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Iron Ether Subterranea

Theoretical question- if you had a Subterranea, an Oxide and a Xerograph Deluxe what order should they be in on your board? I understand that the S should feed the XD, but where does fuzz fit in?

I would go SubT first for best tracking, oxide second to add an optional heavier sound, and XeroD last because all of that harmonic content will make the sweeps sound huge.
 
Theoretical question- if you had a Subterranea, an Oxide and a Xerograph Deluxe what order should they be in on your board? I understand that the S should feed the XD, but where does fuzz fit in?

Me, I would put the oxide between the sd and the Xero. That seems "conventional". Probably worth trying the oxide in the front, too, but I would be worried extreme fuzz might make pitch tracking more difficult.
 
Me, I would put the oxide between the sd and the Xero. That seems "conventional". Probably worth trying the oxide in the front, too, but I would be worried extreme fuzz might make pitch tracking more difficult.

Even in a world where fuzzes were well-trackable, doesn't this (or anything that truly 'tracks') turn your 'note' into another 'instrument' based on the same note? as in, at least philosophically, the fuzz would sound the same as a raw bass into the subT? either way, I don't think it would track well, though I suppose If it did... gamechanger


I would love to get my hands on an oxide/xero combo and just my switchers to toggle the order between the two.

I would say SubT>Oxide>Xero for sweepy synth fatness, whereas SubT>Xero>Oxide would have some interesting peak-y variable clip sound. Following up the latter with a compressor would make for a pretty interesting sound (the compressor taming the peaked fuzz freqs, though now im talking more generically about fuzz/filters)
 
I can't wait for this thing. I just want to compare it to my OC-2! Maybe some comparison clips would be possible? Might be in bad taste I guess.

Between my Mastotron, Geiger Counter and BEF Pro I'm pretty sure it will lead to insanity no matter what.
 
This sounds amazing. What I like is that both the Octo and Uni voice seem to follow the volume of your bass's signal, making them more responsive. The OC2 approach gives you that for the lower octave, but sounds like the Subt has an envelope follower for the Uni voice too.

I love using my Oxide as a synth voice, but because it's a gated fuzz, the volume is constant, which can be cool or can be limiting depending on the context.

Edit: listening again, the Octo voice isn't modulating the bass's signal, like an OC2 - it's just the waveform, so that is going through an envelope follower too.

I'm really curious as to how Taylor does the different waveforms - maybe it's a waveshaper working on the squarewave output of the OC2-style flip flops, with an octave doubler driving the Uni voice flip flop. But then the waveshape would vary from low pitches to high pitches... dunno.
 
Hey has anyone received and used their subterania yet? I'd totality like to know if this pedal is living up to what it says it's going to do and does. I've been looking for a GREAT octave pedal since I got my micro POG and the sub looks like the ticket.
 
LOL!

Not a bad strategy. But I've been waiting for this pedal for literally about a year and a half so I'm guessing you won't be seeing mine up for sale. ;)

I do think I may have to do a road trip to check yours out.

+2. Buy new, you punk (directed toward Matt lol).

As soon as I hear your clips, I'll very likely not be able to resist and will be assimilated!
 
I would go SubT first for best tracking, oxide second to add an optional heavier sound, and XeroD last because all of that harmonic content will make the sweeps sound huge.

Also try the fuzz first, then the octave.

Fuzz doesn't always make tracking worse - sometimes it can even make it better. Plus this way you get a clean octave under your distorted highs, which sounds much fatter to my ears.
 
Also try the fuzz first, then the octave.

Fuzz doesn't always make tracking worse - sometimes it can even make it better. Plus this way you get a clean octave under your distorted highs, which sounds much fatter to my ears.

This is a good point. As long as it doesn't affect the tracking too much, I might go:

OC2>Xblender>Oxide>SubT>FrantaBit>Xero>polytope>nimbus

This way I could get the best of both. I've been debating on whether I will still keep the OC2 on the board once the SubT arrives. I think I will, just to have it set up as a traditional octaver. This will avoid too much knob tweaking on stage, hopefully.