Ah, I see. Your post was a bit unclear. It seemed like you were saying that every bass body design should be compatible with 4, 5, 6, 7... X number of strings.
Exactly, it results in poorly engineered garbage.
Why not both?
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
IMO, neck dive on expensive guitars is absolutely inexcusable
- Thread starter InternetAlias
- Start date
"Really any will do fine, just make sure it's black."
Oh, I read "animal" instead of "mammal".
That's certainly one way to look at it. However...
The ESP in question will still not sound like the Thumb. And that's where we get into a somewhat different aspect of the whole story.
I'm fairly certain that I've said this before on TB, but any design - guitar, car, building - will have certain imperfections and compromises. It's up to every one of us to decide whether the compromise(s) in question are acceptable to them.
Personally, as much as I liked the sound of the Thumb - owned both 4 and a 5 in the late 80s/early 90s - I could not get used to it ergonomically no matter how hard I tried and moved away from the concept altogether. They are unique-sounding instruments, but I could not make them work for my physical build and playing style.
My $0.02 only...
But the thumb balances worse than the ESP. ESP doesn't sound worse, it sounds different.
And its target market, sure. So yeah, you could say ESP is harder to carry around since it'd require a bit bigger case and so on. One's also more likely to ding that ESP than the thumb because of the bigger body alone. But my point was to show that it's possible to design a great wide necked 6 string bass that isn't going to dive. The truth is in the horn going up to the 12th fret and hefty lower body.
I never meant to imply that the ESP sounded worse, but exactly that it sounded different. Apologies if that was unclear from my previous post.
Having been around guitars and basses for 40 years now, I'll say that there were many great-sounding instruments that I decided to move away from or pass on buying them in the first place because I could not get comfortable with them. My limited experience has been that there's no "one size fits all" bass (or a guitar) and that one's personal preference and comfort level with any given piece can't be completely predicted prior to playing them.
Designs are what they are. For years I've gigged at least two basses - a '71 Tele Bass and a '78 Gibson RD Standard - that a lot of people find uncomfortable. I was fine with both - and loved them dearly in very different ways - three decades ago, but am certain that I couldn't put up with RD nowadays for any amount of time unless I was seated.
My $0.02 only...
That is the best for cock rock, not metal.
This thread does nothing to stop my GAS for a Thumb 5. I'm hopeless.
I also kind of want a dually Camaro now.
I also kind of want a dually Camaro now.
Ive had a Thumb 5 BO for 15 years and never knew I had a neck dive issue. Until today. Thank you, TB.
Maybe the lack of neck dive is a one off QC issue.
Maybe the lack of neck dive is a one off QC issue.
I did that years ago!
I also hit the truss rod!
Works as long as your thumb skips over the strap button area.
And then it doesn't.
The circles are where the strap button was.
There screw broke off when it hit the truss rod.
Dug it out and left a big hole.
Plugged it with dowel rod.
Last edited:
I actually prefer other colors of instrument when playing metal. Mostly because I'll be wearing a black shirt and I want the bass to stand out.
Bryan R. Tyler
TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002
Staff member
Administrator
Gold Supporting Member
Supporting Member
- May 3, 2002
- 28,948
- 20,932
- Disclosures
- Reviewer: Bass Player Magazine
I’m guessing his D string tuner would have lopped off the toes on his left foot?
Yeah, I get this a lot, 3 of my guitars are black (spector and hamer are pitch black, the sx at least has a white pickguard) so they are really bad in shots and when it's dark. I want to get a CAR bass with a white pickguard, that'll really stand out!
Then I would go for a white bass with black light stage lighting or, for the ultimate effect, a clear, acrylic bass body with LED lighting throughout, multi-color and flashing...my, .02 and no change necessary
.
I'm planning on having my 4003S refinished white, eventually.Then I would go for a white bass with black light stage lighting or, for the ultimate effect, a clear, acrylic bass body with LED lighting throughout, multi-color and flashing...my, .02 and no change necessary
