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Interviewing Bassists Stories Pt. 3

Tom, I've spent the last couple of days tuning in and out of your original threads. I started out not getting my head round your posts at all. However your writing style is pretty amazing, and really nice to read in contrast to more conventional forum writing styles (of which I am guilty to a tee). I guess I approached these threads expecting a straight reading of "then Gene Simmons did this" whereas your writing seems to go much further.

The way you balance more whimsical ideas, a mix of real and quasi-spiritual thoughts and hard-hitting stories of interviewing and mingling with bassists is quite interesting. The way you are coolly detached whilst observing those losing their heads around you is especially interesting. I like your analogy of sitting with a certain posture as a means of 'disappearing' both to hostile guys and vapid teenage girls who had flocked to see a couple of tribute bands.

I can especially understand why you became frustrated with magazines. I've stopped buying them myself largely because they have become expensive and largely because they have become dull, and tell me very little other than what gear exists out there that I cannot afford (and happens to be both reviewed and advertised within pages of each other in the same issue). If you Google "cork sniffer magazine" you will find an image of a fictitious magazine that is a fairly well aimed shot at some of the worst aspects of these magazines.
 
Tom, I've spent the last couple of days tuning in and out of your original threads. I started out not getting my head round your posts at all. However your writing style is pretty amazing, and really nice to read in contrast to more conventional forum writing styles (of which I am guilty to a tee). I guess I approached these threads expecting a straight reading of "then Gene Simmons did this" whereas your writing seems to go much further.

The way you balance more whimsical ideas, a mix of real and quasi-spiritual thoughts and hard-hitting stories of interviewing and mingling with bassists is quite interesting. The way you are coolly detached whilst observing those losing their heads around you is especially interesting. I like your analogy of sitting with a certain posture as a means of 'disappearing' both to hostile guys and vapid teenage girls who had flocked to see a couple of tribute bands.

I can especially understand why you became frustrated with magazines. I've stopped buying them myself largely because they have become expensive and largely because they have become dull, and tell me very little other than what gear exists out there that I cannot afford (and happens to be both reviewed and advertised within pages of each other in the same issue). If you Google "cork sniffer magazine" you will find an image of a fictitious magazine that is a fairly well aimed shot at some of the worst aspects of these magazines.
This whole thing got totally out of control!

The original plan was to do exactly what you said and write about ten stories and then try and figure out what to do with the rest of my life.

It turned into a book which turned into a trilogy, and there's more to come. I'm hoping I'm not being too optimistic.

Years ago I read a Mad Magazine article that was supposed to be a series of exchanges between a wannabe cartoonist and the magazine. The guy had gotten rejection notices from every magazine in the country and just needed one from Mad to complete his collection. He sent in a cartoon, expecting to get the rejection, but instead they bought it and published it.

He then sent a whole series of letters with worse and worse cartoons, and Mad kept buying them and telling him to send more, that they were cracking up the whole office. They called him by name and signed the letters using only the first name of the editor. With each letter, Mad got friendlier and more supportive.

Finally, the guy told Mad they'd saved his life. He'd burned his collection of rejection notices and realized that he was a good cartoonist, and he sent in twenty new cartoons for Mad.

The last panel in the story was a form letter from Mad:

"Dear Contributor: We are sorry to inform you that the material you sent does not meet our present needs. Thank you for contacting us. Sincerely, the editors."
 
Hi Tom, dropping in to say I'm over halfway through Ghosts and loving it! I don't have much time for reading (or Talkbass) at the moment, but when I do have time to read, Ghosts is my go-to book. In a very quick scan of this thread progression, I thought I saw a trilogy mentioned? Hope I've got that right because that would be fantastic! Your writing and storytelling is wonderful. I had to consciously suppress my laughter on my way to work this morning to avoid appearing like the looney of the day at the back of the streetcar. Love your dry wit and observation of the absurd. Thank you for your work. And for god's sake, keep writing, man!
 
Hi Tom, dropping in to say I'm over halfway through Ghosts and loving it! I don't have much time for reading (or Talkbass) at the moment, but when I do have time to read, Ghosts is my go-to book. In a very quick scan of this thread progression, I thought I saw a trilogy mentioned? Hope I've got that right because that would be fantastic! Your writing and storytelling is wonderful. I had to consciously suppress my laughter on my way to work this morning to avoid appearing like the looney of the day at the back of the streetcar. Love your dry wit and observation of the absurd. Thank you for your work. And for god's sake, keep writing, man!
Wow! Thanks very much.

