You are clueless about Fodera and most of the high end builders, aren't you... You really think that Fodera's customers are "nameless consumers"? And what makes film makers any different? you think they personally know any of their audience?
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If i had $8499...
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You are clueless about Fodera and most of the high end builders, aren't you... You really think that Fodera's customers are "nameless consumers"? And what makes film makers any different? you think they personally know any of their audience?
But if you reread your first post in this thread as quoted above, you can see how the most obvious interpretation of your comments is that people only do their job for a paycheck and have no emotional connection to their work.
After all, the post you quoted doesn't make the claim that luthiers have an attachment to each bass after built but rather that they put their "heart and soul" into building it. I had a similar passion for my work when I was a teacher but that doesn't mean that I had a lifelong attachment to each student that passed through my classroom.
Others may be making a different point, but my view is that yes, the guys from Fodera bring all of their passion and experience to bear in creating their instruments as do people who take pride in their work in all industries.
If you'd started with the argument that luthiers don't maintain any emotional attachment to basses after they are built I doubt you'd have gotten any argument. But you started with the notion that it building basses was solely a for profit enterprise and that no one ever puts their "heart,soul, wisdom, experience, energy, time and love" into their work.
Do you really need me to tell you the difference between a motion picture and a guitar? Really???
Fodera will sell a bass to anyone with $8,499. Anyone. I know it must hurt to know that, but I'm here for you, brotha. Speaking of high-end basses...I own a few high end basses? How about you? Should I write the company owners letters and let them know how their bass is doing??
SMCD, I'm sorry but you don't understand instrument building in the least.
You say no emotion goes into building. Well heree it is from the mans mouth himself, Carl Thompson.
You say no emotion goes into building. Well heree it is from the mans mouth himself, Carl Thompson.
I think it's safe to say that if any one of the employees at any of the high end builders won the lottery on Friday, they wouldn't be showing up for work on Monday. To use such fruity prose as to claim someone's "heart, soul and love" are in a consumer product is to stretch credibility beyond the limit. It's just ridiculous. People put their "heart,soul, wisdom, experience, energy, time and love" into their kids, not into a guitar that someone paid them to build.
Funny how there are a few companies that get this kind of rabid defense from the TB membership. And in the case of Fodera, most of those acolytes have never owned one of their products. This is all amazing to me.
Nothing new there. He's fixing a production error. And he better, considering how much the customer is paying for that bass, and how long he's waited for it.
Did that video impress you? It shouldn't have.
Again, we simply disagree. But what is intriguing to me is that you can concede that someone can put their "heart and soul" into making a film but not into other careers.
I think it would actually make more sense to me if I could paint you as a dyed-in-the-wool cynic who won't believe that anyone can have an emotional attachment to any undertaking that nets them a paycheck.
Very strange and oddly fascinating.
Hey are you the guy who made these comments on my Youtube video of me playing my Warwick Infinity?
the bass deserves to be played better
wow man, are you sure that for your skills a squire p bass wouldn't be more appropriate?
what a waste of a bass!
hahahah dude, I totally was about to say something like that. I mean really, *** is wrong with this guy? It's a Warwick Infinity, some respect for the instrument hahaha
True and I'm pretty sure they put as much love and care in an instrument build for the hotshots (Wooten, Jackson etc) as for any other customer. Take a look at the Fodera shop Youtube clips, it's pretty obvious this crew love what they're doing.
Tell Mica at Alembic about your Spoiler, she loves hearing of Alembic owners and their experiences with their instruments. If you somehow are unsatisfied with the instrument, she will do her best to solve whatever problem there is.
Most employers in the assembly line at Mercedes are robots, I agree that they don't care
LightGroove said:sooooo... why did you and feel the need to comment?
Obviously its got your interest..speak up.
dude. i have. lots of times. just having a little fun. (maybe read the whole thing)
smcd said:
Did you even listen to what he said?
"It breaks my heart to do it this way" and you could hear it in his voice.
I'm not even dignifying the rest of your post with a response.
Some people live in a black and white world where they know all. Oddly enough they all seem to end up on the interwebs
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LightGroove said:
You kids get off my lawn! Carl has been famous as a builder since the mid-70s when he built Stanley Clarke's piccolo bass! A Gotham legend among builders not unlike Ken Smith. As long as we're talking about Les, look up some Colin Hodgkinson and Back Door to hear bass lines that would be home on Frizzle Fry recorded in 1973.
..and who may I ask should be able to decide who plays what bass?
You should really hang out at The Gear Page. Your attitude would fit right in.
So which basses are not "commodities?" They are all products for sale. There are reasons to buy any brand. Who made you the arbiter of commoditization?
