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iPhone 5 has been unveiled...
- Thread starter Eric Perry
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didn't I see a thread yesterday about the Goophone? The Chinese allegedly "cloned" (okay, stolen,,lol) version of the new Iphone which according to the thread they patented?
does a day late and a dollar short apply here?
does a day late and a dollar short apply here?
Alkali Ike
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The company I work for offers employees who need a work phone the choice of Android or iPhone. 80% choose iPhone.
I was never an ipod or iphone fan. I think they are pretty lame. Flashy, yes. The best? I don't think so. I will gladly take a GS2 OR 3 anyday. I think the whole iphone thing is more of a fad than actual purchase for functionality. I can't tell you how many girls I've seen with white iphones in pink otter boxes, or men with black iphones in belt clips. Its kinda funny because hipsters love them but everything about them is conformity and indifferent. Learn how to utilize Android. You will be much happier
Hardware specs or "rootability" mean nothing to most people. They don't mean much to me either, and I'm a techie - I've never had any interest in jailbreaking my iDevices. It's all about responsiveness, user experience and software. On those metrics, Apple's got everyone beat.
Their UI is simple, consistent and ubiquitous, they've got far more in the way of apps and content than any other platform, and their feature set is more comprehensive (to the degree that every other phone maker copied it).
Still, the iPhone 5 is an evolutionary upgrade. 4G and the bigger screen are nice, but not groundbreaking. Nothing Apple have released since the sad passing of Steve Jobs has been new or groundbreaking, they've just been new versions of existing products. They need to release something that's actually a completely new product soon, or people will start thinking that they're sitting on their laurels instead of innovating in the same way they always have, and that the loss of Jobs had had a severe negative effect on their ability to innovate.
Their UI is simple, consistent and ubiquitous, they've got far more in the way of apps and content than any other platform, and their feature set is more comprehensive (to the degree that every other phone maker copied it).
Still, the iPhone 5 is an evolutionary upgrade. 4G and the bigger screen are nice, but not groundbreaking. Nothing Apple have released since the sad passing of Steve Jobs has been new or groundbreaking, they've just been new versions of existing products. They need to release something that's actually a completely new product soon, or people will start thinking that they're sitting on their laurels instead of innovating in the same way they always have, and that the loss of Jobs had had a severe negative effect on their ability to innovate.
I never said that. I said that you can't do all the things that an iphone theoretically can't do, without rooting.
Honest question here: what is it that you can do with an Android based phone that you would be unable to do with an iPhone?
I love the idea of open source and being able to modify it etc. But if you don't want to have to invest the time and effort to do that, and you don't need the extra functionality of writing your own scripts of rooting etc then it's not really an advantage is it? Like a guy with a 3kw amp hooked up to a pair of 8x10's playing at bedroom volume in his apartment.
I think Android is the perfect platform for people who's hobby is messing with their phone, just like Linux is the perfect platform for folks who's hobby is messing with their OS. For people who just want to use their phone and not have to mess with it, Android (in my experience) is not on par.
Funny, I've always considered them less an innovator and more a REFINER of existing product, not one core product they offer was a first to market. Well, at least has not been for a long time. the iMac notwithstanding, but it too was just a refinement of the original mac in ooh-ah packaging. I give them props for design, integration and wow factor, but not a whole lot for innovation.
This I agree with. Without the whip cracking a-hole at the helm, I fear they are starting to list a little off their focus.
There are several that come to mind. The first is choosing a keyboard. This isn't just aesthetic, I use Smart Keyboard Pro on my Android, and it has a multitude of options, best being auto-text, like BlackBerrys have, where it automatically changes words to predefined words. "u" --> "you" for example. This is completely editable. I can set it to change "Eric" to "Greek God With A Huge Penis" if I want to. Although that would be a lie.
The options for e-mail clients and calendar clients are much broader for Android. At least they used to be a few years ago. I'm not sure if that's changed.
How about using my phone as a simple USB drive? I plug it in, via simple USB, and it shows up as a drive. SO much easier than iTunes, IMO.
Then there are widgets. Widgets make smartphone life easier. Iphones don't allow widgets.
How about the replaceable battery? As I said in a previous post, I have a spare battery at home on a dedicated charger. If my battery poops out, it takes all of 30 seconds to swap it out for a full charge. I throw the dead one on the charger, and in a few hours that one is at 100% as well.
Let's talk about removable storage. My phone gladly accepts MicroSD cards. They show up immediately in the File Manager. Simple, and amazingly absent in iDevices.
I know Flash has gone the way of the dino, but many sites still rely on it. Works just dandy on my phone. Not so much on an iPhone.
In the more aesthetic region the biggest one is the custom launcher. A launcher is basically a "skin". it's what you see of the GUI. I can use one of multiple launchers available, and tweak it however I see fit. I can change icons for individual apps, I can rename 'em, or remove the text as a whole.
Look up Tasker for Android. It's an incredible app, and it almost wholly automates your phone, based on your calendar, your clock, hell, even your GPS location. it does incredible things. iPhone (as far as I know) has nothing even remotely similar.
These are just the first things I was able to think of. Gimmie a few and I'll think of more. I may not be 100% accurate, because I haven't owned an iPhone since my 3GS, so if I'm wrong on some counts, I apologize.
