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It Was 50 Years Ago Today...

As far as the dexterous side of playing goes I reached a plateau some time in my twenties but we can always try to improve in tastefulness can't we? Please say yes.

YES! :thumbsup: I'm not the most proficient player so I strive for tasteful dynamics. A few years ago a pro drummer told me I make good decisions. That made me feel really good :)

Congrats Grant!

Fifty years used to sound like such a long time but it passes quickly. I'm somewhere around the forty year mark myself.

Here's to fifty more! :thumbsup:

Thanks Charles. So true about time. At the front end of things forty or fifty years just seems unimaginably long. At the back end it went by in a flash. :woot:

Yeah but can he remember what he had for dinner last night? :laugh:

Happy 67th, Whenever it is/was.

Thanks! Yep, 67. Comin' up on 70 like a runaway train.

Dinner last night? Sure. It was... um... let's see... oh crap, Ill have to get back to you on that one :rolleyes:

I am at my 50th as a bassist, too! Played lead guitar from age 13-16, then at age 16 I got an audition for a 9 piece soul band. Bought a EB-3 and a Kustom 200 with a 215 cab and landed the job. The rest is history, duh? Still gig at least 3-4 times a month. Definitely keeps me going!

Many of the cats I played with in my 20 hung it up years ago. But there are lots us old farts still out rockin' it. I play every weekend and gig once or twice a month myself. It's what keeps me going too. :cool:

Well I should be 72 but I was sick for a year <Ba Boom> Old Henny Youngman joke.

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Your post made me realize it's been 40 years for me. Instead of buying a car with the first real money I had earned, I bought a brand new black Fender MusicMaster Bass & matching tube amp in 1977.

Nice! You had your priorities right :thumbsup:

It was nice to finally have my own gear so I could play with my buddies.

I'm still playing today with those same buddies. :)

Very cool. I've been playing with my rhythm guitarist/drummer for 23 years.

...behave yourself, Grant!

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Yeah, but in married years, I'm just a youngster, I've only been married for 19 yrs.... I'll never catch up with Grant ;)

Yep, I got you in married years. Twice that for me. ;)

Great thread and congrats!

Thanks! :)

One of Duke's great quotes was when he was asked in an interview when he was going to retire, he replied, "Retire? To what?"

Ah yes, the Duke! I love that quote. (BTW, I lived fairly close to him in Newport Beach in the late 60s. He would do his own grocery shopping at the neighborhood market. A really cool, down to earth guy.) :cool:

I'm about three years behind you, BTW.

Cool. The more old players the better :bassist:

Perhaps, you could add some posts with memorable gig moments and interesting gear changes etc?

Not a bad idea. I'll come up with some. Anybody else feel free to share your stories :)
 
I am at my 50th as a bassist, too! Played lead guitar from age 13-16, then at age 16 I got an audition for a 9 piece soul band. Bought a EB-3 and a Kustom 200 with a 215 cab and landed the job. The rest is history, duh? Still gig at least 3-4 times a month. Definitely keeps me going!
I had twin 2x15 Kustom cabs with that head in the 70's .. Looked like a large pit group in my basement with that shiny padding on the cabs... Could never move that around these days. ;)
 
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I had twin 2x15 Kustom cabs with that head in the 70's .. Looked like a large pit group in my basement with that shiny padding on the cabs... Could never move that around these days. ;)
Actually, dbase, those cabinets were real plywood. The CTS speakers in them (I think) weren't too good and the ports certainly were not engineered to fit the drivers. They are fetching good prices these days. I'd like to buy one and put some nice Eminence speakers in them and port them right. If I saw a good deal............And you had 2 cabs? Your rig would have qualified as a real beast back then.
 
My fiftieth is coming up in four years. It's hard to believe, but I was in a band prior to actually owning a bass (vocalist and promised bassist to be), and have never been out of a band since my first day. I can't figure out if that's a good thing or not.....

I took a few years off in my early 30s to do the babies/young kids thing but outside of that I've always had a project going on. And to set your mind at ease, a half century playing in bands is a good thing :)

Happy Golden Anniversary!!
Keep on keeping on, it's a journey not a destination!

