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iOS Bass Players Thread #5, V, or cinco, take yer pick.

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You're making me feel bad for selling my PSM200 setup :p but I always struggle getting a monitor feed sent to me without carrying a 12u rack for the onstage mixing :p

But nice setup, I'll be playing with mine seriously over the next few weeks.

Our guitarist runs a PSM200, that's a good rig. As soon as we either ditch the songs with synth bass or I am able to come up with a decent replacement patch (currently running a Zoom B9.1ut and the synth modeling is really good and I can't replicate that synth sound without it), I'll be moving to an entirely iOS based rig that fits in a camera bag. LOL
 
Pedestrian question....fairly new to iOS stuff but I'm using an Akai Synthstation primarily as a synth with audio outs feeding the 2nd input on my amp. This uses the 30 pin connection to attach to the ipad. I was thinking of getting a Keith McMillen Soft Step to control loopy, but the camera kit would also want to use the 30 pin connection. Is there a way to run a USB device into the headphone port simultaneously? Basically like a camera kit for that input.
 
Yesterday I played my contest song for a friend of mine and as it was playing he said, "hmm...has a good U2 feel to it".
????
That was the second time someone told me that....
....the first time I thought ...ok....good.
The second time was, ?????
That's not what I was shooting for but the coincidence made me wonder.
So I thought I would ask you guys.....
Did you get the "U2 vibe" from that song?

No, I didn't hear that at first listen - but if I listen looking for the U2 vibe - it is there.

If that were Bono singing we would be listening to this on the radio today!

And you would need to simplify the bass line to make it a true U2 song. :rolleyes:


New tune today. Well, one I've been working on for a few days, redone with cleaner tracks.

http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/clean/s-wnxAy

Still needs vocals and lead guitar, but its getting closer!

Some HUGE sounding pasture for the lead guitar and vocals to graze upon.

Also some really cool sounds and nice "touches" thrown in.

As it sits it is a bit long - but I expect you to fill it up and keep us rivited to our speakers for the entire 6:42!

:cool:
 
Hope you guys don't mind, but I'm gonna gripe a bit and it's sorta iOS related.

Some of you guys know I play in two bands, one being Jade Season with April, and the other being a dance rock band called UGT. We're a bit of a big deal locally, making some waves, playing some really good paying gigs and becoming a regional draw. The guitarist and I are new to the band, coming from another band that had gone under due to the drummer's work schedule and overtime. We work very hard, and have the understanding that when you rehearse, you come to practice prepared, with your parts learned and down cold. Rehearsals are for assembly, not for hammering out the shape of the bumpers and deciding whether or not you're building a truck or a car.

It's been going on for some time now that the singer and the drummer, who are both founding members of this band, come to practice very ill-prepared. So much so that it takes upwards of 2-3 hours to get two songs sorted out. On top of that, I set us up to rehearse using IEMs, and the drummer constantly bitches at me about not being able to hear anything, all the while beating the holy hell out of his drums. For the same reasons Rip has mentioned in the past, I wanted this transition, because his drums and cymbals were so loud during rehearsals that it was flat-out deafening. And instead of buying the sound-isolating buds I suggested, he bought a set of Westones that actually cost more, but bleed volume in. The guitarist and I are both running iOS rigs are rehearsal, so we've really been able to dial in an fantastic rehearsal mix and replicate how we monitor live. To me, it's been helpful, except for the drummer and to a somewhat smaller degree, the singer's lack of preparation.

Maybe that is the norm for some bands, but we're not talking Rush or Dream Theater here, we're talking about Nothin' But A Good Time and Ke$ha's Crazy Kids. Not exactly musically taxing, and it's apparent that two of us didn't do our homework.

And while we eventually get the songs nailed down, it's pretty frustrating to commit this amount of time to working out songs and then come to rehearsal and other members haven't committed the time to the work that is necessary.

It's gotten to the point that, after our gigs in August and September, I don't know if I want to continue with this project, regardless of whether or not it's monetarily lucrative.