Yes, I'll soon publish a novel and a dream diary as companion pieces to the memoir.

The novel--being fiction--will allow me complete freedom to explore issues raised in the memoir. I can make things turn out the way I wanted rather than the way they did, and I have plausible deniability for everything I write. What's real and what's made up? I'll never tell.

The dream diary records exactly what it was like to exist in a state of chronic rage for twenty years. It's one thing to say that I was crippled by rage; it's another to simply show what happened inside my head every time I lay down at night and tried to sleep.

Each book can be read by itself, but each also adds to the other two. Taken as a complete set, the Ghosts trilogy will demonstrate that it's entirely possible to come back from a state of pure hopelessness and misery.

I also wanted to see if I could exorcise this stuff in as funny a way as possible. The doctor who diagnosed me with Meniere's disease told me he felt bad about laughing at the really terrible stuff that happened.

My intent is to make you laugh. The books are entertainment for you and banishment for me. Win-win!

The two other volumes in the trilogy will be finished in about two months, I think.
 
The chemo is making Mom's hair fall out. Instead of doing the usual shave-your-head-in-solidarity, I decided to give it a twist.

She gets to see it tomorrow. I'll have Tim document it with his camera, because after that I cut off the fringe. I still have to testify against the rapist next month, and we can't have the star witness looking like this. Mom has a sexy pink ska-fedora she wears, so the photo's going to be epic.

I've been told it took a lot of courage for me to do this.

Seriously? It takes guts to crack up your mother when she needs it the most? This is actually incredibly fun. I recommend that once in your life, you should all make yourselves look really weird and silly for the benefit of others. It's quite liberating.
 

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I recommend that once in your life, you should all make yourselves look really weird and silly for the benefit of others.

In my case the problem is that I start out wierd and silly and it's a constant struggle to make the best of it. Embrace your wierdness and silliness.

When we were young we might have gotten picked on for being into Star Trek, but nowadays it seems 30-40-year-old guys are now free to brag about knowing too much about Marvel and DC comics and Star Wars trivia. As a long-suffering Rush fan, this acceptance of geekdom is a welcome thing for the most part, although I look up to guys like Lee Marvin and Steve McQueen and could never see them tolerating it.

My parents have both faced life-threatening illnesses. My mom made it through alright and is still working 2 jobs in her 60s. My dad wasn't so lucky. Needless to say, I place a lot of value on my relationship with my mom, and give her more of my time lately. I still have the Japanese Westone bass she bought me in the 80s, which was my first good bass and the one I learned how to play on. She has no interest in music, but I thank her for it frequently.

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In my case the problem is that I start out wierd and silly and it's a constant struggle to make the best of it. Embrace your wierdness and silliness.

When we were young we might have gotten picked on for being into Star Trek, but nowadays it seems 30-40-year-old guys are now free to brag about knowing too much about Marvel and DC comics and Star Wars trivia. As a long-suffering Rush fan, this acceptance of geekdom is a welcome thing for the most part, although I look up to guys like Lee Marvin and Steve McQueen and could never see them tolerating it.

My parents have both faced life-threatening illnesses. My mom made it through alright and is still working 2 jobs in her 60s. My dad wasn't so lucky. Needless to say, I place a lot of value on my relationship with my mom, and give her more of my time lately. I still have the Japanese Westone bass she bought me in the 80s, which was my first good bass and the one I learned how to play on. She has no interest in music, but I thank her for it frequently.

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What a beauty! I'm glad you kept it. I wish I'd kept everything I threw away because at the time I felt it was too painful to keep around.

Childish attitude.
 
Forgive me for a slight derailment of the current swing of this thread, but as I know Tom is a fan of John Taylor (as now many of us who have read Tom's books), I saw in another TB thread a link to some YouTube vids that have isolated bass parts of Duran Duran
songs. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere in this thread, but if so, here's another go at it-

http://youtu.be/qAdAPOR8MQc

The page also has links to other isolated bass tracks from Duran Duran. As usual, you are on the money for your selections of who to notice in the bass world.

PS- Loved Ghosts
 
Forgive me for a slight derailment of the current swing of this thread, but as I know Tom is a fan of John Taylor (as now many of us who have read Tom's books), I saw in another TB thread a link to some YouTube vids that have isolated bass parts of Duran Duran
songs. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere in this thread, but if so, here's another go at it-

http://youtu.be/qAdAPOR8MQc

The page also has links to other isolated bass tracks from Duran Duran. As usual, you are on the money for your selections of who to notice in the bass world.

