Wow!, The cab sounds alright, nothing too special to be honest, but what he plays around 2:40 is killin'! I'm gonna learn what he played around 2:40 on upright bass! haha..
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Is this good? Boom Bass Cabinet
- Thread starter Wumper
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Wow!, The cab sounds alright, nothing too special to be honest, but what he plays around 2:40 is killin'! I'm gonna learn what he played around 2:40 on upright bass! haha..
- Feb 12, 2006
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It's likely that the cabinet benefits from the HPF built into the amp (in the very low 30Hz range because it looks like he is using the LF extend filter)
Wow!, The cab sounds alright, nothing too special to be honest, but what he plays around 2:40 is killin'! I'm gonna learn what he played around 2:40 on upright bass! haha..
Hard to tell what it really sounds like from that video. Poor audio quality.
So, if you "wump" on the bass with no effects, would that be "dry wumping"?
I nominate this for best post of the year. In case it doesn't win that, I also nominate it for best summary on talkbass 2018. Don't forget to vote early and vote often.
No one can, other than purely subjectively. But that's not the point. For years you've made claims with no objective evidence to back them up. Now we have a number of players here that say from a subjective viewpoint they don't do what you claim either. I'm not saying that fearful is all that much better where the data is concerned, but at least they don't make claims that aren't backed up by facts. So to make an unnecessarily long thread even longer but at least answer the OP's question, if all you can go by is what people who've heard both think then fearful is the better brand.
Better for who and for what reasons? Isn't better somewhat of a "subjective" thing as better can have different meanings depending on an individual's desires & needs? To some the Fearful/Fealess cabs may very well be "better". To others, that may not be the case......
I couldn't disagree more. I used to think for obvious reasons.
I've made claims based on actual experience. Many who dismiss them say they don't even need to hear that. I'll leave that at that.
Some folks want to simplify the buying process by reading specs. The what should be obvious problem with that is that specs typically can't tell the entire story. In the case of BBC Tanks folks are bent on dismissing anecdotal info. But they have no problem with the same type of info from people who like what they like. How is that not hypocrisy?
Who asks for plots on a bass? People seem to understand how pointless that would ultimately be because they won't tell you what an instrument can sound like. So why are cabs different?
I went to a club where a friend was playing. He had a couple of boutique basses, an Ampeg head and IIRC an Epifani 310. And he sounded bad... no punch, heavily scooped mids, didn't cut at all. What should get the blame?
Turned out his tone was completely his fault. He had his amp set with a deep smiley face EQ along with bass and treble boost voicing switches. He had the highs boosted on his bass too.
Now I know many who'd leave that gig thinking Ampeg sucks or Epifani sucks or his basses suck. He thought the same thing until I set his amp and bass flat and cranked it up.
I have yet to have my 1012 fart out... but I also don't do dumb stuff that should cause farting in the first place like boost the lows on my bass 12dB AND the bass control on my amp the same. But I see people do that and blame their gear.
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"Better" is something people seem to toss around as if it should mean the same for anyone... despite the fact that it's a misguided premise at best. Or wishful thinking.
The "required data" wouldn't change what I heard, be it a fear cab or anything else.
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Nothing that involves naugahyde amps blowing up on stage is off topic.
Please Continue.
Brad:. Two years later my Tank 1212 still rocks!
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Yeah... but can you prove it?
I can only prove it when I'm on top of my "A" Game bass playing. Unfortunately that's a rarity.
Here are a couple of gig pics. The first one is fuzzy but still a favorite... it lead a TBer to ask me why I would use this instead of an SVT, which I thought was a pretty funny question. The answer was that even on a big stage I preferred the little 1012 over what the SVT did. And apparently that baffles people who I guess can't understand someone not preferring what they prefer. It didn't baffle the guitarist with the 412 or the drummer with that little kit. I think the room held 1500+. Drove the cab with a Bugera Veyron Mosfet.
This was last week with my Quilter Bass Block 800. Pardon the cheap basses.
I guess the thing I'll never understand is this Highlander mentality where there can only be one. For what I use to be good or even great, other things need to be bad. Sorry but if someone could explain how that's not just plain dumb I'm all ears.
Boom bad indeed.
. I think the room held 1500+. Drove the cab with a Bugera Veyron Mosfet.This was last week with my Quilter Bass Block 800. Pardon the cheap basses.
I guess the thing I'll never understand is this Highlander mentality where there can only be one. For what I use to be good or even great, other things need to be bad. Sorry but if someone could explain how that's not just plain dumb I'm all ears.
Boom bad indeed.
Hey Brad!
Welcome to Talkbass!!!!! BTW---Brad and Drew are really nice guys and are sicere about their products. I have to reluctantly admit experiencing a little shadenfreude in reading this thread! I'm pretty used to this stuff. I've been told by the "experts" here how and why my cabs don't work. By guys who have never heard one. Fortunately Bass Gear magazine and a bunch of European publications don't agree. All I can say is---don't get drawn into an argument with them. Many are shills for other manufacturers.
Welcome to Talkbass!!!!! BTW---Brad and Drew are really nice guys and are sicere about their products. I have to reluctantly admit experiencing a little shadenfreude in reading this thread! I'm pretty used to this stuff. I've been told by the "experts" here how and why my cabs don't work. By guys who have never heard one. Fortunately Bass Gear magazine and a bunch of European publications don't agree. All I can say is---don't get drawn into an argument with them. Many are shills for other manufacturers.
Here are a couple of gig pics. The first one is fuzzy but still a favorite... it lead a TBer to ask me why I would use this instead of an SVT, which I thought was a pretty funny question. The answer was that even on a big stage I preferred the little 1012 over what the SVT did. And apparently that baffles people who I guess can't understand someone not preferring what they prefer. It didn't baffle the guitarist with the 412 or the drummer with that little kit
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This was last week with my Quilter Bass Block 800. Pardon the cheap basses.
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I guess the thing I'll never understand is this Highlander mentality where there can only be one. For what I use to be good or even great, other things need to be bad. Sorry but if someone could explain how that's not just plain dumb I'm all ears.
Boom bad indeed.
Very Nice!
Yes! Little wump but loud and crystal clear. Thanks! Was originally going to make it a la Fender tweed, but this made more sense and well matches all my amps!!!
F212 moves huge air!!
Too late, Mike... I've been on TB for around twenty years now. This is nothing new.
That's all great, but, some of us have used one. Comparatively, the tank did not have the full range, authoritative tone that some of the others did. Rather it was very middy, small sounding and just sounded like it was working hard while the others were coasting along. This was not a subtle nuance. It was the general consensus to everyone at the gtg. I loved the AK 1203 Hathor's that were there. Would have no problem owning those.
I've used a tank onstage as well, and while I had no problem being heard, the same characteristics were present. There was no noticeable difference in dispersion between the tank and any other more conventionally designed speakers. I'm not saying the tank is a total turd, but I think some other speakers, which happen to be the cream of the crop, sounded better. It's tough competition.
Why Brad feels the need to discount and "disprove" people's opinions, based on use and direct comparison, is beyond me. Well, not really. I have no loyalty or agenda.
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