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I've never been so mad or hurt...

Papa Dangerous said:
I know exactly how you feel. I am constantly thinking of how she is living her life, and doing the things we used to, but with someone else. That I will never get to be the one that lays next to her, wraps my arm around her without millimeter of space between us. I used to wake up in the middle of the night, look at her sleeping, smile, kiss her shoulder and fall back into the deepest of sleeps until she woke me up in the morning for work. I used to sleep so well and would never want to get up.. I would just grab her back into bed for a few more minutes... Now, I wake up several times during the night, and when I eventually get up in the morning, its sometimes more an hour earlier because I just can't sleep anymore. My REM sleep has been replaced by like stage 3 or 4 sleep in which all I do is think about her.

They say time heals, and from all these experiences a person learns a life long lesson. The only time I seem to be getting from this is that I should never open myself up to a person like that because I cannot imagine having to go through this all over again. Puh... I was almost distracted and doing better and here I go ranting and raving about the things I should not be thinking. :confused:

That describes my feelings, to the t.
 
My drive to work passes both her school and her house, and is the same path she takes to go between the two. I also live about 3 minutes away from where she spends about 60% of her off campus time. Ive never had the feelings I have now - I spend my entire drive looking at every white suv to see if its her. I'm paralyzingly afraid of ever actually seeing her, living the life we both wanted to live, of getting ****ed up and partying, but without me.

Sounds like you need a new route to take. Change is a good thing in times like these. Embrace it. Don't think about what you two could of had together. Go out and do something different, fun, and completely awesome with someone new. Live a life that would make her jealous. Then you can look back one day and say, "Look at what she missed out on. Her loss!"
 
jmattbassplaya said:
Sounds like you need a new route to take. Change is a good thing in times like these. Embrace it. Don't think about what you two could of had together. Go out and do something different, fun, and completely awesome with someone new. Live a life that would make her jealous. Then you can look back one day and say, "Look at what she missed out on. Her loss!"

I 100% agree, except its the only route that doesn't have a dollar of tolls one way.
 
Damn guys. You need a stern kick in your butts right now! It's important to keep yourself open and honest both with yourself and others. That's how you build new relationships with people. No one likes a guy who sulks in the corner by himself and is all 'woe is me'. Get out there, act like you got the biggest **** in town, and live life to the fullest. Things seem bad now, but they'll only continue to be bad if you allow them.

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Gentlemen. Quit your friggin' moping. There are a million chicks out there that WAY hotter, way more accommodating, and way better in the sack. I've had side action that's lasted longer than your relationships. Tap it all. Fatty looks wonky at you, tap it (she'll appreciate it too), that sexy chick that hangs out in a different crowd, tap it, the sexy Asian chick and all her sexy Asian friends, tap it, the sexy Latina chicks, tap it, the nerdy chick, tap it, the chicks that you know will plump up, tap it now (then you'll have a lifelong tapper). Tap the slutty mom, the bored chick at work, the cashier at the grocery store, the library, the DMV, the traffic school, the receptionist at all the local businesses. Tap them all. You're not marrying these chicks. Neither are they into marrying you. Frankly your both starting to sound pathetic. Buck the f up. Stop looking for the right chick and start looking for all the wrong ones. Don't get sucked into the chick drama and stupid romantic comedy crap. There's no music or soundtrack to this stuff. It simple. It's a numbers game. Wear a jimmy and dive into the ocean of quantity. You are both beginning disappoint, sons.
 
Gentlemen. Quit your friggin' moping. There are a million chicks out there that WAY hotter, way more accommodating, and way better in the sack. I've had side action that's lasted longer than your relationships. Tap it all. Fatty looks wonky at you, tap it (she'll appreciate it too), that sexy chick that hangs out in a different crowd, tap it, the sexy Asian chick and all her sexy Asian friends, tap it, the sexy Latina chicks, tap it, the nerdy chick, tap it, the chicks that you know will plump up, tap it now (then you'll have a lifelong tapper). Tap the slutty mom, the bored chick at work, the cashier at the grocery store, the library, the DMV, the traffic school, the receptionist at all the local businesses. Tap them all. You're not marrying these chicks. Neither are they into marrying you. Frankly your both starting to sound pathetic. Buck the f up. Stop looking for the right chick and start looking for all the wrong ones. Don't get sucked into the chick drama and stupid romantic comedy crap. There's no music or soundtrack to this stuff. It simple. It's a numbers game. Wear a jimmy and dive into the ocean of quantity. You are both beginning disappoint, sons.

