the season, jumping right into the heavy storylines right away.

Leading with Bjorn looking like he was filling in for Ragnar, arresting Floki, the map he found and how intrigued he was with it, then announcing he was wandering off into the wilderness felt odd and out of place to me. I didn't like it.

Eerie how Ragnar called out Rollo to Bjorn. I think Ragnar won't be surprised to know what Rollo did. I sort of feel like Rollo is setting up the French though. I'm not sure how this plays out. Maybe Rollo does turn his back on his people again.

I really like Lagertha, but this storyline just feels like an add-on. Maybe she can run off Aslaug and reunite with Ragnar.

-Mike