Thanks! Loving the journey now more than ever. It just keeps getting better :thumbsup:
 
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I'm putting this on the Humor and Gig Stories section even though it's humorous only because you would think I'd be better by now. :laugh:

And it's not a gig story except if it hadn't happened I wouldn't have gig stories to share. :woot:

So what momentous, life changing event happened 50 years ago today? :wideyed:

I got my first bass! :) A cheap hollow body from Sears that was a Guild Starfire knockoff. :D

It took three years for that oh-so-excited 17 year old kid to work up the nerve to play with other people. I'm sure he would be happy and probably amazed that a half a century later he would still be playing. :cool:

So that's basically 3/4 of my life with a bass in my hands. Wow. Yeah, I really should be better by now. ;)

I got my first bass about 50 years ago too when i was 14-15, it was something like a Teisco or a Kent something or other, sunburst single pickup, long scale with no name on it, it didn't sound too bad and kept me playing until I got my first Fender Precision in 1971. I started out on guitar and trumpet but loved the sound of the bass, I got hooked the first time I heard The Beatles and that "humming" guitar, the only way I'll ever stop is if I can't hold a bass anymore.
 
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It took three years for that oh-so-excited 17 year old kid to work up the nerve to play with other people.

I started a band 30 seconds after I bought a bass. I should have waited three years, because I was terrible. Luckily at that age, being terrible was trumped by the feeling of being in a band!
 
I'm putting this on the Humor and Gig Stories section even though it's humorous only because you would think I'd be better by now. :laugh:

And it's not a gig story except if it hadn't happened I wouldn't have gig stories to share. :woot:

So what momentous, life changing event happened 50 years ago today? :wideyed:

I got my first bass! :) A cheap hollow body from Sears that was a Guild Starfire knockoff. :D

It took three years for that oh-so-excited 17 year old kid to work up the nerve to play with other people. I'm sure he would be happy and probably amazed that a half a century later he would still be playing. :cool:

So that's basically 3/4 of my life with a bass in my hands. Wow. Yeah, I really should be better by now. ;)
Not with a bass, but my musical education also started about 50 years ago, in September. That's when I started playing trumpet in grade school. Started to learn how to read notation, play with others in a band, experience the joy of making music on my own....and yeah, I agree, I should be much better at this whole "music' thing by now too. :thumbsup:
 
It was 50 years ago today when the Beatles released "Hey Jude". August 1968. Later that year I found myself on an extended vacation to sunny southeast Asia compliments of my uncle Sam. In a small village called Di An near an army base camp by the same name was an old french hotel that had been taken over by the USO. That place was the best. You could get a cheeseburger with fries. There was also a stage. I remember stopping in there one day on my way to or from some sh*thole and this band was playing. They weren't bad,all Vietnamese military people. They had a lead singer named "Evis Phoung and he was singing "Hey Jude". My eyes began to tear up and I felt like such a p*ssy. Thankfully, Elvis is still with us. He survived and has done well for himself. (google). Anyway, that's my story....
 
Hi Grant,

I'm putting this on the Humor and Gig Stories section even though it's humorous only because you would think I'd be better by now. :laugh:

And it's not a gig story except if it hadn't happened I wouldn't have gig stories to share. :woot:

So what momentous, life changing event happened 50 years ago today? :wideyed:

I got my first bass! :) A cheap hollow body from Sears that was a Guild Starfire knockoff. :D

It took three years for that oh-so-excited 17 year old kid to work up the nerve to play with other people. I'm sure he would be happy and probably amazed that a half a century later he would still be playing. :cool:

So that's basically 3/4 of my life with a bass in my hands. Wow. Yeah, I really should be better by now. ;)

Congrats and thanks for sharing. Thanks to all of you for taking us down memory lane. I, too, thought it would take longer to get old. But we're still thumping. Yay! :)

I'm right behind you, Grant. What I lack in talent I make up for in fun. I don't remember the exact date or the exact cheap knock-off, but I started playing guitar and bass in my parents' garage in '69 or so. It's been an enjoyable journey, hasn't it? See you soon.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
It was 50 years ago today when the Beatles released "Hey Jude". August 1968. Later that year I found myself on an extended vacation to sunny southeast Asia compliments of my uncle Sam. In a small village called Di An near an army base camp by the same name was an old french hotel that had been taken over by the USO. That place was the best. You could get a cheeseburger with fries. There was also a stage. I remember stopping in there one day on my way to or from some sh*thole and this band was playing. They weren't bad,all Vietnamese military people. They had a lead singer named "Evis Phoung and he was singing "Hey Jude". My eyes began to tear up and I felt like such a p*ssy. Thankfully, Elvis is still with us. He survived and has done well for himself. (google). Anyway, that's my story....

Thanks for posting the Hey Jude info!

One of my Fab 8 bandmates just sent this to me regarding Hey Jude. It's a fascinating read from Rolling Stone I just had to share...

