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iOS, iPhone, iPad and music 101

Just a standard 1/8" to 1/4" cable to connect the phone to the DI? Or is it something specific?

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Mono Output Adapter: iLine mono out adapter

This cable converts 1/8" (3.5mm) stereo output to 1/4" (6.35mm) mono signal. Use this to send your stereo output from your iDevice into a mono input device like a guitar amplifier or a mono-input powered speaker. Use it to connect your iRig and AmpliTube (or whatever you use) setup on your device to your guitar amplifier. It features a 3.5mm (1/8") male connector and a 1/4" (6.35mm) mono female connector. (Use your standard 1/4" guitar or speaker cable to complete the connection.) Length: 11.8" (30cm).

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Bit pricy but very high quality and convenient. Sounds much better than the Radio Shack one I had. You can get just the one(s) you want OR get them all....Invalid Link Removed

Hosa makes a 3.5mm TRS to 1/4" TS as well for around US$5.
 
I don't recall who made one and posted it several weeks ago...but it inspired me to make a specific cord of my own (on the cheap, even). Each 3.5mm connector was about 4 bucks (RadioShack). One is a solder on, the other is a screw on (which works and holds well). I hacked off the end of an extra 5' cord and soldered a 3.5mm on to it. The short cord--something else I had on hand--was a bit thinner and was able to pass through the tension relief spring of the screw-on gold connector.

I like it much better than my old adapter(s) setup.

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Ok so say you are going to a gig with your ipad hooked to an alesis dock with jamup xt. What if you wanted to have something like an amp without using the house pa or maybe one isnt being used for bass and you need or want your own speaker on stage.

Can you do the Ipad>DI or di/preamp (like aguilar tone hammer)>your own PA speaker or bass cabinet? Do even need a DI for something like this? How about a mixer?

Basically use your Ipad as the preamp with a cabinet or speaker.

I have a Carvin BRX 4.10 and Carvin B800 that I want to sell, so I can move to a lighter Ipad setup. Just trying to figure out everything I need and if I should just get a light speaker to take with me to use qwith the Ipad.
 
This. You will still need something to provide power. The iPad/Alesis won't drive your cabs.

I typically run into the effects return of my amp, which bypasses the amp's preamp and allows me to use just the power section of my amp. Jamup provides the preamp.

It will drive one of the newer powered PA cabs, though. I like the QSC K12 and HP112's a lot...
 
You know what that's a great idea.

What would stop someone from using an ipad straight into a powered pa speaker or even better one of the new powered gallien-kreuger bass cabinets?

In a word, nothing. In fact, that's an ideal solution. You may have problems getting a sound guy to mic a PA cab, but as long as you can send a DI signal to the FOH, you're good.

I usually split my signal to send a DI to the board while another cable supplies the signal to my amp.
 
You know what that's a great idea.

What would stop someone from using an ipad straight into a powered pa speaker or even better one of the new powered gallien-kreuger bass cabinets?

You wouldn't (I believe) be able to used one of the new GK powered cabs; they don't have a standard input and are supposed to be used specifically as extension cabs for GK combos/amps:
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If you run the signal into your amp via the effects return or power amp input, you can bypass your amp's preamp section and use it strictly as a power amp.

This would allow you to use one tone for everything, and have your Jamup tone going through your stage amp.

What type of cable would you need to use for this? Stereo 1/8 to a mono 1/4"?? CRAP.. just noticed the answer up in post 885... that's the problem with these threads... they are too big and don't search well.. you have to be lucky enough to stumble across your answer ;)

But your speakers on your amp are bass guitar voiced but the PA "should" be high-fi voiced so a cd playing or piano or a human voice or bass guitar or guitar "should" sound like the source....it seems that running into a specific voiced cab would color the signal more. I haven't tried it that way it just seems to me like it would be colored much different than what your sending to FOH. So it would be difficult to monitor yourself that way. But for just playing by yourself with just the amp in a room for practice you could probably dial in a very nice tone.

This is probably true. There are a number of good 3-way or full range bass cabinets that are actually more like a PA cabinet. Acme's are a good example or any other bass cab that features built-in crossovers and a driver to handle each range.
 
I actually found that by running everything through my Roland vs880 I was able to connect the headphones output into my irig and then individually record each instrument. By turning the volume on the Roland up and turning the volume down on my actual guitar/bass and tweaking the gain on the Roland and garage bands amp simulator I was able to get ZERO buzz!
Then I connected my shure SM57 and 58 and used the amp simulator using the sparkling clean and I got some pretty good results. Then just for kicks, I tried mic'ing my cajon and got some good results after tweaking for a few minutes.
I know many people don't like the irig and think that iOS recording can't achieve results comparable to a studio recorded session, but I'm pretty determined to get as close as possible to that "studio sound".

I'll post some sound clips later when I find a good song to cover and also some pictures so you can see what I'm talking about.
 
I've got a VS880 too, so I get what you're saying. You're using the VS as a preamp. If you think you're getting good results with the irig, imagine how great it would be with the Apogee Jam!!

There are ways to increase the output from irig as you've just found, but eventually you hit a wall that can't be overcome as long as you're using the headphone/mic connection. It's not irig so much as the input that's at fault. Unfortunately, as long as the headphone/mic jack is used for input, you will always get some amount of noise, but more important is the amount of crosstalk from that being the point of input.
 
Yeah, I know what you're saying about the crosstalk, I didn't notice it at first but realized it a little later. I'm hopefully going to upgrade to the apogee jam soon, just waiting on the funds for that. There's some other stuff I'm buying before that like a new cab and head which should set me back quite a bit! If only money grew on trees 😔
 

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