Neither do I. if you reread my post you'll find we're on the same page. "I'll take it" is fine if you actually intend to buy it. It's the people who post that and then disappear like Jimmy Hoffa who annoy me.
"PM sent" doesn't bother me at all.
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"I'll take it"
- Thread starter tranceFusion
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"PM sent" doesn't bother me at all.
I just wish you could post negative feedback on "I'll take it" or those that PM and agree then never send the money. That's happened too many times and it diminishes the value of using talkbass to sell items.
Any time you have a community of thousands and thousands of people (especially musicians) there will be some flakes. However, the knee jerk is to REGULATE something every time there is a slight hiccup. Hogwash. Let the system police itself. If someone makes a habit of being a buy/sell flake, he will ultimately be flushed out here. I have never had a single problem with any transaction with any TBer (and about 90% of my gear has been bought from this community).
Yes, "I'll take it" should only be posted if you intend to buy under the posted condition with no negotiations. I get it. But just because something happens (INFREQUENTLY) that does not mean we need another rule. The buying and selling of gear being much more open and negotiable will make for a better experience for the most part.
At the risk of starting a no no derail, making drunk driving illegal doesn't stop many drunk drivers. Nor will a rule regarding "I'll take it" posts. How many people do you think have even read the rules for the classified section here? (I couldn't even tell you where to FIND them.) For the moat part buying and selling here is a great experience. No need to micromanage over a few dipsticks.
Yes, "I'll take it" should only be posted if you intend to buy under the posted condition with no negotiations. I get it. But just because something happens (INFREQUENTLY) that does not mean we need another rule. The buying and selling of gear being much more open and negotiable will make for a better experience for the most part.
At the risk of starting a no no derail, making drunk driving illegal doesn't stop many drunk drivers. Nor will a rule regarding "I'll take it" posts. How many people do you think have even read the rules for the classified section here? (I couldn't even tell you where to FIND them.) For the moat part buying and selling here is a great experience. No need to micromanage over a few dipsticks.
That's because people who ask questions typically know what they want; if you don't have it then they don't want to waste their money or time on it.
I'm not sure what equates tire kicking with asking questions. I've asked questions and made purchases as well as passed based on the reply. Bass look good with no weight posted? Ask. Weighs more than you'd like? Pass. Weighs within the range you find acceptable? Buy. If that is tire kicking vs. "I have a bass for $X no questions" then so be it.
Questions are fine and encouraged, but I think it is mostly true that someone that asks questions rarely buys.
That's interesting. I've bought and sold a fair amount on TB and often ask questions. Helps me decide if I want to buy.
One thing I do, after getting an answer, is tell the seller what decision I've made and sometimes why. If someone will take the time to answer it's only polite to say "thanks, but I'm going to pass".
In regard to the OP, there seems to be many definitions of "I'll take it". I recently sold an amp. The first PM said "I'll take it". So did the second. Then the first started asking questions and asking me to hold it until end of the day until he could pay. As it became clear he wasn't going to buy it I asked him if I was holding it for him to pay or to decide if he was going to buy it. Then he said let the other guy have it. By then that guy had already bought another amp.
Salt on the wound--the original buyer made a lower offer a few days later. I told him I would let have it for $50 more than the original price since he cost me a quick sale.
That's just one story. But TBers are better than CLers.
Bingo. Is there a reason we need MORE rules?
In any community there will always be people who don't exhibit any sort of respect. IME rules don't fix this. Rules only annoy the rest of us. Get a thicker skin OP.
That's interesting. I've bought and sold a fair amount on TB and often ask questions. Helps me decide if I want to buy.
One thing I do, after getting an answer, is tell the seller what decision I've made and sometimes why. If someone will take the time to answer it's only polite to say "thanks, but I'm going to pass".
In regard to the OP, there seems to be many definitions of "I'll take it". I recently sold an amp. The first PM said "I'll take it". So did the second. Then the first started asking questions and asking me to hold it until end of the day until he could pay. As it became clear he wasn't going to buy it I asked him if I was holding it for him to pay or to decide if he was going to buy it. Then he said let the other guy have it. By then that guy had already bought another amp.