‘Hey Jude’ at 50: Celebrating the Beatles’ Most Open-Hearted Masterpiece
The band’s biggest hit was a tribute to everything the members loved and respected about each other
Rob Sheffield August 26, 2018 9:00AM ET
“Hey Jude” sums up the Beatles’ turbulent summer of 1968 — a tribute to their friendship, right at the moment it was starting to fracture. The single was a smash as soon as they released it on August 26th, 50 years ago — their biggest hit, topping the U.S. charts for nine weeks. It’s the Beatles at their warmest, friendliest, most open-hearted. John, Paul, George and Ringo sound utterly in sync, building to that power-drone “na na na na” chant. Yet it’s a song born from conflict. Nobody knew they were falling apart — in fact, “Hey Jude” was released four days after Ringo officially quit the band, walking out on the White Album sessions. Paul wrote it during John’s divorce, to cheer up his mate’s five-year-old son. As Julian Lennon recalled, “He was just trying to console me and Mum.” The world has been taking consolation from “Hey Jude” ever since.

It’s one of very few Beatle songs about a conversation between men — and like “She Loves You,” it’s a conversation where one friend is urging the other to do right by a woman. (Neither Paul nor John really cared what men had to say about anything — that was one of their deepest spiritual connections.) George Martin fretted the radio wouldn’t play a seven-minute single. John’s reply: “They will if it’s us.” A classic statement of fabulously bitchy Beatle arrogance — yet the word “us” really jumps out of that line. “Hey Jude” is the sound of the lads working hard to capture that feeling of “us,” after it stopped coming easy.

Back in May, John and Paul made a surprise appearance on The Tonight Show, during a brief NYC jaunt. The interview was a fiasco — guest host Joe Garagiola had barely any idea who they were. But there’s a revealing moment, about four minutes into a truly painful chat. Garagiola asks, “The four of you, socially, are you that close?” Paul and John say “yeah” simultaneously — Paul says it twice, while John adds, “We’re good friends, you know.” They’re totally blasé about it — just giving basic background info to this clueless American rube, as if they’re telling him where Liverpool is or how many films they’ve made. To them, it’s obvious. Nothing to get hung about.

But just a couple of weeks later, John had blown up his marriage, his family, every detail of his life. They would never have a simple answer to that question again.

That’s where “Hey Jude” comes from. It’s a moment of fellowship the Beatles had to earn, after a decade when that bond had been the most reliable constant in their lives. Right up to the spring of 1968, John, Paul, George and Ringo were four mates who wanted to spend as much time together as possible, even when they weren’t working. (They’d just gone to India on retreat with the Maharishi.) John was the one who depended most on the other three emotionally. He rarely spoke to anyone outside the band. As he said in 1967, “We understand each other. It doesn’t matter about the rest.” But right after that New York visit, John made a few drastic changes — like walking out on his wife and child, the morning after his first night with Yoko Ono. (Cynthia came into the kitchen and found the two of them eating breakfast. Good morning, good morning.) The others no longer saw him without Yoko around, not even in the studio. His drug intake escalated. This bird had flown.

Like everyone else, Paul was blindsided by the sudden changes in John, and “Hey Jude” was his direct response. He composed it in his head while driving his Aston Martin out to visit Cynthia and Julian, at the Weybridge house where he used to join his partner for afternoon writing sessions. He brought Cynthia a red rose. Nobody else from the Beatles camp was speaking to her. But as Paul reasoned, “We’d been very good friends for millions of years and I thought it was a bit much for them suddenly to be personae non gratae and out of my life.” He also arrived with a tune to sing for Julian, who was only five. That’s just one of the countless weird things about this song — it’s impossible to imagine any other Sixties rock star choosing to spend his day off this way, checking in on his bandmate’s abandoned wife and kid. But that’s just more proof there’s only onePaul McCartney.

Paul was used to dreaming up songs on the road to Weybridge (“Eight Days a Week” for one, “Drive My Car” and “Paperback Writer” as well), but this occasion was different. As he recalled in his 1997 bio Many Years From Now, “I started with the idea ‘Hey Jules,’ which was Julian, don’t make it bad, take a sad song and make it better. Here, try and deal with this terrible thing. I knew it was not going to be easy for him. I always feel sorry for kids in divorces.” He knew the pain of losing a parent as a little boy. “He’d been like an uncle to him,” John recalled years later. “Paul was always good with kids.”

Back in London, at the piano in his Cavendish Avenue bachelor pad, he played it for John and Yoko. When he got to the line “The movement you need is on your shoulder,” he told them, “I’ll change that, it’s a bit crummy.” John replied, “That’s the best line in it!” John heard this new tune as Paul cheering him on in his romance with Yoko. “I took it very personally,” John told Rolling Stone in 1968. “‘Ah, it’s me,’ I said. ‘It’s me.’ He says, ‘No, it’s me.’ I said, ‘Check. We’re going through the same bit.’ So we all are.”

