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I am NOT "your" bassist

#41
coolrunner989 said:
I call the guitarist in my band as "my guitarist" to outsiders, because it's shorter than saying "the guitarist in the band that I play in". He does the same. It's not a power play IMO, just economy of language. It IS a power play if the pther person intends it, but IME they dont. It's just common speak.
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Well said. I have thought about this before too, and came to the same conclusion, it's not an ego trip or anything.

Political correctness can be a huge pain in the ass.
 
#42
JimmyM said:
LOL! Yeah, at that point, you're property.

BTW, I am not your Fliptop expert, nor am I their Fliptop expert, nor am I anyone's Fliptop expert. I am not a Fliptop expert at all. I'm just a guy who loves Fliptops and owns the Ampeg book and knows where to look up the answers people are asking about ;) People think I'm an expert because I started the Portaflex Club on here, but the truth is I started it to gather up the real experts and bleed them for advice ;)
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JimmyM

I just pulled this from "TheFreeDictionary"

ex·pert (ekspûrt)
n.
1. A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject. Having, involving, or demonstrating great skill, dexterity, or knowledge as the result of experience or training.

If I apply this to the "bold"sections.... Everybody here on TB knows that you have knowledge of a certain subject namely "fliptops". You also have knowledge as the result of experience. Everybody on TB knows you love and play "fliptops".

That would seem to make you an expert, at least by the definition in the dictionary. (please notice that I did not say "my", "our", or "their" - but mainly just the noun "expert")

No offense meant, just trying to add a little levity :D

Keep Low :bassist:
 
#43
this is my accountant
this is my lawyer
this is my manager
this is my doctor
this is my patient
this is my president
this is my boyfriend

none of those implies ownership, or superiority IMHO
its merely tells ppl your relationship between you and the person you are introducing

but when you say this is OUR ...
then you are speaking for someone else as well as yourself...
just want to provide another point of view :)

:bassist:
 
#44
BTW, in reference to an earlier comment someone made, let me just say that my incident with the aforementioned singer didn't start out as a shouting match. It only became one after he refused to see my side of things. To be honest, he's a pretty arrogant JO. One of the very few in my circles.
 
#48
Yeah - try to refrain from using "My Circles" it pisses some people off. :D:D

Is my Flip Top Ampeg Bitch cool wit you? :hiding:

Honestly, never bothered me when band mates called me their Bassist or hey meet my Bass Player etc....

But it's cool I can see how it could make you feel owned and shiz.
 
#49
I got to thinking about it after reading your post. We always refer to each other as "our guitarist" etc....

I was in a group one time where I felt like the groups "boy". Even though I got the people together that was in the band. Kinda like when you feel like the musician amidst a group of "artiste".

True story: I was once in a band and was at a social function with one of the bandmembers. He starts hitting on this lady, telling her how he was a rockstar, you know just pouring it on. Talking about his band, his this, his that, how he did everything. I was standing right there, he didn't introduce me, acknowledge me, didn't mention me, or anything. I was kinda embarrassed.

Some people get into the ego thing more than the music.
 
#51
Hell no! Don't take that. Get camo, clips, heaters. Go postal man!
JimmyM said:
I see this all the time on here and other places, and I just saw a couple posts on here that made me have to post this thread...

People refer to other guys in their bands as "my guitarist" or "my bassist" or whatever, and I cringe every time I see it. If there's anything that gets my goat, it's being referred to as someone's bassist by another person in the band. I once got into a big backstage shouting match with a famous guy who will remain nameless because he called me "his" bassist onstage (not Bowzer, BTW).

So let's get this clear...I am not anyone's bassist. Do not refer to me as your bassist at any time ever. You do not own me just because you're renting me for a few hours. If you want to refer to me as "our" bassist, that's fine. But I highly resent someone trying to put themselves over as the big shot by calling me their bassist. That's all it is...a big power play.

I've had people tell me it's a sign of comraderie. Bullcrap. It's a power play. Well, how much power over me will you have when I bail on your ass?

Anyway, YMMV, but I hate it and had to say something. Chances are someone in your band hates it, too. So if you're compelled to refer to your bandmates as "my _____er," you may want to think twice about that.
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#53
I think Jimmy's perspective is valid, but is influenced by past experience with various egos. I have been called "my bass player" by guitar players with egos, and it did feel like they were belittling me and my contribution to the band. I have also been called "my bass player" by guitarists and drummers, because I was the player they wanted to be holding down the low end. I take that as a compliment of being their favorite, and someone they respect. I think it all depends on who is saying it, and why they are saying it.
 
#54
coolrunner989 said:
I call the guitarist in my band as "my guitarist" to outsiders, because it's shorter than saying "the guitarist in the band that I play in". He does the same. It's not a power play IMO, just economy of language. It IS a power play if the pther person intends it, but IME they dont. It's just common speak.
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Exactly, in no previous experience has "my guitarist" used this term to try to claim me.
 
#56
coolrunner989 said:
I call the guitarist in my band as "my guitarist" to outsiders, because it's shorter than saying "the guitarist in the band that I play in". He does the same. It's not a power play IMO, just economy of language. It IS a power play if the pther person intends it, but IME they dont. It's just common speak.
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+1 , is just language, i never get how is possible people can fell hurtet by words, it does not make sense to me
 
#57
coolrunner989 said:
I call the guitarist in my band as "my guitarist" to outsiders, because it's shorter than saying "the guitarist in the band that I play in". He does the same. It's not a power play IMO, just economy of language. It IS a power play if the pther person intends it, but IME they dont. It's just common speak.
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I do the same thing, just for the ease of conversation. unless they know the person's name, he's "my singer/guitarist/drummer" to the same way I say "this is MY friend" or "this is MY family".

just because you got a peeve doesn't mean everyone is out to get you.
 
#59
It's funny, this was the last thread I read before leaving work and thought about it the whole way home. While I appreciate that this can get under someone's skin, it never really bothered me all that much. I was happy to have a paying gig to be honest :hyper:

I have dealt with my share of egomaniacs, but this would have been the last thing on my list to be concerned about with most of them. As someone else had said eariler, in a steady band situation, I kind of look at it like saying "if I ever need a bassist, you're my guy". That perspective makes it very flattering. From the perspective Jimmy used in his example, it would have most likely ticked me off.

Now, I say this with all the smileys available on TB as to not ruffle any feathers. Please take this lightly, as it is surely intended to be taken as such... if you're a hired gun, you do kinda belong to them at least for a few hours :hiding: I kid... :D
 
#60
60bass said:
JimmyM

I just pulled this from "TheFreeDictionary"

ex·pert (ekspûrt)
n.
1. A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject. Having, involving, or demonstrating great skill, dexterity, or knowledge as the result of experience or training.

If I apply this to the "bold"sections.... Everybody here on TB knows that you have knowledge of a certain subject namely "fliptops". You also have knowledge as the result of experience. Everybody on TB knows you love and play "fliptops".

That would seem to make you an expert, at least by the definition in the dictionary. (please notice that I did not say "my", "our", or "their" - but mainly just the noun "expert")

No offense meant, just trying to add a little levity :D
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Yes, I'm really offended that you think I'm an expert ;)

I'll be an expert when I can take one apart and put it back together again, or if I get more experience with the different models other than the two I own. I really don't see myself as a Fliptop expert, but thanks, bro...it does make me feel a little more like one ;)
 

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