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Ibanez 2024 release disappointing

#61
They also made this 5 band fully parametric EQ for 129.99$, and I like it.

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Adam Felix said:
I’m seriously considering it. As I see it, it would be easy money keeping a sharp eye at the various bass forums and making models based on what niches players are asking for. Main obstacle is getting efficient production set up. That’s where a giant like Ibanez will have an advantage, and for the same reason why a random talkbass user wouldn’t be as likely to succeed.
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ibanez started with an idea. so did fender. so did gibson. so did carvin. you name it.

it's not necessarily easier for ibanez. to maintain such a large operation, offering one new model has significant risks associated with it. it's obviously no small feat, tooling up and opening a production facility for guitars, but you would face in many ways an easier challenge getting started than they would, because they can only afford to make things that will sell (guessing here) tens if not hundreds of thousands of items.
 
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If I want an E string and a C string, I'll play my 6. And I couldn't care much less about a short-scale with or without a C string. Just not appealing to me in any way. So I'm not at all disappointed that Ibanez didn't release a unappealing and not-real-useful instrument.
 
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Adam Felix said:
Just airing my disappointment. 2024 could have been the year where Ibanez made the short scale/medium scale 5 string e-c part of bass playing accessible to the masses. For those either liking what Serek is up to or for those liking the alternative scale lengths of many of the new Fodera basses. The Mezzo bass and the Talman bass could easily have been expanded upon with iterations of their already existing basses. A higher end passive TMB35 or a medium scale TMB. A Mezzo that doesn’t look like a beginner bass with crappy active electronics. They could have made one 5 string with 24 or 26 fret cutout and in natural finish mimicking Janet Gwizdalas new FBass. The opportunities were many. I don’t get it. I hope you read this Ibanez, and get your sh*t together. You are not bound by tradition like Fender. Make something a bit more creative. Am I alone with this opinion?
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Oh no, you don’t. They have their poopie together, that’s why they’re still in business after decades…. Not to build and mass produce every little fad fantasy that you want at the time…. Be more practical like hey , why don’t they build a 4 string BTB anymore?
 
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The only thing I'm kind of disappointed in is the 25th anniversary Gary Willis model. I would have preferred a straight silver color like he used in the 90's. I'm just not a fan of this silver burst finish thing.
 
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Adam Felix said:
I’m seriously considering it. As I see it, it would be easy money keeping a sharp eye at the various bass forums and making models based on what niches players are asking for.
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Missed this when typing my first response but it's relevant: Numerous TB users have tried this exact thing, most recently Hammersmith, if memory serves.

They all went out of business, because this regretfully not a sustainable business model. Making "niche" products for a very small group of people, making them well, and pricing them affordably is the opposite of "easy money."
 
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Adam Felix said:
Just airing my disappointment. 2024 could have been the year where Ibanez made the short scale/medium scale 5 string e-c part of bass playing accessible to the masses. For those either liking what Serek is up to or for those liking the alternative scale lengths of many of the new Fodera basses. The Mezzo bass and the Talman bass could easily have been expanded upon with iterations of their already existing basses. A higher end passive TMB35 or a medium scale TMB. A Mezzo that doesn’t look like a beginner bass with crappy active electronics. They could have made one 5 string with 24 or 26 fret cutout and in natural finish mimicking Janet Gwizdalas new FBass. The opportunities were many. I don’t get it. I hope you read this Ibanez, and get your sh*t together. You are not bound by tradition like Fender. Make something a bit more creative. Am I alone with this opinion?
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2024 has only just begun.
There's still 11 and 3/4 months to go. Perhaps you speak to soon.
 
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Adam Felix said:
Just airing my disappointment. 2024 could have been the year where Ibanez made the short scale/medium scale 5 string e-c part of bass playing accessible to the masses. For those either liking what Serek is up to or for those liking the alternative scale lengths of many of the new Fodera basses. The Mezzo bass and the Talman bass could easily have been expanded upon with iterations of their already existing basses. A higher end passive TMB35 or a medium scale TMB. A Mezzo that doesn’t look like a beginner bass with crappy active electronics. They could have made one 5 string with 24 or 26 fret cutout and in natural finish mimicking Janet Gwizdalas new FBass. The opportunities were many. I don’t get it. I hope you read this Ibanez, and get your sh*t together. You are not bound by tradition like Fender. Make something a bit more creative. Am I alone with this opinion?
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As a potential buyer, there's no better voice to hear from. Tell them.
 
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ItsmeSantiago said:
You're asking for incredibly niche specs to be made in production model instruments. I love the Serek idea and I'd also like to see the Talman series expanded a bit, but I don't think "tradition" when it comes to Ibanez. Nobody was making production model single cut 6 string basses until Ibanez did it a decade ago.
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No kidding about making great tech and designs available to the masses.

Today, I saw a guy commenting that Ibanez copies little Dingwall when it's actually Dingwall copying Ibanez :)
 
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who said:
To be fair to the OP, he wasn't comparing Ibanez to Fodera. He was saying that Ibanez should follow Fodera's lead in making a shorter scale bass tuned E-C, which they have already done in the past, as I pointed out earlier in the thread.
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Ok, maybe not a comparison, but to think you could ask why Ibanez can’t do something Fodera can do?
 
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FRoss6788 said:
But they have tried (post #7).

I believe Ibanez's marketing staff would know if their product line was too vast.

They cut what is not selling, hence the deletion of their medium scale BTB's...
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They also limit what they distribute to different zones around the world. For instance there are finishes sold in America that aren’t available in Australia.
 
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