It didnt happen to my Droid Incredible when I dropped it on the sidewalk going 25mph.
The only issue Ive had with my Incredible is that after I dropped it the last time, I think I messed something up with the speaker.
One reason I wont get an iphone is that I use my phone as an mp3 player, and I dont want to use itunes on my computer.
For their computer line, certainly. But they basically invented the modern multi-touch smartphone with the iPhone, but that was down mostly to their innovations in user experience and interface design. There had been other touchscreen phones, like the Palm Treos and the old WinCE phones, but none of them had an interface that was designed from the ground up for a touchscreen with multitouch, gestures, etc. It's the UI that separates the iPhone from all that came before it, and it's the UI that every other smartphone maker has been copying (with the exception of the latest version of Windows Phone - kudos to them for doing something different).
They're.......... Ok..........
^what these guys said ...
i like mine to bits... i even went low end hardware and go the HTC Radar (tmobile). I have absolutely no complaints about the phone or OS. Microsoft got it right with windows live as well IMO... I've grown to prefer using it over googles suite of tools they offer.
but this thread is about IPhones... i got my eye on a 3GS waiting for the price to plummet at people start upgrading... i want to tinker with it
There are several that come to mind. The first is choosing a keyboard. This isn't just aesthetic, I use Smart Keyboard Pro on my Android, and it has a multitude of options, best being auto-text, like BlackBerrys have, where it automatically changes words to predefined words. "u" --> "you" for example. This is completely editable. I can set it to change "Eric" to "Greek God With A Huge Penis" if I want to. Although that would be a lie.
I believe something similar is available for iphone.
Can't speak to this one.
One for the Android, if it's true one cannot do so. Not sure.
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I f***ing hate widgets. And even with them turned off as much as possible sans rooting my battery life is still crap. Can't imagine how poor it'd be with them on.
And if you aren't able to get to a charger several times in a day? Stock battery lasts maybe 3 hours. If I have to buy a docking station and 2-3 extra batteries (both for home and for work) that 1. isn't exactly convenient & 2. sort of negates the the cost advantage.
I always thought this was a huge advantage. But at this point I find it difficult to imagine using more than the 32 or 64g built in on an iphone. If you want to buy a 100+gig microsd and need that much storage I admit it's an advantage. I'm not sure how many folks would need that, and I do not personally.
True, but I loathe flash so I avoid any sites using it if at all possible now (when I am on android).
Look, I hate Apple as a company. I'm the exact opposite of a fanboy. But it pisses me off to hear people acting like anyone who chooses differently from them must be some style obsessed hipster. Both platforms have strengths and weaknesses. Choose the one that suits you best, and stop acting like choosing a different phone than you is a moral failure.
When I got my Android, my 3GS got relegated to iPod status in my car. iSimple makes a pretty awesome adapter for iDevices where I can control my iPhone right from the steering wheel, and all data shows up on the nav screen in my car. I never even touch or see the iPhone. Uber snazzy!...but this thread is about IPhones... i got my eye on a 3GS waiting for the price to plummet at people start upgrading... i want to tinker with it
I absolutely agree. There have been similar threads in the past about iPhones, and I've never been negative. For many people, iPhones are perfect for them. I get that and respect it.
This thread was about the iPhone 5, and how it didn't offer us anything new that other smartphones haven't been doing for a year or more. That's all. I don't think that's really debatable either. Big screen, LTE, HD video capture, etc.... It's all been done. What did Apple really give their users with the iPhone 5. That's why I started the thread. If I were an iPhone user, I'd feel slighted (again). The 4S was a whole bunch of nuthin', and the 5 isn't much more, IMHO.
If anything, I feel they may have alienated some Apple fans by swapping out the charger design. No more cross-compatibility. Stupid move, IMO.
Regarding your battery comment, I easily get a full day out of my GS2. I plug it in once a day, before bed. It's rare I use it so much during the day I need to juice up. Not unheard of, but rare. On the GS3, the battery specs far oveshadow the iPhones. No idea if that will translate into real-world advantages or not though. Obviously, the big 4.8" screen is a battery sucker on the Android.
The ease of popping out the card and having gigs upon gigs of data from your phone ready to transfer to any other device that accepts SD is the benefit, not the overall storage capacity. At least, for me that's the benefit.
I easily get a full day on the Droid3 extended battery. I have WiFi on all day, send 50-75 text messages, check e-mail 30 times, surf the internet for an hour total maybe two, play some simple card games, look at info from a couple of my apps like MLB At Bat and NHL Gamecenter. The stock battery would burn out after about eight hours doing that. At least I had the option to put in something that would last longer, and it fit under the stock battery cover. It added about 2mm to the thickness of the device. Instead of a slight contour down the back, it is all even now.
I really don't know where people get these three hour Android battery life numbers. I could see it if you were on WiFi, streaming a video, using it as a WiFi hot spot, and playing some game like Angry Birds. I suppose it would burn out in three hours or so, but I think an iPhone would too.
-Mike
I really don't know where people get these three hour Android battery life numbers. I could see it if you were on WiFi, streaming a video, using it as a WiFi hot spot, and playing some game like Angry Birds. I suppose it would burn out in three hours or so, but I think an iPhone would too.
-Mike
