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Iron Ether Subterranea

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bassvirtuoso said:
My OC-2 is MUCH cleaner sounding than this. It is clearly the synth voices I hear bleeding through, I don't get this kind of noise on my OC-2. I'm talking when you have the Octave up, the filter completely CCW, then just mute the strings. I hear the synth voice.

I guess I keep bringing this up because I've read other people have heard this too. Some members said this was a defect with the very first run, which is why I'm confused as to why I hear it on a month old pedal...
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I'm pretty sure it just doesn't get "clean." From what Taylor told me when i contacted him, it's just the way the circuit is and it can't get totally clean. I believe the old ones with the issue were much worse. I play with in-ears almost all the time and I think that makes it much more noticeable. I'm guessing through an amp it wouldn't be quite as obvious. I sold mine almost immediately after I got it just because I need a clean octave more than a dirty one...it sounds amazing but just didn't work for my set up. Although I don't recall hearing anything when the strings were muted...did you have any sort if hum going on that could have been causing that?

Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of that, as I'm no expert...just what I experienced when I got mine.
 
#1,446
I think that as far as the 'dirt' in the clean octave sound goes it's only really an issue if you want to use the pedal for a clean octave sound. I've found that the SubT really shines as I think it's intended - as the oscillator at the beginning of the synth chain. So if you run any kind of dirt/modulation etc you really won't notice this 'problem'. you may however, be rewarded with phat, syrupy bass synth tones :)

For me I'll still be using an OC2 or similar for my straight up oct sounds, along with having more options.

Cheers

Ben
 
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The subT has bumped octabass off my main board (octabass is now on guitar board and sounds great that way!).
Great clean octabe tone, embelished a few songs in our repertoire.
A bonus surprise, i was able to use the synth voices to replace dirt on one song. Use to drive sansamp and play low (D to A riff), but synth voices worked great instead!
 
#1,449
New to this thread, will have to go to the first post and catch up... BUT - I did get my new Sub T yesterday (ordered June 5th). First impression? Mind blown. Sure, it's noisy - but I expected it to be... basically it took me 4 pedals to achieve the sound that this thing gives me. I do need to dial it in a bit, but I am having a blast rumbling the house. I'm compressing the signal into it a bit, then following it with a slight envelope and this thing just flat crushes.
 
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Hey there ! I recieved mine 2 weeks ago and tried it for the first time today... And I'm really surprised by the noise .. I watched every Youtube clips, and I've never heard that : it´s like a synth octave bleeding continually ( even when all the volume controls -octave, clean, octo synth and uni synth- are fully CCW...) Is my pedal broken ? I mean , I was expecting some noise , but this is like a huge flaw to my ears... (Pardon my poor english, I'm French..) it would be the ultimate octave/synth without this hiss ..
 
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manfred741 said:
Hey there ! I recieved mine 2 weeks ago and tried it for the first time today... And I'm really surprised by the noise .. I watched every Youtube clips, and I've never heard that : it´s like a synth octave bleeding continually ( even when all the volume controls -octave, clean, octo synth and uni synth- are fully CCW...) Is my pedal broken ? I mean , I was expecting some noise , but this is like a huge flaw to my ears... (Pardon my poor english, I'm French..) it would be the ultimate octave/synth without this hiss ..
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That was my exact complaint a few posts back and everyone is telling me this is the design of the pedal for better/worse. I was hoping this would stay as clean as my OC-2 and I guess it's not supposed to do that.
 
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bassvirtuoso said:
That was my exact complaint a few posts back and everyone is telling me this is the design of the pedal for better/worse. I was hoping this would stay as clean as my OC-2 and I guess it's not supposed to do that.
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Did we ever nail down for certain whether this is (a) just the way the new ones are, (b) the old version of the pedal with known noise bleed, or (c) potentially a lemon?
 
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bassvirtuoso said:
That was my exact complaint a few posts back and everyone is telling me this is the design of the pedal for better/worse. I was hoping this would stay as clean as my OC-2 and I guess it's not supposed to do that.
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That wasn't the same issue you described (ie- you never mentioned that yours had a synth bleed with all the controls down). I also maintain that my SubT does get as clean as my OC-2, and doesn't have anything resembling a second voice bleeding into the signal- listen to the demo video I posted in reply to you earlier. Mine sounds exactly like the second video, which to my ears has a fairly clean Octave voice.

If your pedal is making noise with all the controls turned down or when you are not playing it is definitely a dud. Ditto if it is not capable of getting an Octave voice similar to the cleaner video I posted earlier when fed a reasonable input signal.
 
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eveilleu said:
That's also exactly how mine sounds... that's a nice demo.

Eric
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Not my demo (just in case that was unclear!). I just searched for demos that might more clearly illustrate the difference between the original "synth bleed" version and a properly functioning Sub so people could see more clearly if theirs is not working as intended...
 
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Just a quick heads up:

I've just set up a new pedal board and was puzzled that the SubT sounded different from what it did before, with certain tracking glitches that greatly affected the pedal's performance. After messing around with it a bit, I found it was the bass's fault: my bass is very high-output, and the volume was probably overloading the SubT's circuits, exactly the same way it overloads the Boss OC-2. The solution, for me, is the same on both cases: just turn down the volume knob n the bass a bit, and the pedal works flawlessly (I probably had it lower when I first tested the pedal, and had it dimed on the second test). Because the SubT allows for actual increased gain by turning the voice knobs past noon, the overall volume can be kept the same as if I was playing with the bass's volume fully dimed.

On the leaking synth tone being discussed, I have experienced none of that. If you're using Clean Octave down alone (no synths), and filter fully CCW, it's a very smooth sound. As you turn the filter CW, you'll get more and more synthiness added to the octave (I personally like to run it with the filter at about 2 o'clock).
 

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