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Just opened up my 210MBE...

#381
mcapote said:
you know I never even thought of that. I have about 10 yards of vinyl sitting here from old fiberglassing projects, I think ima break out my wife's sewing machine and make a cover for my MB210
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Yeah, there is lots of stuff there to make cab covers with; one time my wife made me a cover out of black canvas that was on a blowout table there.
 
#385
I had a 210MBE from GC back in december. It was a "used" like new one from the website. It had a TERRIBLE rattle that I found out was the speaker wire touching the cone while playing. This could have been easily remedied, but I didn't like the overall boominess of the cab so I just sent it back. I know it's a dead horse but I'm on the bracing and batting boat.
 
#387
I didn't realize there were so many expert cab builders here on this site , and if you are so good at building a cabinet then just build your own. or you can do the simple thing and just turn down the bass control.I have been using my mb212 for a year now with no issues , it is a little boomy , but if I turn down the bass control there is no issue, and I doubt you can find something in the same price range that is any better.
 
#388
and if you really want to go crazy with bracing and so on a good place to start is looking at how a ACME bass cab is made , they have more experience with cabs made out of 1/2 inch material than anyone , they actually push the bracing so tight that it force's the cabs sides out which in turn tunes the cab for a better resonate frequency.
 
#389
johnnybass01 said:
I didn't realize there were so many expert cab builders here on this site , and if you are so good at building a cabinet then just build your own. or you can do the simple thing and just turn down the bass control.I have been using my mb212 for a year now with no issues , it is a little boomy , but if I turn down the bass control there is no issue, and I doubt you can find something in the same price range that is any better.
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Many of us did build our own cabs. Thus having so many people on the site that know when somethings mis-designed, or poorly constructed. The thing that's troublesome is that for a few pennies and just a few moments on the production line, that cab could be less boomy and more balanced.
 
#392
johnnybass01 said:
So what your telling me is that the GK engineering department is just cutting corners.basically what they did in my opinion is built what the mass's asked for a Lightweight inexpensive bass combo .
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For maybe a what would literally amount to a dollar or two per cab they could have had a better product that people wouldn't have to defend the boominess as 'character'.

Its almost never the engineering department that cuts corners. It tends to be the department that lines up numbers and counts them in rows.
 
#395
BurningSkies said:
For maybe a what would literally amount to a dollar or two per cab they could have had a better product that people wouldn't have to defend the boominess as 'character'.

Its almost never the engineering department that cuts corners. It tends to be the department that lines up numbers and counts them in rows.
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I have spoken to the "engineering department" (Bob Gallien) on this topic, and despite statements to the contrary, Bob says it was not an economic factor at all (and that the added cost of adding batting material is insignificant). In fact, they had made up a number of prototypes using a variety of batting materials, different amounts of batting, etc. And in their hands-on listening tests, the cabs with no batting sounded the best to them.

While I agree that this decision does seem to defy some long-established "best engineering practices", I will say that my GK gear sounds pretty darned good to my ear, too, and I trust that Bob Gallien knows a thing or two about how to design great bass gear.

Tom.
 
#396
I gave a MB210 and tried the batting experiment back in December. I followed the advice of fellow TBers, but pulled it out after s short time because I didn't like what I heard. It seemed like all the tone had been choked out if it. Kind of lifeless...like an Adam Sandler movie. It sounds a lot better in it's original state.
 
#398
iabssplyr said:
I gave a MB210 and tried the batting experiment back in December. I followed the advice of fellow TBers, but pulled it out after s short time because I didn't like what I heard. It seemed like all the tone had been choked out if it. Kind of lifeless...like an Adam Sandler movie. It sounds a lot better in it's original state.
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Didn't you use a super thick and dense memory foam mattress pad, against my recommendations? Or am I thinking of someone else?
 
#399
A few points that may help those with the MB210;

I find that reducing the amount of boost and bass dramatically reduces the amount of boominess, I use my amp with the bass only on about 1/8 turn from zero and the boost no more than half at the very most, I still get a good tone .

I find that having my MBE115 ext cab has really improved the sound of the amp by reducing the need to have the amp turned up higher to compete with my band, it is running at much lower output so less boominess .

I have lined my amp and ext cab and it is marginally better IMO .

I had a speaker wire causing a rattle which was actually my fault as it only happened after I refitted a speaker after doing the lining work .

The MBE115 does have what to me looks like very good bracing .

I have to say I really like my GK MB210 rig, very pleased with it and have saved a lot of money by not going to the chiropractor :D, thanks to Bob Gallien, its not easy to please everyone:) .
 
#400
I have just got in from rehearsal and have definitely found the MB210s sweet spot, we were in a much bigger room than usual so I had to give it 2`0`clock, 12 and 3 on the gain, boost and master respectively, the band is getting louder now so I had to crank the amp up, I kept the bass EQ right down to 7`o`clock and the others to 12, I played my Ibanez BTB770 and the sound was spot on, the active EQ on the Ibanez is great for making adjustments for certain songs, there was not the slightest hint of boominess even at tonights levels, therein lies the answer to getting the best out of the MB210, keep that bass EQ right down low and be careful with the boost :hyper::bassist:
 

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