Well, when you put it like that...
 
MakiSupaStar said:
Gentlemen. Quit your friggin' moping. There are a million chicks out there that WAY hotter, way more accommodating, and way better in the sack. I've had side action that's lasted longer than your relationships. Tap it all. Fatty looks wonky at you, tap it (she'll appreciate it too), that sexy chick that hangs out in a different crowd, tap it, the sexy Asian chick and all her sexy Asian friends, tap it, the sexy Latina chicks, tap it, the nerdy chick, tap it, the chicks that you know will plump up, tap it now (then you'll have a lifelong tapper). Tap the slutty mom, the bored chick at work, the cashier at the grocery store, the library, the DMV, the traffic school, the receptionist at all the local businesses. Tap them all. You're not marrying these chicks. Neither are they into marrying you. Frankly your both starting to sound pathetic. Buck the f up. Stop looking for the right chick and start looking for all the wrong ones. Don't get sucked into the chick drama and stupid romantic comedy crap. There's no music or soundtrack to this stuff. It simple. It's a numbers game. Wear a jimmy and dive into the ocean of quantity. You are both beginning disappoint, sons.

I would love to be able to **** every girl that moves. Oh wise Maki, how does a socially anxious 20 year old get someone to just have sex with them? I highly doubt "hey, wanna ****?" Will work. Unless you say otherwise.

I think I need to start a new thread, "the please give Nate advice thread"...
 
Agreed. Revenge is not worth it really... Although I still think about beating this guy down with a lead pipe... but I wont..

Okay... I take it back.. sometimes revenge can be fun, especially when your ex leaves her facebook account logged into YOUR ipod touch. Hey... its my device... I will do whatever I want... like change password and proceed to tell everyone that she is a lying cheater... Is that karma? Am I the deliverer or karma? I can roll with that.
 
NateS said:
I would love to be able to **** every girl that moves. Oh wise Maki, how does a socially anxious 20 year old get someone to just have sex with them? I highly doubt "hey, wanna ****?" Will work. Unless you say otherwise.

I think I need to start a new thread, "the please give Nate advice thread"...

Get them to laugh. Just talk to them and tell them stories. Work a lot of them at the same time. Chicks love to laugh. But always drop obvious compliments and blunt references to having sex with them, as if your joking but your not. Always quietly offer to take them home, or always invite them over to your place for a drink (or whatever) after a party (don't publically put them on the spot though) or whatever. This seemed to work pretty well for me, but that's no guarantee that it will work for you. You need to go out and get blatantly shut down and laugh about it before you eventually refine your own game. Be confident and move onto the next chick. Like I said, it's a numbers game, and sometimes your on and sometimes your not. Lower your expectations and you'll increase your odds.
 
Get them to laugh. Just talk to them and tell them stories. Work a lot of them at the same time. Chicks love to laugh. But always drop obvious compliments and blunt references to having sex with them, as if your joking but your not. Always quietly offer to take them home, or always invite them over to your place for a drink (or whatever) after a party (don't publically put them on the spot though) or whatever. This seemed to work pretty well for me, but that's no guarantee that it will work for you. You need to go out and get blatantly shut down and laugh about it before you eventually refine your own game. Be confident and move onto the next chick. Like I said, it's a numbers game, and sometimes your on and sometimes your not. Lower your expectations and you'll increase your odds.

Ask a ye shall receive.

+100 on getting them to laugh. If you can get a girl to laugh within the first 20 seconds of meeting her she will always remember you as someone she likes. That doesn't mean you'll get to sleep with her, but you'll be in a great position to make a move later on... or will end up being introduced to all her hot friends who you can try to tap as well.

Be engaging with them. Ask them to go out and do stuff with you. It doesn't have to be a date - in fact, it's better if it's not. Be easy going, fun, energetic, and looking to always have a good time. Give her attention, talk to her, and lay down some compliments, but don't over do it and be creepy. Just make sure you make her laugh while you're doing it. At the same time, talk to other girls, hang out with your boys, and have a life of your own. Get her interested in wanting to spend time with you and soon she'll be wrapped around your finger.
 
