nonsqtr said:
Yeah, nice pics NJL.
Just out of curiosity, how long do you intend to keep your pup in a cage?
Do you have the space to let your Rottie run around, or are you going to take it out for walks, or how is that going to work?
(The reason I'm asking, is because we're thinking of getting a pup here shortly, and my main concern is a) letting the dog do its thing, and b) the alternative is to get up at six every morning and take the dog out for a walk - which "might" contribute to loyalty, but also would probably screw up my back even more than it is now).
Good question...
We crate him when we are not home and during our sleep time (also, that's the only place he'll eat his food). We have taken this method due to The Jaco being an indoor Rott. At 16 months, he still doesn't have the mental maturity (not until around 3 years old - Rotties are considered sane

) to keep out of minor trouble (he'll just take a magazine or book). We will let him be by himself for up to an hour when we go run errands, he does fine, but for now we prefer to keep his big ass in the crate when we are gone for work or long periods of time (it's also the only place he'll sleep). Google search crate training, you'll be amazed.
We don't keep him outback with the two bitches (Husky and Ratt Terrier) due to them being a bit if a pain in the ass, plus we don't have a 6' privacy fence, yet.
We take him for a 2.5+ mile walk nightly in addition to running him up and down some stairs at the school one block down (I prefer the day, but it's too hot and humid and big black dogs with short snouts overheat very quickly). For the walks, he has his own back pack to carry his own gear. Give a dog a job and they will love you forever. He views his back pack carrying as a job, plus he loves the break in the middle of the walk for some cold, fresh water. The back pack also puts some additional weight on him - this helps tire him out. The key here is "a tired dog is a happy dog". He still has puppy-itis.

Also, we play fetch in the house with his toys, this tires him out as well.
For mental stimulation when we are gone for work (he does sleep most of the time), we have five Kongs and we stuff them with treats and the magic peanut butter solution and then freeze them. These keep him busy for hours on end. Mental stim is crucial, without mental stim, you may be training for aggressiveness, we don't want that with a growing 105 lbs. Rott.
As to when he was a puppy, I had to take him out every 2 hours. I had to set my alarm for every two hours at night and my wife worked it out during the day to take him out. It was a real pain for a few months. With rotties, until a year, they can only hold it for one hour longer than they have been alive - 3 months, they can hold it for 4 hours, etc. He was in a box/crate during these crucial months. Rotties are very clean dogs - they don't care to be near their own $XXX and piss, so when confined to a small place, they tend to really work hard to hold it. This basically potty trains them with literally no effort on our part (other than waking up every two hours

).
BTW, thanks for the email on serc issues!!! Sorry I haven't responded, but we had a funeral process this past week.
Non, as well, let me know if you have any other questions....