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Is it just me or ...? Neo content

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by audiorep2, May 15, 2018.

  1. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    Neo is showing up in the Powersoft M-Force moving magnet subwoofers
    The magnet is moving and the coil is steady. it makes more sense to have a lightweight magnet.
    All the heat sinking is done on the permanent coil side, but they have to also cool the magnet.

    The new portable tool trend is "brushless" motors where the neo magnets rotate and coil is static. The big thing here is wear and tear, and also better torque control.
  2. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    Magswitch has switchable permanent magnets.
    Switchable Permanent Magnets - Magswitch

    I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to make a gizmo to attach to the driver vent to allow adjustment of the magnetic field. Eminence might be doing this now with their guitar drivers. They Allow people to change the sound by adjusting the magnetic field. Playing with magnets on the driver would be a hack, and it may sound different, but sounding better one way or the other is subjective. The real goal of sounding right, and getting the most from the driver and magnet is what engineering and design are about.
  3. Kro

    Kro Supporting Member

    May 7, 2003
    New Jersey
    I’ll tell a little story. I too got a little too comfortable at one point with relying on the great FOH systems that populate all of the venues that I played at the time. Sure, I had a rig, but it was geared really for monitoring situations. Everything was great… until one of my guitarists decided to follow love 900 miles away – effectively putting the band on indefinite hiatus.

    What’s a musician to do? So I started searching for my next project, which involved a number of auditions. I still remember showing up to that first audition with those cabs that were excellent monitors, but that really couldn’t bring home the bacon so-to-speak. The audition went relatively well (I was the one that decided not to move forward), but the fact that I didn’t feel I was putting my best foot forward tone-wise killed me a little bit. At that very instant I immediately began obsessing over amps and cabs, eventually landing on the rig that I currently use and love.

    Moral of the story? My current cab is a neo.

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  4. JSandbloom

    JSandbloom Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2004
    Redding, Ca
    Grace Guitars USA
    I stand corrected.
  5. Wasnex


    Dec 25, 2011
    Problem solved ;).

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  6. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World

    Nov 25, 2008
    Isn't there usually a cup holder above the mixing board?
  7. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Under the console attached to the drive rack ;)
  8. MrLenny1


    Jan 17, 2009
    I use old cabs. Bag End and an Eden but
    use a Class D amp. Tempted by neo cabs but
    hate to drop the old cabs.
    So far I really like Mesa Subway.
  9. chris_b


    Jun 2, 2007
    People like to hold on to what they know. I'm surprised we ever made it out of caves.
  10. Wasnex


    Dec 25, 2011
    In my experience, few drunks can resist the allure of the dog house. Surely all of that flat space is meant to hold their drinks and lit cigarettes...probably the source of a few good bar fights :blackeye:.
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  11. mmbongo

    mmbongo Dilly Dilly! Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    They won't let me anywhere near the mixing board :(
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  12. BadExample


    Jan 21, 2016
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Damn these stone tools.

    Rightfully stolen from Far Side.
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  13. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    The doghouse also serves as a good barricade in an emergency situation ;)
  14. Wasnex


    Dec 25, 2011
    With really big mixing console you can hide in the dog house and pop out like a Jack in the Box...oops, I meant Ninja.
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  15. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    It's just you.
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  16. dbsfgyd1


    Jun 11, 2012
    Richmond , Va
    Just asking, but are the powerhouse cabs loaded with neos? Also, you wouldn’t happen to have a handle on the efficiency, and frequency range on the 2-10 and 4-10 cabs? I was on the Mesa web site and has some trouble locating that info. Thanks.

  17. StatesideRambler


    Jul 1, 2015
    Just curious: Is there any reason to care what materials were used in making the speakers before you listen to them? (It's a troll question, I'm sure but it nags at me.)
  18. BadExample


    Jan 21, 2016
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  19. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    No they are loaded with ceramic drivers. I don't have that exact information with me, but I think the 210 is about 96.5dB/1W/1M average sensitivity. I don't recall the other specs, but if call customer service on Monday, they can find out for you. My lab is in a different location from manufacturing and support.
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  20. Korladis

    Korladis Banned Supporting Member

    I didn't put JBLs in my cab because I play doom, and would be worried about wrecking vintage drivers. I don't use NOS tubes for the same reason.
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