Papa Dangerous said:
Okay... I take it back.. sometimes revenge can be fun, especially when your ex leaves her facebook account logged into YOUR ipod touch. Hey... its my device... I will do whatever I want... like change password and proceed to tell everyone that she is a lying cheater... Is that karma? Am I the deliverer or karma? I can roll with that.

This will not bode well on you. It will only make you look like a bitter psycho. Be the bigger person and remove her account. Best thing you can do is completely remove all attention from her. Be a ghost and disappear. Delete her as a friend too. Trust me. Attention is a chick's crack. Even if she has moved on and doesn't like you anymore, this will get to her.

A chick hates to have a man remove his attention from her. It will bug her even more if you start tapping her friends (trust me one of them secretly wanted you), or even if she sees you hanging out with other chicks. I had a chick stop calling me once, so I shrugged my shoulders and moved on. About a couple weeks later I was hanging out in our food court with some chick friends who I haven't tapped yet (I eventually tapped three of them) I knew them through swimming, mutual friends, classes etc. One of them was half jokingly sitting on my lap because we didn't have any seats. This chick sees me and comes up from behind me, and apparently I didn't hear her say hi. I guess one of the other chicks saw her, but she didn't know her so didn't say anything. Suddenly, out of the blue this chick flips out and screams 'I hate you! You're such an a hole' and storms off. I had no idea she was there until then. Since I had another chick on my lap, I didn't make any effort to pursue her. About a year later I ran into her at a Pixies show. I knocked the bottom out of her for about a month and then she stopped taking to me when she found out that I innocently tapped two of her roommates, while waiting for her to come home from school.
 
MakiSupaStar said:
This will not bode well on you. It will only make you look like a bitter psycho. Be the bigger person and remove her account. Best thing you can do is completely remove all attention from her. Be a ghost and disappear. Delete her as a friend too. Trust me. Attention is a chick's crack. Even if she has moved on and doesn't like you anymore, this will get to her.

A chick hates to have a man remove his attention from her. It will bug her even more if you start tapping her friends (trust me one of them secretly wanted you), or even if she sees you hanging out with other chicks. I had a chick stop calling me once, so I shrugged my shoulders and moved on. About a couple weeks later I was hanging out in our food court with some chick friends who I haven't tapped yet (I eventually tapped three of them) I knew them through swimming, mutual friends, classes etc. One of them was half jokingly sitting on my lap because we didn't have any seats. This chick sees me and comes up from behind me, and apparently I didn't hear her say hi. I guess one of the other chicks saw her, but she didn't know her so didn't say anything. Suddenly, out of the blue this chick flips out and screams 'I hate you! You're such an a hole' and storms off. I had no idea she was there until then. Since I had another chick on my lap, I didn't make any effort to pursue her. About a year later I ran into her at a Pixies show. I knocked the bottom out of her for about a month and then she stopped taking to me when she found out that I innocently tapped two of her roommates, while waiting for her to come home from school.

Pure greatness :D

I've decided to just say **** both of them. Mary's just a slut for all I care, and Evan can pound sand, at least for a while. On October 7th skrillex is coming to Richmond and I know we're all gonna be there, so whatever happens happens, but I'm definately just gonna ignore Mary until she makes a move. Plus everyone's gonna be dancing, so I'm holistic gonna get next to every hot chick I can. I figure if Mary and I ever get back on speaking terms ill get to rail her again eventually anyway, and why should I wait? Maki's right, there are plenty of chicks to bang. I'm just gonna live my life for me. We've hung out twice since the initial breakup, and both times ended up shaking bedposts. So why fret it?

Living life, one personal revelation at a time :)
 
This will not bode well on you. It will only make you look like a bitter psycho. Be the bigger person and remove her account. Best thing you can do is completely remove all attention from her. Be a ghost and disappear. Delete her as a friend too. Trust me. Attention is a chick's crack. Even if she has moved on and doesn't like you anymore, this will get to her.

