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How LOUD is a Rumble 500c + 2x10
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OP said Rumble 500c + the Rumble 210 extension. The combo has a 210 already, so it is a 410. I have sub-gigged with this setup (not mine was the guitar player's) in SoCal with 2 guitar players. Twin and Mesa Boogie Mark V combo. My friend was the drummer. He is young but probably not crazy loud, material was pop rock. But the master volume on the bass never went past 12 o'clock without PA support.
Looking at the other replies, it seems that people do not read the OP properly.
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I found the 500c more than loud enough in a 5 piece rock band on its own, so an extra 2x10 cab would make it very loud. That being said, if I were to buy a rumble rig again, I would go with the Fender 800HD and a pair of 2x10's.
I used my rumble 500 in a hard rock band, competing against a heavy handed drummer and guitarists with a fender twin & Peavey 5150. I had to turn it up 3/4 the way, but it kept up.
There is the part in the OP that also mentions two 100 watt guitar amps.
Depending on the skill of the operators of those amps, they will have an effect on how well the 500c and an additional 2x10 will perform in this scenario.
OP here,
Thank you everyone for the replies, even the ones with a bit of snark thrown in. Lol. (All good)
Think I’m going to error on the side of too much power rather than “should be enough”.
Already found a couple of minty GK Neo 4x10’s at a great price. (Yes, some like them some don’t) 800 watts & 70lb each, I’ll be alright…
Now I’m on the hunt for the right head to push them.
Thanks again everyone. I’ll report on my findings, good or bad.
All the best!
Thank you everyone for the replies, even the ones with a bit of snark thrown in. Lol. (All good)
Think I’m going to error on the side of too much power rather than “should be enough”.
Already found a couple of minty GK Neo 4x10’s at a great price. (Yes, some like them some don’t) 800 watts & 70lb each, I’ll be alright…
Now I’m on the hunt for the right head to push them.
Thanks again everyone. I’ll report on my findings, good or bad.
All the best!
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A 410 set up is more than what most people need, normally. If your band is really that loud, you won't get called back. But, you'll also need 810s. Or, 412s. But, 810s
That will give you 500 watt of course.
There is more value in buying 2x500C which will give you 700w plus built in redundancy.
Or go for the 800W
I had the stylish Rumble 500W 210 with the 115 cabinet. It’s loud as would be expected, but I find the Rumbles muddled and raspy no matter the settings, and quickly choke when Gain and Master are pushed.
Yep, and that's the point I was making to the OP earlier in the thread...running the gain "high" on the Rumble is the mistake most folks make, and it leads people to believe the amp itself has a raspy/muddy tone. The "gain" on the Rumble acts more like an "input pad" you would find on most other amps...you really only need it to adjust the input level for a particular bass, or to adjust between active or passive basses (except when you engage the overdrive, then its function changes). The gain knob on my Rumble stays around 8 or 9 o'clock. I just use the master to bring the b@lls! My Spectors and Cirrus's sound beautiful thru it.
The Invalid Link Removed is what you need. Being stable at 2 ohms it can handle two of the 4 ohm 410s, or four of the 8 ohm 410s! 800 watts into 16 x 10s oughta blast out those guitarists, drummer and a few walls!
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Ooooo... good point!The Invalid Link Removed is what you need. Being stable at 2 ohms it can handle two of the 4 ohm 410s, or four of the 8 ohm 410s! 800 watts into 16 x 10s oughta blast out those guitarists, drummer and a few walls!
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If those are 4-ohm cabs, that needs to be considered.
I really depends on what "100W guitarist" means. If they're both playing Marshall half or full stacks to full potential, no. It won't be enough. If these are 100W combos and they aren't diming them, you may be all right.
The Invalid Link Removed is what you need. Being stable at 2 ohms it can handle two of the 4 ohm 410s, or four of the 8 ohm 410s! 800 watts into 16 x 10s oughta blast out those guitarists, drummer and a few walls!
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This seems like an attractive option to me, given that you could mix and match cabs later as needed, or bring whatever you need for a particular night depending on the room. I also like the option to just bring the head and use the cab du jour as well.
I was under the impression that OP was talking about a 2x10 combo stacked on a 2x10 combo. Both the combo and the matching cab are pretty efficient.
I use a rumble 500 combo on an amp stand for practice in a smallish room with much the same band dynamics and the combo holds its own no problem. For live gigs with or without pa support I add a rumble 2x10 cab and stack it...it is plenty loud enough. 4 10's should work anywhere unless you're playing arena sized stages...get the rumble stack it's light and loud.
Yeah, my wording was not very clear, in hindsight. I mean that a single 210 is not going to be enough, whether it's head+cab or just the combo. I'd definitely want the second 210 with the existing amplifier (500), rather than a single 210 with an 800W amplifier (combo or separates).
If the Rumble 500 (nice sounding amp, in my opinion) with 2x 210 cabs is not loud enough... then the answer is probably turning down somewhere else. That amp is not weak.
