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Just found out singer has other band

#41
jmattbassplaya said:
My drummer is in, and this isn't an exaggeration, 9 other bands - some covers, some originals. Her being in another group is beyond OK, so don't get mad over that.

Having said that, her skipping rehearsal for another group is a no-no. She needs to learn how to prioritize both bands. If she can only rehearse at that time for whatever reason then she needs to choose which band she wants to be in, as it isn't fair to you guys if she's skipping practice each week.
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This. Just ask her, politely, to juggle her schedule a little better so that youre not sitting around for 4 weeks with nothing to do.
Anyways, youre in a classic rock coverband, surely you could have been learning more songs with the rest of your band while she isnt there.
 
#42
Interesting comments about people with charts on stands.

I don't really understand that hate. I see people with stands out there all the time. All the time. It's just not a big deal.

Sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't. Depends on how many things are going on at once in my life - and how often
I'm actually out running the material.
 
#43
SBassman said:
Interesting comments about people with charts on stands.

I don't really understand that hate. I see people with stands out there all the time. All the time. It's just not a big deal.

Sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't. Depends on how many things are going on at once in my life - and how often
I'm actually out running the material.
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Yep. The stands and charts aren't the problem. It's when you spend most of the gig actually staring into the charts that it becomes a problem.

Or as our now ex singer did last gig: Get wasted, foul up lyrics, tune and structure even though she had a well organized binder of charts (courtesy of me) right on the stand in front of her.
 
#44
artdrtr said:
Thanks for the advice -- I agree she can do whatever she wants. So can I.
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That doesn't solve any of the problems with your band.

I'm subbing for a gig, but I make our band a priority and feel she has not.
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Feelings got nothing to do with this.

At first, I thought it was her just being a noob and needing more confidence -- now I'm not sure.
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NOT SO SURE? of what? being used and abused? Being left out of the loop and disrespected? Aw, come on! :atoz:

I went out of my way to help her since she is young.
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You ASS-U-MEd to your detriment.

My issue is learning her songs on my time, driving 40 mins to paid rehearsals 1x a week only to sit on my hands for the past month with no practices or gigs.
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You gotta take a stand on something based on something. I mean, she acted all helpless and new-b-ish while she stole your band. Btw, is your guitar player female?

How can you be so mistreated and just "keep playing bass"?

You're all adults in theory but sound like you're all still in high school.
 
#48
I got flack because I play in two bands (band A and band B) and put one of the bands (Band B) on a three week hiatus. The reason? I booked two gigs and then the drummer of Band (A) told me he was unavailable for one of them. I had to scramble to get a different drummer and ended up doing 2-3 rehearsals a week to get everyone up to speed (we had been on a hiatus). It nearly killed me. Drummer from Band A sends me his schedule and I find he's in 5 different bands. So, I sit at home rehearsing and stressing to fill his spot while he's out merrily making money every single weekend. And to make matters worse, I had to call him three times to get his schedule so I could coordinate rehearsals around his other band commitments. Totally unacceptable.

Where do I stand on this? It's wrong to overbook yourself to the point you can't play most of the gigs. Also, a band has to have a lot of gigs to keep the members interested. Your best thing is to get gigs booked that pay well and keep everyone busy -- then they stay. Too bad they would rather join other bands rather than working to make the current band a success by getting gigs. Most people I play with refuse to get gigs, and join other bands. My answer - get subs and push the band-hoppers out of the band if they do it too many times to you. let them be a sub and weep.
 
#49
Mark Kadzielawa of 69 Faces Of Rock recently conducted an interview with legendary vocalist/bassist Glenn Hughes (BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION, DEEP PURPLE, BLACK SABBATH). A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

69 Faces Of Rock: What compromises needed to be made in order to keep [BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION] going?

Hughes: It brings me back to you asking me why we didn't play Chicago last summer. It should've been Chicago, Detroit, and many other Midwestern cities. I can't really hide the fact that if you look at Joe's [Bonamassa, guitar] touring schedule, and if you look at what's going on with Joe. I mean, all I have to do is look at that schedule, and realize there isn't too much time left for BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION to play. He can't really play twice in one city in the same season. Do a show as BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION, and then two months later come back as Joe Bonamassa, or Glenn Hughes. So what Joe is obviously doing, he's taking the Bonamassa route, and you know, I'm really happy for him. But as I said before, my main concern is getting BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION off the ground. I mean, we do really well in Europe. But, my main concern is to get this band off the ground, and my hands are little bit tied if you know what I mean. The beauty of it is. What it's done for me is it has shown people that I'm back in a rock 'n' roll band again, and it's where I should've been for the last twenty years. I mean, I really should've been doing that, but I'm back now, and it's really great. The world is accepting the fact that I put my rock hat back on, and I really love playing rock music.