To top off the issues, it's also apparent that the drummer, who is the BL more or less, doesn't know his parts, and doesn't know the sets very well, and the singer is FOREVER looking at her lyric sheets. The drummer has decided he wants to do a side project of a Queensryche tribute band as well, which will further put us behind the 8-Ball when it comes to keeping our paying gig in order. Previous attempts to right this ship have been met with the word "douchebag" due to the way in which it was handled, with frustration boiling over into an explosion.

Now, I still think that if the right tack is taken, things could get back into a more productive mode and we can rescue this as a group. However, it's been a long standing issue with these guys (I've subbed with them on several occasions in the past). They've felt that if they've done the songs for X amount of times they no longer need to rehearse them, and should be able to recall them at will. Which I agree, should be the case. But it doesn't appear to work out that well when two of the 4 members are the only ones rehearsing the songs on their own.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how you politely tell someone to pull their head out of their posterior, and start taking the work seriously, because we're past the point of weekend warrior bands where apathy is sometimes par for the course. Our gigs are paying the band in the lower- to mid-four figure range and are covering multiple states now, and it's embarrassing to go onstage and have a song that we should KNOW cold nearly trainwreck in front of 1,500 people. It's not the level of professionalism I expect and, like I said, it's extremely embarrassing.

Tell the drummer that even Peart is using IEM. Actually Rush were among the first major act to have no amps on stage. The amps Alex had on stage were just on standby mode.The Police rehearsed for 3 months before their last tour.
 
Well it would be to two different apps both running in audiobus. Headphone port soft step for loopy and the 30 pin to the Synthstation for whatever drum machine or synth I have dialed in.

If only the Synthstation 49 had a midi in!

Maybe just a USB to headphone port adapter?
 
I just tried it and what seems to happen is that different audio sources override each other. If nothing is plugged in I can only select microphone as input. If I plug in the iRig in the headphone jack, then that becomes the only input source. If I then plug in the Guitarjack it takes over as the only selectable source (though it has two inputs). And it's the same in all running apps, so I think we have to conclude it is not possible.

If you want parallel inputs I believe you have to use something like the Guitarjack or a USB compliant source with multiple channels.
 
Hmm, I think I misunderstood. I don't know what would happen with MIDI, maybe it's possible to use the headphones for audio and the 30 pin for MIDI at the same time. I've only done MIDI+audio using the Alesis IO Dock, and it uses the 30 pin for everything.

Hopefully someone has tried it and can chime in.
 
Not sure if it would work, but it would be awesome to control Sunrizer XS with my bass!! I could come up with hundreds of uses for it, if it works for iOS.

Rip, the app midimorphosis promises to do just that, and It's on sale this weekend for two bucks. Haven't bad the time to test it out yet, but the demos on youtube looks promising. Maybe anyone else in here has tried it and can tell how well it works with a bass.
 
Well, I figured out a way to continue working towards a single signal chain and rack for my iOS rig. I have an old (very old, but sturdy) Sonic 4U rack that currently houses an older Digitech Studio S100, my BBE 362, and my GA900 IEM system. So I bought a Raxxess Universal 1U rack space shelf with the slots drilled in the bottom for bottom-mounted items, and will be installing my Audio Technica ATW700 wireless in it. Sitting right NEXT to that will be my Focusrite iTrack Solo (with a little velcro) and an extension cable for my iPhone so it will be able to be attached outside the rack, as well as a Cablejive DockStubz Plus converter so I can charge my iPhone at the same time that I am using it to process my signal. Next to the iTrack will be the DI box, front facing so all connections that need to be made will be on the front (something I liked about the DI on my GK from back in the day). All of the power components will be connected to a surge protected power supply in the back of the rack that will be velcro'd in place and have all of the wires neatly zip-tied out of the way.

The Raxxess should be here on Tuesday, I'll try to get it installed and get some pics of it after it gets here. It'll be in use (somewhat) on this upcoming weekend's festival gigs in Iowa and Illinois, so I'll let you guys know how it performs. Should be interesting. I also have an Art CleanBox Pro on the way to handle the unbalanced phono to balanced XLR conversion, and if it works the way it looks like it works, I could actually run a balanced XLR monitor signal into this at the same time and send that to the BBE, to the GA900 and to my ears.

Fingers crossed!
 
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