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Is Squire a bad thing ?
- Thread starter Maszkman
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back in the day (2000ish?) you could get an MIM for like $100 more than the cheapest Squier, which made them a hard sell. Nowadays, Squier's quality is where old MIM's were and the rest of the stuff is overpriced IMO.
I used to build basses for local musicians after receiving training from a professional luthier. I've come to the conclusion all this hype about brands is just that -- hype. I gig with an SX bass that I paid $134 for years ago, and put new pickups into. Before that, I used a Squire Musicmaster and it was fine. If it plays well, is set up well, and sounds good, than you should be fine with a squire.
The only place I've heard it really matters is when you are recording in a professional studio as a hired gun. IN those cases, the sound engineers like to work with a known brand because they know how to get a decent sound out of it. Show up with something weird and they might complain they can't get a decent sound with it without incurring more studio time than the payor would like to invest.
Otherwise, I say love the squire and revel in all the money you re saving...
The only place I've heard it really matters is when you are recording in a professional studio as a hired gun. IN those cases, the sound engineers like to work with a known brand because they know how to get a decent sound out of it. Show up with something weird and they might complain they can't get a decent sound with it without incurring more studio time than the payor would like to invest.
Otherwise, I say love the squire and revel in all the money you re saving...
No one should ever criticize another person's instrument. No matter who the manufacturer is they follow business model of offering "good" "better" "best". There is a BIG difference in quality, especially after ownership of a few years between Fender Squire (Indonesia) and Fender USA. There is a big difference in quality between Warwick Rockbass (China) and a genuine German Warwick (Germany), there is a big difference in quality between Lakland Skyline (Indonesia) and Lakland USA, there is a big difference in quality between Sadowsky Metro (Indonesia) and Sadowsky NYC. I cannot explain to those who are not willing to understand. All of the basses are just fine. I do know it is not the arrow, it is the Indian, and at the same time I'll take an 8 year old old German Warwick, or an old USA Fender, or an old Sadowsky NYC, or an old USA Lakland over a brand new shiny Squire or a Rockbass or a Skyline or a Metro any day.
I agree and like what you are saying, but these are exactly the same except a American fender is a lot better quality wise. mostly the specs will be the deciding factor on what you like or do not like. These are the same specs, one just has higher grade materials and construction. That said, squire is fine. If you can rock a squire better than my fender, I'm not going to chastise you because mine cost more.
I've got the VM Jag and the Matt Freeman P Bass and I love them both. I also have a Yamaha TRB1005, and currently the Matt Freeman P is my fav of the three. I might update the pups and/or the tuners, but there's no rush. I regularly perform with all of them, they are reliable, and sound and feel fantastic.
Guess it's a bit amusing..., 2 years ago the lead player in my main band wanted to sell a few instruments (he has near 30 guitars, and basses). He brought 2 basses to practice, and asked if I had any interest in either. A mint, 10/10 CIJ '96 Fender Geddy Lee Jazz (as new), and a '75 or so MIJ Squier P bass, in decent , but played, and gigged condition. He said $550 for either, so I plugged in the Geddy, fell in love, bought it( keeping it for life). The Squier sat for a month in our practice room, in a case. I got it out, plugged it in for kicks, after a month...WOW, just WOW, all original, hands down the best P bass I've ever played, a snarling beast that cut through the mix with 10 inch fangs, (I was not turned up, it just ripped through), and.....I can use it whenever I want, but... I cannot buy it, nor can anyone else, he only wanted to get rid of one. I apologize to all the owners of amazing American Fender P Basses, I'd personally prefer to have that particular Squier...and I am certainly a Fender guy.
Sure, everything about MIA Fenders are more expensive than Squiers, it's just a question of are the better components worth the asking price for someone.
I feel exactly the same way.
They all work, they all make music, and they are all giggable. But I like nice things, and top-grade instruments feel and look just a little nicer. Sometimes, a lot nicer.
That said, there are a couple of sound people in my area who prefer my cheap Squire P5 over my $2,400 Dingwall. Unless I feel strongly about needing the Dingwall's extra bite for a particular gig, I try to keep them happy.
They know what they like, and they don't have to justify their feelings to me.
I had a vintage modified 70s Jazz with the Duncan designed pickups... I thought it sounded thin....
I just got a CV 50's Vibe P-Bass and am REALLY liking it. Maybe my other basses are "nicer" (LOTS more $$$) but this one is really nice, too!
Dan
Dan
I've wondered that for years between MIM and Mia.honestly
The MIM covers all I need it too, so I think
The early MIJ Squiers were excellent instruments. I owned a couple of Teles and a killer P bass.
IMO the Japanese Squiers from the first few years of production rival or surpass most of what Fender America was churning out at that time.
However, I don't think Squiers came along until '81 or '82. I am pretty certain there were no 1975 Squiers.
[prf="Dr. Cheese, post: 17440436, member: 39659"]Sure, everything about MIA Fenders are more expensive than Squiers, it's just a question of are the better components worth the asking price for someone.[/QUOTE]
I've wondered that for years between MIM and Mia.honestly
The MIM covers all I need it too, so I think I'll hold out on Mia
I've wondered that for years between MIM and Mia.honestly
The MIM covers all I need it too, so I think I'll hold out on Mia
Is this the single coil Mary Kay White model?
I was bass shopping a few months back and tried out one of those.
It was very, very hard to walk away from that bass, but I was in the market for a specific P bass and that's what i went home with.
I also played a Squier Cabronita at that time and really dug it as well.