Through the years, in all his sniping about Paul, John never hid his admiration for “Hey Jude.” “I always heard it as a song to me,” he told Playboy’s David Sheff in 1980, shortly before his death. “The words ‘go out and get her’ — subconsciously he was saying, ‘Go ahead, leave me.’ On a conscious level, he didn’t want me to go ahead. The angel in him was saying, ‘Bless you.’ The devil in him didn’t like it at all because he didn’t want to lose his partner.” Paul was going through his own turmoil, splitting with fiancée Jane Asher. He couldn’t stop thinking about this woman he’d met during that NYC visit in May — an American photographer named Linda Eastman. In September, he called and invited her to London. They remained inseparable for the next 30 years, until she died of cancer in 1998. He and John had both found their “someone to perform with” — female artists they not only married but collaborated with musically.

“Hey Jude” wasn’t easy to record — the first time they tried it, Paul and George had a furious argument over the guitar part. When they cut the final track on July 31st, Paul started without glancing back to notice that nobody was at the drum kit. Ringo was in the bathroom. “‘Hey Jude’ goes on for hours before the drums come in and while I was doing it I suddenly felt Ringo tiptoeing past my back rather quickly, trying to get to his drums. And just as he got to his drums, boom boom boom, his timing was absolutely impeccable.” (Ringo enters at the 50-second point.) Paul took the mishap as a good omen. “When those things happen, you have a little laugh and a light bulb goes off in your head and you think, ‘This is the take!’ And you put a little more into it.”

Paul was right — that was the take, the version you hear on the finished record. The Beatles’ biggest hit is the one they started playing while Ringo was in the can.

There’s something else you hear in “Hey Jude,” if you listen close — as the final verse kicks off, at the line “The minute you let her under your skin,” Paul misses a cue and mutters, “Whoa, ******* hell!” They did their best to hide it, mixing it as low as they could, but you can hear it at the 2:58 point — yet it just comes across as excited Beatle banter, the boys calling to each other in the heat of making music. Paul is playing the most hallowed piano in rock & roll history — the Bechstein at London’s Trident Studios. You’ve heard this same piano on countless songs — it’s the one Freddy Mercury plays in “Bohemian Rhapsody,” the one Elton John plays in “Levon,” the one Rick Wakeman plays in David Bowie’s “Life on Mars?” But Paul gets his own sound out of it here.


They made a video on September 4th, the famous clip where the audience gathers around the piano to sing along. It was a reunion of sorts: the return of Ringo. After he quit on August 22nd, he escaped to the Mediterranean, hiding out with his family on Peter Sellers’ yacht, until the boys tracked him down and bombarded him with telegrams saying “You’re the best drummer in the world.” He rejoined in time for the video shoot; the next day, he went back to work on the White Album at Abbey Road.

If you’re looking to make the case that Ringo really was “the best drummer in the world,” you couldn’t top “Hey Jude” as your Exhibit A. His fills are the heartbeat of the song, thumping in communion with the vocalist like he does in “A Day in the Life,” “God” or “Long, Long, Long.” As he once said, “I only have one rule and that is always play with the singer.” Paul, John and George did their most eloquent thinking-out-loud with Ringo providing the pulse. “Hey Jude” wouldn’t groove without him, a major reason why cover versions seem limp. The big exception is Wilson Pickett’s rendition, with Duane Allman on guitar — Muscle Shoals rhythm master Roger Hawkins anchors it, proving “Hey Jude” is a drummer’s song as much as a singer’s.

Cynthia and Julian thought “Hey Jude” was for them. John heard it as the ballad of John and Yoko. But neither side was wrong — countless people around the world have heard this homily speaking to them. “The movement you need is on your shoulder” — John was so right about that line, and as Paul says, he thinks of John every time he sings that part. “Hey Jude” is a tribute to everything the Beatles loved and respected most about each other. Even George, who plays the most low-profile role in this song, tipped his cap with the na-na-na-na finale of “Isn’t That a Pity,” which you can hear as a viciously cheeky parody, an affectionate tribute or (most likely) both. The pain in “Hey Jude” resonated in 1968, in a world reeling from wars, riots and assassinations. And it’s why it sounds timely in the summer of 2018, as our world keeps getting colder. After 50 years, “Hey Jude” remains a source of sustenance in difficult times — a moment when four longtime comrades, clear-eyed adults by now, take a look around at everything that’s broken around them. Yet they still join together to take a sad song and make it better.