69 Faces Of Rock: How different is BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION from what you do on your own?

Hughes: Well, for Joe, it's completely different because he plays blues. I think even Joe's next album will be more pure blues. For me it's a little bit different. I may say this to you, that from here on now I've decided I'm going to make rock 'n' roll music, so the line between BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION and Glenn Hughes is very fine, really. I've decided I'm gonna be focused on rock 'n' roll. Whether it's the '70s rock that BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION does, or just really straight-ahead, groove-oriented rock music.

69 Faces Of Rock: Glenn, you were involved with DEEP PURPLE in the past. It was a huge band, but also a band that made several mistakes along the way. What mistakes are you trying to avoid with BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION?

Hughes: We just have to keep everything friendly and honest. For me, the whole thing about being the older guy in the band is that I got to make sure everyone else is on the same page. And I'm a little bit of a control freak, and I am the one that carries the flag for the band. I think you know that. Although, everybody else has got other things to do, BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION is real special, and I really take it to heart! Of course back in the '70s everybody was getting high, lots of women, and lots of drugs, and buzz, and so on. It was a great time, you had ZEPPELIN, SABBATH, PURPLE, WHO, PINK FLOYD, STONES, YES, and all those great British bands. It was a great time for music. I'm sort of one of those survivors of that period. And as you know I'm clean and sober now. The mistakes I've made actually had been life lessons for me. So, I kind of feel responsible for the other members of this band as far as keeping the flag flowing, if you will. As I said to you in the past, it's a very touchy subject for me. If it was my decision only, and I was managing this band, I would have the band out and do 250 shows a year. I'd be doing 50 shows in America alone every year. But unfortunately I'm not that guy who can answer that question. But to all the fans that read this, they need to know that If I had my way we'd be doing mass touring!

69 Faces Of Rock: There is already a talk of the third album being written. How are the new songs coming along?

Hughes: I mean, they're great. I've got pretty much a whole record of songs ready to go. Like I said, I don't really know too much of what's gonna happen in the future. There are rumors that we will make an album this summer. But I'm not too sure. For me, all I wanna do is play live in BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION. We're supposed to go in the studio, but by the time it will come out, I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
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#51
Here's how I see it. Your band is 40 somethings... she's still in her late 20's (still older to try and make it, no spring chicken in the music world) and maybe has fantasies of finding the perfect band to back HER as she strives for fame and fortune.

The fact that she's ditching practice and witholding information about being in another band demonstrates that her first priority is HERSELF.

I don't know what your aspirations are... fame fortune, indie contract, maybe playing local pubs for rowdy crowds, but you need someone who's committed to your band. If this young prima donna starts getting larger crowds she may make the decision for you already and leave your band.

Don't withold information from your drummer, that's what made you mad remember. If I were you, I would cut my losses now. I would sit her down and say, "We've enjoyed having you sing with us, but it seems we can't resolve some issues here. We feel it's best that you go on and pursue other avenues. Thank you for being in our band and good luck."

It may hurt but in the long run, the sooner the better, and you will find a singer who loves what you guys are doing and will commit to your band, and you'll wonder what the fuss was about anyway. And don't let this steam you too bad. It happens all the time. I know your feelings are hurt, but this is business. Do what's best for your band.

And as far as them taking your set list, so what... your band will still do the songs and you'll have your own spin on them, maybe even do them better than the band she's so hot and horny about.

Dump her now and get it over with. Then quit fretting and start posting ads and looking in the papers.... Good luck...

Been there done that, talking from experience...
 
#53
artdrtr said:
Thanks for the advice and letting me vent. It helps to have outside points of view -- gotta love TB! I've stepped back from the ledge and decided to see how practice goes this week (for the first time on a month) and not say anything more. Will be interesting if she brings up the gig since I've only talked to the guitarist who filled in with her about it. If so, I hope it doesn't turn into a bragfest on how great the gig was. I've decided not to tell the drummer -- knowing him, that would totally divide the band into two camps. Just gonna shut my mouth and be the bass player.
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This is entirely the wrong way to handle it.

If you don't bring it up, and they don't bring it up--what next? You wait for the next time it happens (there's always a next time--especially if the last gig was amazing) and start another thread?
 

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