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Hit Me with your Fav Dirt

Apr 22, 2016
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TL/DR: Tell me your fav dirt pedals for bass with a brief why. I'm considering swapping out one or both of my current ones.

What I got:
I have a Wren & Cuff Tall Font Russian (sovtek, pre-civil war green muff clone) and a Smallsound/Bigsound Frik Mini (jfet overdrive)

Why change these?
These pedals are great, but neither are quite hitting the sweet spots I'm looking for from.
  • The TFR is maybe too gritty, angular for what I'm thinking - I'm looking for a big buttery, saturated fuzz I think.
  • The SSBS mini handles low freq well, but maybe is just a tad more fuzzy than I want - my straight dirt is tricky because I'd like it to keep the lows pushing through, while sparking up the mids a bit.

What am I doing?
Thing is my amp (Verellen Meatsmoke) has a great orange-ish overdriven channel all on it's own, so I'm looking for specific variations to hit the "clean" (70s SVT style) channel with. I don't want to override the character too much, but also want to get some solid grit as describe above on demand.

What you got?
 
As of late my fav dirt isn't a dirt pedal at all, but is the square wave on my EQD Data Corrupter. It's grainy and lush and meaty all at the same time. It just sounds so mean when I engage it. I'll put it a tiny touch of slapback delay on it and get this stadium filling drive that is just so satisfying.
 
Darkglass Microtubes X Ultra: I use this as my "amp" and it's great for getting Chris Squire/Geddy Lee tones.

Idiotbox Blower Box: Rat variant with an active EQ that I love at lower gains for a grindy/clanky tone and stacks nicely run into the Microtubes X for some thicker metal type of tone

John K Civil War Mini Big Muff: It's a big muff that loses no lows and sounds great at virtually any setting
 
My advice for you is either check out Fuzzrocious or Source Audio. IMHO @rratajski is the master of cooking up saturation that cuts through density and he can whip up something special just for you if you give him the right input.

Source Audio Aftershock or Ultrawave can give you the tools to design your own sound to support, blend perfectly or dominate any mix if you are brave enough to tackle the tools.

I have my collection of fuzz that I still love and use some simply for admittedly sentimental reasons others simply because I have them and like the sounds.
 
Darkglass Microtubes X Ultra: I use this as my "amp" and it's great for getting Chris Squire/Geddy Lee tones.

Idiotbox Blower Box: Rat variant with an active EQ that I love at lower gains for a grindy/clanky tone and stacks nicely run into the Microtubes X for some thicker metal type of tone

John K Civil War Mini Big Muff: It's a big muff that loses no lows and sounds great at virtually any setting
Second rec for the Idiotbox Blower Box. Def gonna check
 
My advice for you is either check out Fuzzrocious or Source Audio. IMHO @rratajski is the master of cooking up saturation that cuts through density and he can whip up something special just for you if you give him the right input.

Source Audio Aftershock or Ultrawave can give you the tools to design your own sound to support, blend perfectly or dominate any mix if you are brave enough to tackle the tools.

I have my collection of fuzz that I still love and use some simply for admittedly sentimental reasons others simply because I have them and like the sounds.

I keep gravitating towards the Fuzzrocious pedals. Friend was suggesting the Ram the Manparts, unfortunately it's discontinued and costs a bit more used.
 
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I keep gravitating towards the Fuzzrocious pedals. Friend was suggesting the Ram the Manparts, unfortunately it's discontinued and costs a bit more used.

If you like RTM, the drive/distortion sounds are in Playing Mantis. I'm available via email if you wanna talk more - [email protected].
 
Got to be my Joyo Orange Juice (seriously sized down clone of the now discontinued Tech 21 Oxford, which is an analog emulation of an Orange amp type preamp/drive, with simplified EQ controls compared to the original to accommodate it's miniature size) for all from low gain, somewhat grindy, tube like grid, to medium gain, really clanky and grinding, distortion, perfect for that JJ Burnel tone.

