I'd contend that only an idiot would lend retail gear to some guy so he can Gig it.....
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In a gigantic bind, what should I do Talkbass?
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I'd contend that only an idiot would lend retail gear to some guy so he can Gig it.....
which will work till the first time he plays at a bar with no PA...
Right from GC's policies:
Returned items must be in original, brand-new condition and show no signs of wear or use including, but not limited to, belt-buckle or pick scratches, scuffs, dings or scrapes on the instrument or collateral materials. Items must also include all original packaging, manuals, warrantees and accessories or your return may be subject to a return handling charge.
Abuse of Return Privileges
Our return policy is in place to ensure our customers don’t get stuck with the wrong piece of gear. We may, in our sole discretion, limit or suspend return privileges for customers who abuse or attempt to violate our return policy through practices including, but not limited to, excessive returns, attempts to return items that are no longer in brand-new condition, etc.
Sounds like they track a customer's return history, so you can't use their return policy like a free rental. There is nothing about not gigging with a potential return. My guess is that if you do take the amp out to a gig better not let it get dinged or scratched if you want all your money back. If I buy an item for bass, I am taking it out on my next gig and if it doesn't cut it, it goes back. I guess mainly it comes down to intent. Personally as a gigging musician, I can't imagine owning only one amp. One of anything actually. I have had problems with my gear that I was able limp through the current gig but had to be switched out for the next days gig.
Returned items must be in original, brand-new condition and show no signs of wear or use including, but not limited to, belt-buckle or pick scratches, scuffs, dings or scrapes on the instrument or collateral materials. Items must also include all original packaging, manuals, warrantees and accessories or your return may be subject to a return handling charge.
Abuse of Return Privileges
Our return policy is in place to ensure our customers don’t get stuck with the wrong piece of gear. We may, in our sole discretion, limit or suspend return privileges for customers who abuse or attempt to violate our return policy through practices including, but not limited to, excessive returns, attempts to return items that are no longer in brand-new condition, etc.
Sounds like they track a customer's return history, so you can't use their return policy like a free rental. There is nothing about not gigging with a potential return. My guess is that if you do take the amp out to a gig better not let it get dinged or scratched if you want all your money back. If I buy an item for bass, I am taking it out on my next gig and if it doesn't cut it, it goes back. I guess mainly it comes down to intent. Personally as a gigging musician, I can't imagine owning only one amp. One of anything actually. I have had problems with my gear that I was able limp through the current gig but had to be switched out for the next days gig.
If I have $400 and a week to go, then I'm in no means in a gigantic bind. Be a pro. Get some gear to do the job. You can't afford to be a gear snob on your budget. Don't fear the used/CL market. A certain % of those deals will go bad. Be more careful next time--learn from it and move on. I'd recommend buying from the original owner next time, being sure to understand why the owner is selling. 2 cents.
Please keep in mind, I was advising in an emergency situation. If the amp wasn't mint upon return, no refund.
I'm sure that there are a lot of other cheap heads out there, but you could get a GK 400 or 700 rb for $250 or maybe less? That would definitely get you where you need to go and would sound great in the process.
I don't disagree. Just pointing that there really isn't anything in their policy saying you can't take it to a gig or return it for any reason, but that they probably keep track if you do it too frequently. So if the OP is in a pinch, there is nothing in their policy saying that he can't return it after taking it to a gig.
Unfortunately, as your post and others in this thread have proven, generous return policies like this tend to be abused by unscrupulous customers that would rather use it as more of a free rental policy than a means to try gear they intend to buy.
A customer truly intent on buying new gear can derive the same benefit from an exchange policy.
Note that Mahoney's is apparently now owned by SIR.....who isn't in the business of giving anything away for free trials.....
You like to argue, don't you ? No, bro. Mahoney's was a well regarded , family owned music store that sold ,rented gear and provided back lines to performers in Las Vegas before big box retailers whipped them out. Sad, really.
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Wow, can't believe your buddy that sold you the bum amp (even though he did not know) won't lend you his amp for one gig.
You can get a GK 1001 RBII in the classifieds for $400 right now. Plus, buying on Talkbass is MUCH better than Craigslist. Plus, that GK would get you through any gig you are playing I'm sure. Plenty of power, reliable, and a good sounding amp. I used one for years.
You can get a GK 1001 RBII in the classifieds for $400 right now. Plus, buying on Talkbass is MUCH better than Craigslist. Plus, that GK would get you through any gig you are playing I'm sure. Plenty of power, reliable, and a good sounding amp. I used one for years.
I think you could get a lot of amp for $400. There is a new Fender Rumble 500 near me for $329. I wouldn't be afraid of CL either. I picked up an SWR sm500 with a Goliath III cab for $300. Most solid state amps are pretty bullet proof. The used gear market has changed radically since the days of searching music stores and scouring classified ads. Buy something,get some jobs out of it and if you sell it later at a loss, think of it as a rental.
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There is also an Eden head or two and a Hartke that all fall in your budget just in the first few pages.
Every gig I've ever done where there has been live entertainment has had a PA system - either mine, my band's, or provided by house, or a rental. True enough, though, that if this "big gig" is backline and vocals only through the PA, he's S.O.L. going direct. I'd contend that this type of gig is far from a "big gig", and chances are any old piece of slobber bass amp to get by for this one show will suffice.
+1 on the going GK. Tons of power for cheap prices. And it's not like buying a budget beginners amp. You're buying a quality amp that will serve you for years to come if you want it.
Get a used gk1001rbii or 800 or 400rb. You can find them near or under 400USD sometimes and theyre bulletproof.
well, seems like in austria it is much easier. Here would would probably need an hour with a lawyer who would set up a form and then you have to wait.
