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iOS Bass Players Thread #5, V, or cinco, take yer pick.
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Here is a better view of how the app works... There are a bunch more sounds available within the apps menus...
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I didn't know that David Bowie came out with a NEW album this year.
Been listening to SoundCloud since the beginning of 2013 - basically you guys here and a few other far out dudes I've come across.
This first track is pretty killer (haven't listend to the rest yet)
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and for a little on-topic:
Anyone else like playing around with SoundPrism app?
I have the free version and it is a great way to come up with new ideas.
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and...RIp - the Sunrizer is about to explode upon the scene thanks to midimorphosis - or at least that is my plan (inspired by your clip)
Been listening to SoundCloud since the beginning of 2013 - basically you guys here and a few other far out dudes I've come across.
This first track is pretty killer (haven't listend to the rest yet)
~
and for a little on-topic:
Anyone else like playing around with SoundPrism app?
I have the free version and it is a great way to come up with new ideas.
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and...RIp - the Sunrizer is about to explode upon the scene thanks to midimorphosis - or at least that is my plan (inspired by your clip)
@Solarman: I've spent the last two days seriously tweaking presets, and adding Sunrizer in the background makes for a GREAT solo sound.
Here's what I do:
I run Jamup as normal.
Then, I use Midimorphosis to link my bass signal to Sunrizer, which is set to run in the background. By adjusting the levels in Sunrizer, I'm able to get a great mix of the two.
It's awesome when playing solo. I'm able to have a bed of strings that follows my every move. And by keeping the volume of Sunrizer a bit lower than my Jamup presets, it covers up the small amount of latency cause by the pitch-to-midi conversion.
Also, some patches in Sunrizer work better than others. Be sure to set Midimorphosis to transmit chords, not just single notes. If you get latency or pops and clicks, set Midimorphosis for single notes and that usually cleans it up. Also helpful is limiting the number of pedals you have running in Jamup. I've found that the more effects you run, the greater risk of pops and glitches.
I run my straight Acoustic 360/LA-2A preset, with a touch of OD, then add the synth. Sounds awesome.
Here's what I do:
I run Jamup as normal.
Then, I use Midimorphosis to link my bass signal to Sunrizer, which is set to run in the background. By adjusting the levels in Sunrizer, I'm able to get a great mix of the two.
It's awesome when playing solo. I'm able to have a bed of strings that follows my every move. And by keeping the volume of Sunrizer a bit lower than my Jamup presets, it covers up the small amount of latency cause by the pitch-to-midi conversion.
Also, some patches in Sunrizer work better than others. Be sure to set Midimorphosis to transmit chords, not just single notes. If you get latency or pops and clicks, set Midimorphosis for single notes and that usually cleans it up. Also helpful is limiting the number of pedals you have running in Jamup. I've found that the more effects you run, the greater risk of pops and glitches.
I run my straight Acoustic 360/LA-2A preset, with a touch of OD, then add the synth. Sounds awesome.
Haven't tried it yet myself, but it does seem to have quite a bit of delay before playing the MIDI note?
Maybe I should hook up my old Yamaha G50 MIDI interface and compare. If I can find the pickup and cable for it.
Maybe I should hook up my old Yamaha G50 MIDI interface and compare. If I can find the pickup and cable for it.
Just a hair, yes. The reason is that it isn't a midi pickup. The pitch to midi conversion takes longer the lower the note. I tried it with my acoustic/electric guitar but my bass actually tracked better. It isn't perfect, but what do ya want for two bucks!
There has to be a fairly serious violation of some of the basic laws of physics in our
universe to correctly determine the pitch of low notes without some latency.
Sad but true. I've been trying for years.
Keeps getting closer though.
"pitch detection latency" sucks, but it's the law until it's repealed by somebody.
universe to correctly determine the pitch of low notes without some latency.
Sad but true. I've been trying for years.
Keeps getting closer though.
"pitch detection latency" sucks, but it's the law until it's repealed by somebody.
Definitely. Even with the small amount of latency, I can see this being useful in a live situation. Maybe a string pad underneath my bassline in a ballad.
Especially if the pads are rounded and atmospheric. I did find that some of the arps tracked surprisingly well, and did even better when I transposed the notes up 12 or even 24 in some instances. Made things pretty lush. I've got a million writing ideas going around in my head but for now, I have to get my iOS rig mounted.
The Art CleanBox came, the rack tray, and my wireless and my in ears and my BBE are mounted and linked. I've decided against the S100, as it's main use would be as a compressor, and I already have the monitor signal lightly compressed coming to me. So I traded space for unnecessary compression. Besides, I have a set of rack tabs for my GK on the way, and it'll work nice in there for my analog rig. I have to take my daughter to softball tryouts, and then when I get back home, I'll run some tests and post how it works. Still waiting on the adapter to determine if it will charge and do throughput at the same time, and then I'll be buying a longer 30 pin cable up in town. But, for testing's sake, it's wired and live. I'll have to see how it works as far as monitoring my sound via the return send in the cleanbox. Is it separate as I hoped, or is it all one beast? Only time will tell.
The fun thing is this. I've actually considered still running my Zoom B9.1ut along with that as an AB for some of the synth-bass stuff that the Zoom won't do, like arps, a wider variety of wave forms, etc. Maybe just have it in my effect send and return on my Zoom and switchable that way.
Hmmmm. This could get REALLY fun!