Salt on the wound--the original buyer made a lower offer a few days later. I told him I would let have it for $50 more than the original price since he cost me a quick sale.
That's just one story. But TBers are better than CLers.
I think it's about 75% true.
I've had several of the "I'll take it" that needed 24 hours to pay, promised it would be paid as soon as ______ and then you never hear from them again. Like your experience, it usually cost another sale. I guess it's better than them buying it and then claiming something is wrong with it to get their money back. Basically they were just using the sale as a means to try the gear out.
about half the things I've bought I've asked alot of questions. the other half I've bought without any questions, but the items in that half were usually a fraction of the price of those in the first.
I've received some insulting low ball offers and I've come close to sending a very sarcastic reply but I try my best not to do that.
When I post a price of $X and then an offer is sent at $X - $150, I want to respond with "No, how about $X + $150?" Really, what they are asking you to do is take $150 out of your pocket and put it in theirs.
A few years ago, a guy gave me a sob story about how he really wanted this particular model bass that I was selling and that he had saved for so long and all he could come up with was $X and wanted me to give him a deal. I lowered my price for him and then a week later he had the bass up for sale in the classifieds at more than $400 more than I was originally asking.
Live and learn.
However, if someone posted in my FS thread "I'll take it" and then sent a low ball offer, I reply in my thread and embarrass them with their low ball offer.
I love getting trade offers even after stating in the thread "No Trades".
When I post a price of $X and then an offer is sent at $X - $150, I want to respond with "No, how about $X + $150?" Really, what they are asking you to do is take $150 out of your pocket and put it in theirs.
A few years ago, a guy gave me a sob story about how he really wanted this particular model bass that I was selling and that he had saved for so long and all he could come up with was $X and wanted me to give him a deal. I lowered my price for him and then a week later he had the bass up for sale in the classifieds at more than $400 more than I was originally asking.
Live and learn.However, if someone posted in my FS thread "I'll take it" and then sent a low ball offer, I reply in my thread and embarrass them with their low ball offer.
I love getting trade offers even after stating in the thread "No Trades".
Exactly. Something a few years old and covered in stickers is seldom worth 80% of new retail.
At best I'd think it was wishful thinking. You guys who get hostile at lowballs might want to reflect on how much money is at stake. I have given items away that I have had lowball offers on before. I'd rather it go to charity than be taken by someone who would probably re-sell it as if it were gold plated after telling me how crummy it was.If I'm paying over $50, I'm probably going to ask a question or two before letting go of any money. That said, I have dropped a fair chunk of cash here recently with no issues other than thinking I got exactly what I wanted at a price I was willing to pay.
bongomania
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Well to be frank, usually it's not even something obvious like "covered in stickers" that makes the item worth less than the seller thinks it should be worth. Usually it's just the bare fact that almost NOTHING is worth 80% of new retail. I mean sure people can point to exceptions like a currently-coveted effect pedal or certain other fast-moving popular items, but by and large, the economy today is not going to humor somebody who thinks they can get back most of the money they spent at the store.
This is what I was getting at. That "new bass smell"(and its associated mark-up) is non-transferrable. Especially if the original owner paid retail prices.
I always ask myself would the savings offset lack of a warranty?
Would I pay what I might save on the deal for an unused with warranty later?
How much might this item be used up/abused without showing it and is it really a savings to buy it?
Mostly I like letting someone else take the depreciation hit on items, but some things are worth paying list.
Would I pay what I might save on the deal for an unused with warranty later?
How much might this item be used up/abused without showing it and is it really a savings to buy it?
Mostly I like letting someone else take the depreciation hit on items, but some things are worth paying list.
I usually sell stuff for a decent deal on TB as I've received plenty of good deals. But I'm not going to give things away, well actually I have on occasion, but I digress. I usually go with the Saturn model and put what I consider a fair price and stick with it. Some will try to haggle and then I agree to their price if they will pay for shipping.
Sometimes I'd guess it is done by people who want to rub it on others. Other times, might be done by two who are shilling up something. If there is action, more people will be antsy to pull the trigger rather than crickets.