Currently I use it for the former, a low gain overdrive, contributing with some Orange-esque grind and tube like grid, mixed in parallel, and in about equal amounts, via one of my Boss LS-2 pedal form effect loops switch/mixer, with a Behringer BEQ700 Bass Graphic Equalizer (clone of Boss GEB-7), dialed in with some quite subtle EQ adjustments (basically just boosting the 120Hz, 400Hz and 800Hz band something like +2dB or so), for my main always on basic "clean" tone, which I guess could possibly, as one way to described it, be categorized as a somewhat more polite and polished/Hi-Fi take on JJ Burnel's tone.

And for high gain distortion it got to be my Mosky Black Rat, RAT clone.

Love that really raunchy fuzz-esque high gain distortion tones that you can get from Rat based pedals, and not just for bass, sounds awesome for guitar as well.

Currently I use the Black Rat in "Vintage", classic Rat, silicon, I think (or might be germanium), diode clipping mode, dialed in to a relatively high gain setting and a relatively dark tone, and mixed in parallel, via my other Boss LS-2, with another Orange Juice, set to a lower medium gain overdrive, stacked into a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone, dialed in with a relatively low gain setting, the Orange Juice together with the relatively low gain setting preventing the Metal Zone getting into the fizzy territory that is infamous for, and giving it a slightly more crunchy/grindy character, together providing more top end to my high gain distortion tone, and with it's lower gain at the same time bringing more articulation and definition to it, though I plan to soon replace the Boss LS-2 for an EHX Switchblade Pro Deluxe to be able to blend in a slight bit of clean signal as well, to improve articulation and definition further.

Also planing on soon acquiring a Joyo Extreme Metal (EHX Metal Muff clone) to give it a shot to see if it can possibly replace the Orange Juice+Metal Zone combo side of my high gain distortion setup, even if I am actually really satisfied with my current high gain distortion tone, which if I should do an attempt at describing it would be something like: massively heavy, monstrously ballsy and sludgy, with a really raunchy character and a quite fuzz-esque and fairly gnarly quality.

For fuzz it's my Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz (Boss FZ-2 clone, which again is a take on the legendary Univox Super Fuzz octave fuzz circuit), used in the mids heavy "Mode 1" and mixed with clean signal via the same Boss LS-2 that I use for my high gain distortion.

But while I think the Behringer Super Fuzz actually is a truly great sounding fuzz for bass, and not just for the ridiculously little money it goes for, I do ponder on weather at some point possibly replacing it for an Orange Fur Coat, which in my opinion sounds no short of amazing, and awesomely gnarly, for bass, and which is an octave fuzz as well, though unlike the Behringer (and the Boss it is a clone of), which as said is a modified take on the Univox Super Fuzz circuit, rather is a modified take on the Foxx Tone Machine, with an added level control for the fuzzy analog octave up signal, which turned down makes the Fur Coat sound even more gnarly than it already is and less synth-ish than the Behringer Super Fuzz, which produce more of a somewhat synth-ish and spluttering-ish, really crispy kind of fuzz tone.
 
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Boss BB-1x works for me. It keeps lows very good, has an effective 2-band EQ and I can dial in amount of dirt as I want (simple blend+drive) without being harsh or (over)fuzzed(?) :wacky: The dirt itself is very organic, warm and full.
I'm using SVT-3PRO + SVT610HLF so BB-1x only serves me to complement the overall sound and add even more natural tube like saturation.
 
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Dirt is probably the most subjective "effect" out there IMHO. That being said, Tech 21 DP-3X is my fav.

Like anything else, it's not for everybody, but I love it. And being a Tech 21 product, the quality and support (if you were you to need it) are 2nd to none.
 
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I have the same exact dirt pedals than the OP. First I use an always on Barbershop. It is my magic weapons to add some harmonics to fuller the tone. As for OD, I use either BS/SS Mini or Fifth Gear depending if I play the Fender or Ric. On the fuzz side, I have a TFR and BS/SS TAFM. I have done a/b with a few other pedals before ending with it. However, all of them are going through a Wounded Paw Blender to keep the low end. This last is maybe the missing piece for the OP. I would say that Wren&Cuff and BS/SS are making outstanding dirt pedals. IMHO.
 
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