The Art CleanBox came, the rack tray, and my wireless and my in ears and my BBE are mounted and linked. I've decided against the S100, as it's main use would be as a compressor, and I already have the monitor signal lightly compressed coming to me. So I traded space for unnecessary compression. Besides, I have a set of rack tabs for my GK on the way, and it'll work nice in there for my analog rig. I have to take my daughter to softball tryouts, and then when I get back home, I'll run some tests and post how it works. Still waiting on the adapter to determine if it will charge and do throughput at the same time, and then I'll be buying a longer 30 pin cable up in town. But, for testing's sake, it's wired and live. I'll have to see how it works as far as monitoring my sound via the return send in the cleanbox. Is it separate as I hoped, or is it all one beast? Only time will tell.
The fun thing is this. I've actually considered still running my Zoom B9.1ut along with that as an AB for some of the synth-bass stuff that the Zoom won't do, like arps, a wider variety of wave forms, etc. Maybe just have it in my effect send and return on my Zoom and switchable that way.
Hmmmm. This could get REALLY fun!
Adam, what's the Cleanbox for in your signal chain? I've read up on it a little but don't really see what it does for iOS.
Actually, it's me who has the Cleanbox. 
It balances the signal out of the iTrack Solo (1/4 stereo or stereo phono outs) as a direct box, and unbalances the signal coming back from the board and going into my BBE Maximizer (TRS inputs).
It balances the signal out of the iTrack Solo (1/4 stereo or stereo phono outs) as a direct box, and unbalances the signal coming back from the board and going into my BBE Maximizer (TRS inputs).
Actually, it's me who has the Cleanbox.
Oops! I'm a bit brain-fried today. Thanks. Gotcha. Wasn't sure what purpose it would serve.
… and I have a couple of things I need to address, such as an RCA out of the Art Cleanbox and into the BBE, vs. a dodgy 1/8 stereo to RCA. In fact, I've got to pick up an RCA-RCA to go from the iTrack to the Cleanbox anyway, so a second shouldn't be too big of a deal.
To test it, I ran out of the Cleanbox and into my small Behringer board. If it sounds acceptable there, it'll only sound that much more amazing through the Soundcraft system we'll be running through this weekend. So, I listened via my earbuds and HOLY CRAP there was this HUGE hiss! I mean HUGE! I ws freaking out that I bought a dud Cleanbox.
Turns out, I hadn't taken into account that the Cleanbox boosts the signals coming out of the iTrack Solo, which already has a substantial gain component in the Focusrite preamps. So once I spent a few minutes dialing that in, I ran a line from the board's monitor send to the balanced input of the Cleanbox, and then from the Cleanbox to the BBE, which is then sent to the GA900 IEMs.
I then plugged my in-ears into the jack on the front of the GA 900 and it was silent. No bass. Which was good, because I still had yet to turn up the send on the channel the bass was in, which meant that the Cleanbox handles my signal balancing output and my monitor input signal exchange separate of one another. So, essentially, it's a one-stop direct box and monitor input, just like I'd hoped it would be.
It'll take another day or so to get the signal completely dialed in but so far, it's all operational.
To test it, I ran out of the Cleanbox and into my small Behringer board. If it sounds acceptable there, it'll only sound that much more amazing through the Soundcraft system we'll be running through this weekend. So, I listened via my earbuds and HOLY CRAP there was this HUGE hiss! I mean HUGE! I ws freaking out that I bought a dud Cleanbox.
Turns out, I hadn't taken into account that the Cleanbox boosts the signals coming out of the iTrack Solo, which already has a substantial gain component in the Focusrite preamps. So once I spent a few minutes dialing that in, I ran a line from the board's monitor send to the balanced input of the Cleanbox, and then from the Cleanbox to the BBE, which is then sent to the GA900 IEMs.
I then plugged my in-ears into the jack on the front of the GA 900 and it was silent. No bass. Which was good, because I still had yet to turn up the send on the channel the bass was in, which meant that the Cleanbox handles my signal balancing output and my monitor input signal exchange separate of one another. So, essentially, it's a one-stop direct box and monitor input, just like I'd hoped it would be.
It'll take another day or so to get the signal completely dialed in but so far, it's all operational.
God damn midimorphosis is amazing. Tracks really well for me, almost no latency above the 12th fret. It inspired me to get the Line 6 sonic port and it worked better than I'd hoped - with the extra 1/4" out I can go straight into my pedalboard out of animoog! I can finally feed my BEF Pro the synth sounds I've always wanted to.
I'm wondering if the Cleanbox would do anything different for me than my BDI21, which I use as a DI box.
So you're plugging your IEM into the Cleanbox (I know there's other stuff in between, but the CB handles monitoring?)?
I use an iPhone for all this stuff, not an iPad. Still, I'm looking for something like the USB Dual Pre, that will work with the iPhone. My biggest drawback is that the CCK doesn't work on my device. I would love to go with the Art USB Dual Pre, so I can eliminate the headphone jack from my chain and possibly get a bit better sound quality (not that I currently have any issues).
The ART stuff really looks like its made for our purposes. There's quite a few of their devices that are helpful to iOS rigs.
Guys,
My stepson is asking how to get the motorpsycho bass tone?
I'm not home so I do not have access to my usual basses and I do not know Motorpsycho in general. He refer to his big growly lows.
My stepson is asking how to get the motorpsycho bass tone?
I'm not home so I do not have access to my usual basses and I do not know Motorpsycho in general. He refer to his big growly lows.
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