PS- Loved Ghosts
No such thing as derailing this thread. And thanks for your kind words about Ghosts.

Thanks for that link. I have a lot of listening to do.

In the comments, someone complained about Taylor's timing. He himself complains about it, but I always thought his idiosyncratic timing gives his parts an organic feel that's missing from so many others' playing. I much prefer style over technique; developing a style that's instantly recognizable is much harder than mastering techniques.

Everyone has an opinion about what makes a good bass player: Lock in with the drums; play only when the kick plays; do a counter-melody; do a harmony; and so on.

United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously said that he probably couldn't define hard-core pornography, but he knew it when he saw it. I can't define a great bassist, but I know one when I hear one.

John Taylor is one of the greats. The bass line for "Girls on Film" is really simple. What makes it genius is how it fits in with the rest of the song. He's playing in such a way that the rest of the song makes the bass line sound FAR much complex than it really is. Incredible talent to figure that out, and also incredible talent to do so much with so little, like Diana Krall and Suzanne Vega do with their tiny, limited little voices.

First the bass line:

 
Well, it took several hours over two (three? I can't remember) days, but I finished all three threads. Easily worth the time and effort.

Tom, you'll be happy to know that I ordered both Ghosts and Ballyhoo and In Cold Sweat earlier today. I look forward to reading them both and I'm sure I'll enjoy them immensely.
 
Well, it took several hours over two (three? I can't remember) days, but I finished all three threads. Easily worth the time and effort.

Tom, you'll be happy to know that I ordered both Ghosts and Ballyhoo and In Cold Sweat earlier today. I look forward to reading them both and I'm sure I'll enjoy them immensely.
I AM happy! Thanks!

All good news gratefully received.

If you like the memoir, you'll like the two companion volumes to the memoir, the novel Chasing the Last Whale and Hallucinabulia: the Dream Diary of an Unintended Solitarian.

Both will be self-published and therefore entirely free from artistic constraint. For the first time in my career, I'll be able to say everything I ever wanted.

Here's the introduction to Hallucinabulia, which will be finished in a month or so:

Most of my dreams were nightmares. Some of them were so bad that I began writing them down. I wasn’t sure why I bothered; preserving them to read over again wasn’t the goal. Instead, I think I simply wanted to get them out of my system. And by capturing them, I caged them. My nightmares often made me wake up screaming. Putting them on paper helped me cope with the thoughts and emotional hangovers they produced. Sometimes my nightmares ruined the entire day.

As I began publishing more books, I stopped keeping a dream diary. There simply wasn’t enough time, since the military-history titles I published required a massive amount of research and note taking. I wrote all day, morning to night. The diary also seemed to have run its course. I had different tools--psychotherapy and medication--to cage my nightmares. In time, the nightmares tapered off. Though my dreams are still as vivid and lingering as movies, I can’t remember the last time I had a horror show on the level of the ones I present here. I used to hate going to bed, because my nights were usually a journey into hell. But I’ve lost my fear of sleep.

Hallucinabulia is the third volume of the Ghosts trilogy. It joins Ghosts and Ballyhoo: Memoirs of a Failed L.A. Music Journalist and my novel Chasing the Last Whale. All explore the same theme of conquering a traumatic past by converting your anger over loss into gratitude for what you once had. The feedback I’ve gotten from Ghosts and Ballyhoo prompted me to publish this extremely private document, since it provides context to the memoir and serves the same function: It banishes and entertains. Not everything in this book is negative. Some of it will make you laugh. Hallucinabulia also documents the psychological and emotional state in which I existed until October of 2011, when I was diagnosed with Meniere’s disease and was able to finally junk the rage that had eaten me alive for my entire life.

By reading my dreams, you’ll be able to see for yourself how far I've come. I’m proud of that achievement. Showing you what was inside me for so long is also my way of bearing witness. It's a chronicle of disaster, no different from a diary kept during the Black Death, for example. I’ve edited some of these dreams, removing details and changing specific nouns and verbs. What you read is nowhere near as hideous as the nightmares actually were. It’s my prerogative to withhold, and besides, my intent in publishing Hallucinabulia isn’t to exploit my history or seek your pity. It’s simply to create another art project. I wrote 90 percent of this diary in longhand, filling several notebooks, and then I transcribed it onto my computer. It deserves to be published if for no other reason than the sheer time and work that went into it. Also, I think some of the imagery is outstandingly odd and hilarious.