A chick hates to have a man remove his attention from her. It will bug her even more if you start tapping her friends (trust me one of them secretly wanted you), or even if she sees you hanging out with other chicks. I had a chick stop calling me once, so I shrugged my shoulders and moved on. About a couple weeks later I was hanging out in our food court with some chick friends who I haven't tapped yet (I eventually tapped three of them) I knew them through swimming, mutual friends, classes etc. One of them was half jokingly sitting on my lap because we didn't have any seats. This chick sees me and comes up from behind me, and apparently I didn't hear her say hi. I guess one of the other chicks saw her, but she didn't know her so didn't say anything. Suddenly, out of the blue this chick flips out and screams 'I hate you! You're such an a hole' and storms off. I had no idea she was there until then. Since I had another chick on my lap, I didn't make any effort to pursue her. About a year later I ran into her at a Pixies show. I knocked the bottom out of her for about a month and then she stopped taking to me when she found out that I innocently tapped two of her roommates, while waiting for her to come home from school.


It was a one time deal. Something I needed to get out of my system. I will give all of my world to someone, but once you **** that up, I need realign everything in such a way where I feel like if I get screwed over for something, I might as well do something screwed up.

If I am punished for not committing a crime, than I will seek some type of justification. I mean hell, its not even like I was being that much of a butt.. I was just telling everyone the truth...
 
It was a one time deal. Something I needed to get out of my system. I will give all of my world to someone, but once you **** that up, I need realign everything in such a way where I feel like if I get screwed over for something, I might as well do something screwed up.

If I am punished for not committing a crime, than I will seek some type of justification. I mean hell, its not even like I was being that much of a butt.. I was just telling everyone the truth...

You're too young to be 'giving your all' to someone. You're young - be greedy for a while! Take what you want to take, do what you want to do, and think about yourself for a while. When you have kids you won't have the opportunity to do what you're able to do right now, so live it up!
 
You're too young to be 'giving your all' to someone. You're young - be greedy for a while! Take what you want to take, do what you want to do, and think about yourself for a while. When you have kids you won't have the opportunity to do what you're able to do right now, so live it up!


I never really heard anyone tell me this before. I have always been such a person to just give everything I have, and just expect the same in return. I was raised mostly by females, and grew up with a very deep respect for them, so using them was never my thing. Perhaps I will go to work wearing a jimmy, and the first chick that looks interested in buying a Nord Piano can get a discount out back xD
 
You're too young to be 'giving your all' to someone. You're young - be greedy for a while! Take what you want to take, do what you want to do, and think about yourself for a while. When you have kids you won't have the opportunity to do what you're able to do right now, so live it up!

^^^^ THIS

If you "give it your all" now, when the kids grow up you won't be "as good as I ever once was" you'll be "as good once as I ever was." It's not as easy when you're older as it is in your 20's (or even your 30's).
 
I never really heard anyone tell me this before. I have always been such a person to just give everything I have, and just expect the same in return. I was raised mostly by females, and grew up with a very deep respect for them, so using them was never my thing. Perhaps I will go to work wearing a jimmy, and the first chick that looks interested in buying a Nord Piano can get a discount out back xD

I grew up only having a mom so I can definitely relate to being much more sympathetic and kind towards people than most other males. Unfortunately, that has gotten me screwed over a lot. I'm not saying you should turn into a buttmunch or not be a nice person, but what I am trying to tell you is that you can be a kind, caring, and compassionate person and still get yours.
 
Pure greatness :D

I've decided to just say **** both of them. Mary's just a slut for all I care, and Evan can pound sand, at least for a while. On October 7th skrillex is coming to Richmond and I know we're all gonna be there, so whatever happens happens, but I'm definately just gonna ignore Mary until she makes a move. Plus everyone's gonna be dancing, so I'm holistic gonna get next to every hot chick I can. I figure if Mary and I ever get back on speaking terms ill get to rail her again eventually anyway, and why should I wait? Maki's right, there are plenty of chicks to bang. I'm just gonna live my life for me. We've hung out twice since the initial breakup, and both times ended up shaking bedposts. So why fret it?

Living life, one personal revelation at a time :)

You're getting close, but I still don't think you 100% get it. You need to remove yourself from Mary completely. Don't start thinking about you two possibly rekindling any sort or romance or friendship in the future. She screwed you over so don't give her the satisfaction of being your friend ever again. You can still tap her if she decides to come around, but that's all it should ever be. No more.
 
Papa Dangerous said:
I never really heard anyone tell me this before. I have always been such a person to just give everything I have, and just expect the same in return. I was raised mostly by females, and grew up with a very deep respect for them, so using them was never my thing. Perhaps I will go to work wearing a jimmy, and the first chick that looks interested in buying a Nord Piano can get a discount out back xD

It's creepy how similar we are. I've always had an almost reverence for the female body.