There’s great freedom in being housebound and solitary. I’m now indifferent to so much that worries others. At the top of the list of things I no longer care about is how people perceive me. Make of my dream diary what you will. If there is a message in the Ghosts trilogy, it’s this: You are not alone. Plenty of us know what you’re going through, since we’ve gone through it ourselves. I kept thinking that things could not possibly get worse, but I was wrong. There’s no bottom to reach, no “bad as bad can be.” Bad is not finite. As bad as you can imagine your life can become, reality has a way of topping you.

And yet...

The person who had these dreams is now happy. He’s achieved clarity, and gratitude has allowed him to weather far worse storms in the past six months than he did in the fifty years that came before. Clarity and gratitude saved his life.

As long as you’re alive, there’s hope.
 
I AM happy! Thanks!

All good news gratefully received.

If you like the memoir, you'll like the two companion volumes to the memoir, the novel Chasing the Last Whale and Hallucinabulia: the Dream Diary of an Unintended Solitarian.

Both will be self-published and therefore entirely free from artistic constraint. For the first time in my career, I'll be able to say everything I ever wanted.

Here's the introduction to Hallucinabulia, which will be finished in a month or so:

Most of my dreams were nightmares. Some of them were so bad that I began writing them down. I wasn’t sure why I bothered; preserving them to read over again wasn’t the goal. Instead, I think I simply wanted to get them out of my system. And by capturing them, I caged them. My nightmares often made me wake up screaming. Putting them on paper helped me cope with the thoughts and emotional hangovers they produced. Sometimes my nightmares ruined the entire day.

As I began publishing more books, I stopped keeping a dream diary. There simply wasn’t enough time, since the military-history titles I published required a massive amount of research and note taking. I wrote all day, morning to night. The diary also seemed to have run its course. I had different tools--psychotherapy and medication--to cage my nightmares. In time, the nightmares tapered off. Though my dreams are still as vivid and lingering as movies, I can’t remember the last time I had a horror show on the level of the ones I present here. I used to hate going to bed, because my nights were usually a journey into hell. But I’ve lost my fear of sleep.

Hallucinabulia is the third volume of the Ghosts trilogy. It joins Ghosts and Ballyhoo: Memoirs of a Failed L.A. Music Journalist and my novel Chasing the Last Whale. All explore the same theme of conquering a traumatic past by converting your anger over loss into gratitude for what you once had. The feedback I’ve gotten from Ghosts and Ballyhoo prompted me to publish this extremely private document, since it provides context to the memoir and serves the same function: It banishes and entertains. Not everything in this book is negative. Some of it will make you laugh. Hallucinabulia also documents the psychological and emotional state in which I existed until October of 2011, when I was diagnosed with Meniere’s disease and was able to finally junk the rage that had eaten me alive for my entire life.

By reading my dreams, you’ll be able to see for yourself how far I've come. I’m proud of that achievement. Showing you what was inside me for so long is also my way of bearing witness. It's a chronicle of disaster, no different from a diary kept during the Black Death, for example. I’ve edited some of these dreams, removing details and changing specific nouns and verbs. What you read is nowhere near as hideous as the nightmares actually were. It’s my prerogative to withhold, and besides, my intent in publishing Hallucinabulia isn’t to exploit my history or seek your pity. It’s simply to create another art project. I wrote 90 percent of this diary in longhand, filling several notebooks, and then I transcribed it onto my computer. It deserves to be published if for no other reason than the sheer time and work that went into it. Also, I think some of the imagery is outstandingly odd and hilarious.

There’s great freedom in being housebound and solitary. I’m now indifferent to so much that worries others. At the top of the list of things I no longer care about is how people perceive me. Make of my dream diary what you will. If there is a message in the Ghosts trilogy, it’s this: You are not alone. Plenty of us know what you’re going through, since we’ve gone through it ourselves. I kept thinking that things could not possibly get worse, but I was wrong. There’s no bottom to reach, no “bad as bad can be.” Bad is not finite. As bad as you can imagine your life can become, reality has a way of topping you.

And yet...

The person who had these dreams is now happy. He’s achieved clarity, and gratitude has allowed him to weather far worse storms in the past six months than he did in the fifty years that came before. Clarity and gratitude saved his life.

As long as you’re alive, there’s hope.


Whoa that's deep.

One hell of a peek down the rabbit hole there Tom.

The red pill please.
 
Tom, maybe an off-topic question, but I think I read once that you have Billy Graham on your pickguard. At the same time I read over on part 2 that you don't consider yourself religious. Where does Graham factor into your outlook? I'm curious here, not trying to cause trouble.